gEDA-user: Greetings from Fritzing

2009-01-22 Thread Brendan Howell
Hello gEDAns, I am one of the developers of Fritzing, a simple FLOSS EDA made for less technical (non-engineer) users. Our project is young but we have been posting frequent releases since November. I am also a gEDA user since 2005. I want to thank all the developers for producing such a

Re: gEDA-user: Greetings from Fritzing

2009-01-22 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi -- I am one of the developers of Fritzing, a simple FLOSS EDA made for less technical (non-engineer) users. Our project is young but we have been posting frequent releases since November. Yeah, we're aware of the project. I pestered you guys about a year ago to get invovled with gEDA.

gEDA-user: manage changes

2009-01-22 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I previously generated a pcb board. then, I had to make a lot of changes. So, I copy the previous .sch files into new ones, and created a new project with the new files. Now, when I generated the new pcb (gsch2pcb) I lost all the benefits of my previous pcb (I mean, I need to restart form

gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread Bob Paddock
Anyone have any insights on getting PCB to print some check plots, under Windows? Standard PCB print makes the assumption that 'lpr' is available, which is not the case on Windows. Anyone already been down this road before I dig into trying to find a solution?

Re: gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread John Griessen
Bob Paddock wrote: Standard PCB print makes the assumption that 'lpr' is available, which is not the case on Windows. Anyone already been down this road before I dig into trying to find a solution? I haven't done that exactly, but how about printing to .ps, converting to pdf, the

Re: gEDA-user: manage changes

2009-01-22 Thread John Griessen
Patrick Dupre wrote: when I generated the new pcb (gsch2pcb) I lost all the benefits of my previous pcb (I mean, I need to restart form scratch). How can I generated the new.pcb file including my changes The refdes and footprint has to match, or else it is thrown out by gsch2pcb. So you can

Re: gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread Bob Paddock
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:25 AM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: Bob Paddock wrote: Standard PCB print makes the assumption that 'lpr' is available, which is not the case on Windows. Anyone already been down this road before I dig into trying to find a solution? I haven't done

gEDA-user: Question about footprints in pcb

2009-01-22 Thread Rob Butts
I'm a little unclear about the mask dotted line of the pad command. In the How to Create Footprints document it says this value is the width of the solder mask relief. Is this value the distance from the pad location line to the center of the clearance measurement? If I double

Re: gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread DJ Delorie
Not sure that you can use the Printer Calibration settings that way? I'm trying to get a real 1:1 size. You should be able to, calibrating uses the same HID as printing. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Question about footprints in pcb

2009-01-22 Thread DJ Delorie
I'm a little unclear about the mask dotted line of the pad command. The solder mask size is specified as its own width, just like the copper pad's size is its own width. I'm also wondering why the distance from the pad to other conductors on any plane (the clearance) is the clearance value

gEDA-user: gnucap questions

2009-01-22 Thread John Griessen
I've made a little library of devices with IO pins with pin labels p and n. I get a netlist with pin numbers 1 and 2. I also have model files with same first part as placed devices then a .va extension -- cap-va.va I'm thinking of changing to p and n pin numbers. Any other suggestions

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap questions

2009-01-22 Thread al davis
On Thursday 22 January 2009, John Griessen wrote: I've made a little library of devices with IO pins with pin labels p and n. I get a netlist with pin numbers 1 and 2. I also have model files with same first part as placed devices then a .va extension -- cap-va.va I'm thinking of

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread Brendan Howell
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 11:26 -0500, geda-user-requ...@moria.seul.org wrote: I am one of the developers of Fritzing, a simple FLOSS EDA made for less technical (non-engineer) users. Our project is young but we have been posting frequent releases since November. Yeah, we're aware of the

gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi -- One thing. Fritzing's close tie-in with Eagle is, um, out of tune for an open-source/open-hardware project IMO. But that's not my decision to make, and we're happy to see you guys are contacting us (a real open-source EDA project). I agree with you. Since our summer

Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread John Luciani
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Brendan Howell bren...@howell-ersatz.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 11:26 -0500, geda-user-requ...@moria.seul.org So... Is the footprint structure documented anywhere? (I admit I haven't looked.) Docs... heh. Who has time for docs? Actually, I should

Re: gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread DJ Delorie
*chuckle* Right now, PCB doesn't quite support single sided boards. (Stuart waits for others to explain how he is wrong again) Since you insist... There's no such thing as a one-sided board. Boards always have at least two sides, unless you've invented a mobius pcb. Therefore, pcb

