Re: gEDA-user: Signal Source Setup for Electric Guitar?

2009-05-13 Thread Gareth Edwards
2009/5/12 Joerg joerg...@analogconsultants.com For guitar pickup modelling, you might like to do a bit of Googling on spice model guitar pickup or similar. Yes, that is a very interesting page. This is precisely the kind of thing I'm interested in. I had no idea the capacitance of the

Re: gEDA-user: Signal Source Setup for Electric Guitar?

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Fierman
Quick tip on your schematic: it's a good idea to offset 4 wire junctions (C1, R1, R2 Q1b) so that they appear as two pairs of 3 wire junctions. That way even if the junction dot disappears in a .png or .pdf or whatever, it is obvious that the 4 wires are all joined and it's not just 2 wires

gEDA-user: naming and creation of 54-pin TSOP II (400 mil) footprint, request for help

2009-05-13 Thread Jelle de Jong
Hello everybody, I am trying to create a footprint with a correct name using the IPC-7351 Naming Convention for Standard SMT Land Patterns. But I am having some issues, i am using the below document to learn about the naming convention:

Re: gEDA-user: naming and creation of 54-pin TSOP II (400 mil) footprint, request for help

2009-05-13 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:45 +0200, Jelle de Jong wrote: Could somebody help me out by making an example for the 54-pin TSOP II footprint? I can not open your linked PDF documents, I get security warnings like this: secure.powercraft.nl uses an invalid security certificate. The

Re: gEDA-user: naming and creation of 54-pin TSOP II (400 mil) footprint, request for help

2009-05-13 Thread Jelle de Jong
Jelle de Jong wrote: Hello everybody, I am trying to create a footprint with a correct name using the IPC-7351 Naming Convention for Standard SMT Land Patterns. But I am having some issues, i am using the below document to learn about the naming convention:

gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Stefan Salewski
Someone asked how one can build PCB boards like this: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/137821#new (Click on the picture too enlarge) This layout may have advantages if PCB is made mechanical, i.e. by milling machines. So I asked myself is current PCB can do it -- I guess not, but I may be

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Fierman
Interesting idea. Looks like it's a single (maybe double) sided through hole PCB. Probably only a low frequency board. I can see this may have some advantages for high current and therefore maybe switch mode PSU's but it may only have limited use for the following reasons: i) All tracks have

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread John Griessen
Stefan Salewski wrote: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/50837/Beispiel.jpg This layout may have advantages if PCB is made mechanical, i.e. by milling machines. That kind of layout has etchant cost minimization as advantage also. John

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Bill Gatliff
Andy Fierman wrote: Could open a whole new topological discussion on auto routers though :) I don't know how you could automate the boundary descriptions, but once you had that then it looks like a basic flood-fill... b.g. -- Bill Gatliff b...@billgatliff.com

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Joerg
Bill Gatliff wrote: Andy Fierman wrote: Could open a whole new topological discussion on auto routers though :) I don't know how you could automate the boundary descriptions, but once you had that then it looks like a basic flood-fill... Typically this isn't done fully automated. One

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-13 Thread Brendan Howell
Hi gEDAns, I'm one of the developers of Fritzing. I know I'm coming to this thread rather late but I have a few comments and clarifications... First, I think some of the initial debate and criticism was based on looking at our old (archive.fritzing.org) web site that had a bunch of early

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread John Luciani
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Stefan Salewski [1]m...@ssalewski.de wrote: Someone asked how one can build PCB boards like this: [2]http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/137821#new (Click on the picture too enlarge) This layout may have advantages if PCB is made

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Kovács Levente
Joerg írta: Bill Gatliff wrote: Andy Fierman wrote: Could open a whole new topological discussion on auto routers though :) I don't know how you could automate the boundary descriptions, but once you had that then it looks like a basic flood-fill... Typically this isn't done fully

Re: gEDA-user: Deafult gap between copper pin/pad and resist

2009-05-13 Thread Kovács Levente
Kai-Martin Knaak írta: On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:52:04 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Note that you can change PCB's internal default by changing MASKFRAME in the top-level globalconst.h. Setting must be done at compile time, is it ? That default, yes. Would it be difficult to add this to the

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Joerg
Kovács Levente wrote: Joerg írta: Bill Gatliff wrote: Andy Fierman wrote: Could open a whole new topological discussion on auto routers though :) I don't know how you could automate the boundary descriptions, but once you had that then it looks like a basic flood-fill... Typically

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-13 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Brendan Howell wrote: for expediency we hacked up a quick output to Eagle. I saw that, opened mouth too soon. While the demo was cool, it quickly turned into an unpleasant experience for coders as we reached the limitations of the GUI framework (not to mention the

Re: gEDA-user: Signal Source Setup for Electric Guitar?

