Re: [gecko]Underwoo...Nephr...wait...D'oh!

2003-07-23 Thread CrgMess
Nathan,
Along with Underwoodisaurus/Nephrurus taxonomy one could include the Geckonia/Tarantola chazaliae as well.
Craig


RE: [gecko]John Boone article

2003-07-23 Thread Nest verch Tangwistel
Or possibly scan a copy of the picture into the photo section. I too am
only seeing Julia Roberts around here. I would love to see the picture
everyone is talking about.

Tanya
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 looking all over my town, and all the issues of People on the stands
 have 
 Julia Roberts on the cover and no Jon Boone!
 
 -Karin
 
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Re: [gecko]Bloody feces

2003-07-23 Thread Julie Bergman




Yup! Thanks Barbie!

Julie B.


Barbie Heid wrote:

   
  
  
I would venture to guess that this gecko not only has everted hemipenes 
but part of his digestive tract (forget the name for this, help me 
gexers!) also likely came out.  

  
  
Prolapsed rectum?

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Re: [gecko]Underwoo...Nephr...wait...D'oh!

2003-07-23 Thread Nathan Hall
Ron,

I am aware that the names have been synonymous for well over a decade and
putting this species in the Nephrurus complex makes complete sense, but I
too liked Underwoodisaurus.  Thanks  for the response.


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 Nathan,
 Underwoodisaurus has been considered a synonym of Nephurus since the
 early 90's. I believe Dr. Aaron Bauer changed it. The only person that
uses it
 still is Dr. Cogger in his Australian Herpetology books. I think it should
be
 stable because a group of Australian scientists used Nephurus and not
 Underwoodisaurus in a recent paper on Australian geckos. I kind of liked
Underwoodisaurus
 because it was a name in honor of Garth Underwood a British Herpetologist
who
 made a number of significant contributions to herpetology, especially
geckos.
 He is the one responsible for the use of Cyrtodactylus instead of
 Gymnodactylus. All of the popular North American Herpetology science
journals have a
 fascinating biography of Dr. Underwood, if anyone is interested.

 Ron Van Heest
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Re: [gecko]Bloody feces

2003-07-23 Thread Julie Bergman




Good deal Mike, I hope he recovers!

Julie B.

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  Thanks all.

I took him to the vet this morning. I don't know how much of the vet's info I liked but this was the basics of it:

The gecko has parasites. He gave me a suspension that should kill two of the major baddies (I'll give the medication name if you are interested). He told me evolutionarily speaking, the geckos get bloody poop and they either recover or don't. "Survival of the fittest" separates the stronger from the weak but people like to treat our pets to keep them alive.

The gecko doesn't have an everted rectum but he has a "tiny" bit of everted hemipenes. I am to cover them with Vaseline to keep them moist so he can pull them back in. They have dried nubs on the ends but he said these will slough off as long as I keep the hemipenes moist and clean. They really are mostly inside his tail.

He's soaking in sugar-water again and will be until I get home in 4 hours. I have someone looking in on him so he doesn't drown (but I'm sure he's not stupid enough to drop his head into the 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water).

He'll be okay. Spiders are tough!

Mike

  
  
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  Yup! Thanks Barbie!

  

Can't remember what I had for breakfast, but can't think on a dime about a
herp's butt :)

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Re: [gecko]Bloody feces

2003-07-23 Thread ElizabethFreer
Mike,

Your update, post vet visit, to the list is most informative. Just wondering, why the soak now and not vaseline since you have already visited the vet? Be sure someone keeps an eye on your spider, cuz he's not up to snuff right now and we surely don't want him to drown. Hope that he's staying warm enough.

Elizabeth

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Thanks all.

I took him to the vet this morning. I don't know how much of the vet's info I liked but this was the basics of it:

The gecko has parasites. He gave me a suspension that should kill two of the major baddies (I'll give the medication name if you are interested). He told me evolutionarily speaking, the geckos get bloody poop and they either recover or don't. "Survival of the fittest" separates the stronger from the weak but people like to treat our pets to keep them alive.

The gecko doesn't have an everted rectum but he has a "tiny" bit of everted hemipenes. I am to cover them with Vaseline to keep them moist so he can pull them back in. They have dried nubs on the ends but he said these will slough off as long as I keep the hemipenes moist and clean. They really are mostly inside his tail.

He's soaking in sugar-water again and will be until I get home in 4 hours. I have someone looking in on him so he doesn't drown (but I'm sure he's not stupid enough to drop his head into the 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water).

He'll be okay. Spiders are tough!

Mike

 
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 Date: 2003/07/23 Wed PM 12:30:23 EDT
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  Yup! Thanks Barbie!
 
 
 Can't remember what I had for breakfast, but can't think on a dime about a
 herp's butt :)
 
 Barbie ^,,^
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Re: Re: [gecko]Bloody feces

2003-07-23 Thread oyarsa
Hi there. The only reason he is soaking now is that he had a little bit of dried 
urates stuck to his cloaca (males have this, too, right?). Just to be sure the area 
was clean the vet told me to soak him. He's actually in the terrarium in an open 
Tupperware container to keep warm. Anyway, the water will moisturize his bottom for 
when I put the Vaseline on this evening.

Just like a little baby with diaper-rash!  ;-)

Mike


 
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 Subject: Re: [gecko]Bloody feces
 
 Mike,
 
 Your update, post vet visit, to the list is most informative.  Just 
 wondering, why the soak now and not vaseline since you have already visited the vet? 
  
 Be sure someone keeps an eye on your spider, cuz he's not up to snuff right now 
 and we surely don't want him to drown.  Hope that he's staying warm enough.
 
 Elizabeth
 
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  Thanks all.
  
  I took him to the vet this morning. I don't know how much of the vet's info 
  I liked but this was the basics of it:
  
  The gecko has parasites. He gave me a suspension that should kill two of the 
  major baddies (I'll give the medication name if you are interested). He told 
  me evolutionarily speaking, the geckos get bloody poop and they either 
  recover or don't. Survival of the fittest separates the stronger from the weak 
  but people like to treat our pets to keep them alive.
  
  The gecko doesn't have an everted rectum but he has a tiny bit of everted 
  hemipenes. I am to cover them with Vaseline to keep them moist so he can pull 
  them back in. They have dried nubs on the ends but he said these will slough 
  off as long as I keep the hemipenes moist and clean. They really are mostly 
  inside his tail.
  
  He's soaking in sugar-water again and will be until I get home in 4 hours. I 
  have someone looking in on him so he doesn't drown (but I'm sure he's not 
  stupid enough to drop his head into the 1/4 - 1/2 inch of water).
  
  He'll be okay. Spiders are tough!
  
  Mike
  
   
   From: Barbie Heid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2003/07/23 Wed PM 12:30:23 EDT
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Yup! Thanks Barbie!
   
   
   Can't remember what I had for breakfast, but can't think on a dime about a
   herp's butt :)
   
   Barbie ^,,^
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