Re: gEDA-user: Greetings from Fritzing

2009-01-22 Thread Dave N6NZ
Brendan Howell wrote: Hello gEDAns, I am one of the developers of Fritzing, a simple FLOSS EDA made for less technical (non-engineer) users. Great! There is a need for this. I am active in the Homebrew Robotics club of Silicon Valley, and many people walk in with very limited

Re: gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: *chuckle* Right now, PCB doesn't quite support single sided boards. (Stuart waits for others to explain how he is wrong again) Since you insist... There's no such thing as a one-sided board. Boards always have at least two sides, unless you've invented a mobius

Re: gEDA-user: pcb bug: EPS output omits pads

2009-01-22 Thread Windell H. Oskay
pcb -x eps \ --element-color '#ff' \ --pin-color '#00' \ --layer-color-1 '#ff' \ --as-shown \ --layer-stack 0,elements,pins \ --eps-file testprint.eps \

Re: gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread John Griessen
So... Is the footprint structure documented anywhere? (I admit I haven't looked.) Docs... heh. Who has time for docs? Actually, I should work on that. If you guys are interested, then I will try to put something on our web site explaining the SVG formatting. Basically, all the paths

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap questions

2009-01-22 Thread John Griessen
al davis wrote: the netlister should put statements on one line for readability. OK. I'll look at the scheme code for that. Other than that ... module verilog_io ( GND , C , A ); /* Port directions begin here */ inout GND ; inout C ; inout A ;

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap questions

2009-01-22 Thread r
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: Gnucap verilog mode doesn't yet accept statements split across lines. That will be fixed. Even when that is fixed,I still think the netlister should put statements on one line for readability. Does Gnucap use any

gEDA-user: launcher for gschem quit working suddenly

2009-01-22 Thread Gary L. Roach
This is really wierd. I use Debian Linux with a KDE desktop. I have had a launcher icon for gschem on the desktop for months. I was trying to get the !...@#$% rc files straightened out so that pcb and gnetlist would work properly when suddenly the launcher quit. If I use it, the loading icon

Re: gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread Bob Paddock
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Not sure that you can use the Printer Calibration settings that way? I'm trying to get a real 1:1 size. You should be able to, calibrating uses the same HID as printing. How do you get the calibration page to print? There

Re: gEDA-user: launcher for gschem quit working suddenly

2009-01-22 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Thursday 22 January 2009 22:50:40 Gary L. Roach wrote: This is really wierd. I use Debian Linux with a KDE desktop. I have had a launcher icon for gschem on the desktop for months. I was trying to get the !...@#$% rc files straightened out so that pcb and gnetlist would work properly when

Re: gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread DJ Delorie
How do you get the calibration page to print? There is no PostScript output option for that. Calibration request takes you directly to lpr. Ok, that will slow you down a bit :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: PCB printing under Windows?

2009-01-22 Thread DJ Delorie
How do you get the calibration page to print? There is no PostScript output option for that. Calibration request takes you directly to lpr. Change the lprcommand to cat /tmp/foo.ps ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread Steve Meier
This reminds me of two facts of saturation magnetic recording on rotating (disc) media. You can only have an even number of transitions around a track. Also, as much as test engineers would like to both surfaces have to be spun at the same rpm. On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 13:02 -0500, DJ Delorie

Re: gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread John Doty
On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:02 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: There's no such thing as a one-sided board. Boards always have at least two sides, unless you've invented a mobius pcb. Spherical ;-) John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com

Re: gEDA-user: Fritzing was: Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 92

2009-01-22 Thread John Griessen
John Doty wrote: On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:02 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: There's no such thing as a one-sided board. Boards always have at least two sides, unless you've invented a mobius pcb. Spherical ;-) What ever happened to Ball Semiconductor? John G -- Ecosensory Austin TX

Re: gEDA-user: pcb bug: EPS output omits pads

2009-01-22 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:51:43 -0500, Windell H. Oskay wrote: Since this is considerably different from what would be expected by a reasonable observer, I would indeed classify it as a bug-- either in the function executed or in the label, because it cannot generate an eps as shown. Ack. The

gEDA-user: gerbv-2.2.0

2009-01-22 Thread Dan McMahill
Hello, There is a new release of gerbv available. The sources and also a windows installer may be found from the download section on the sourceforge project page which is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/gerbv/ As usual please report bugs in the sourceforge bug tracker. -Dan