2009-05-13 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Joerg joerg...@analogconsultants.com wrote: Michael B Allen wrote: Anyway it looks like their AC generator is using 2mV. So the 20mV value I used to get a good output SIN looks closer to reality which means my model is probably ok. I wish I had a real

gEDA-user: geda cygwin package

2009-05-13 Thread Peter Baxendale
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:31 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: I'd love to point my coworkers to a place where they can get everything they need to install gschem/pcb in a windows context. If web space is an issue, I may dedicate bandwidth either on my private website or at the university of

Re: gEDA-user: A not too serious PCB question

2009-05-13 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 04:16:26PM +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: Someone asked how one can build PCB boards like this: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/137821#new (Click on the picture too enlarge) This layout may have advantages if PCB is made mechanical, i.e. by milling machines.

Re: gEDA-user: geda cygwin package

2009-05-13 Thread David C. Kerber
I could offer up space on my personal web site as well. Only 2Mbps ougoing BW, but there's no monthly limit so if only one or two people are hitting it at a time, it would probably suffice. Dave -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Deafult gap between copper pin/pad and resist

2009-05-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:41:54 +0200, Kovács Levente wrote: You can change the mask size after you convert the footprint, of course. With the GUI? How? 1) activate tht display of the mask 2) let the mouse float above the pin 3) type [k] several times to increase mask clearance 3a) type

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-13 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 19:14:26 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: PS: I use gEDA on cygwin.  I have a cygwin mirror at work, and I made a cygwin package for gEDA, as well as making a modified cygwin installer so that coworkers

Re: gEDA-user: geda cygwin package

2009-05-13 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Peter Baxendale wrote: I routinely package up cygwin with built gEDA cygwin executables once a year for our Windows users here. Because it's once a year it gets a bit out of date, but I'd be happy to make it available to anyone interested. It has a readme to tell you

Re: gEDA-user: geda cygwin package

2009-05-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:32:37 +0100, Peter Baxendale wrote: I routinely package up cygwin with built gEDA cygwin executables once a year for our Windows users here. Because it's once a year it gets a bit out of date, but I'd be happy to make it available to anyone interested. It has a readme

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-13 Thread John Doty
On May 13, 2009, at 10:27 AM, al davis wrote: A while back I made a proposal for a file interchange system that is neutral in the sense that it is not tied to any particular target. It's based on the structural subset of Verilog. But that's essentially a netlist format. It's already easy

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-13 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, John Doty wrote: The graphics problem is 1000x harder, but gets almost no mention in your proposal. The intent is not to translate the symbols themselves, any more than moving between text markup formats translates fonts. My proposal does consider placement, which

gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Tamas Szabo
Hi, Maybe off-topic a bit... I just recieved an Avnet Spartan-3A Evaluation Kit. It has the above mentioned interface for downloading configuration. I only found Win based software for it. Has anyone any experience with it under Linux? Thanks, /sza2

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Eric Brombaugh
Tamas Szabo wrote: I just recieved an Avnet Spartan-3A Evaluation Kit. It has the above mentioned interface for downloading configuration. I only found Win based software for it. Has anyone any experience with it under Linux? I did some work with PSoC a few years ago and wasn't able to

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:03 -0700, Eric Brombaugh wrote: Since their development IDE is Win-only I didn't see much point in pursuing it further. Maybe my understanding of your comment is wrong, but to make it clear: Xilinx FPGA development tools called WebPack are available free of costs for

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Eric Brombaugh
Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:03 -0700, Eric Brombaugh wrote: Since their development IDE is Win-only I didn't see much point in pursuing it further. Maybe my understanding of your comment is wrong, but to make it clear: Xilinx FPGA development tools called WebPack are

gEDA-user: geda cygwin package (Re: geda-user Digest, Vol 36, Issue 35)

2009-05-13 Thread Robas, Teodor
Subject: Re: gEDA-user: geda cygwin package From: David C. Kerber [1]dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:08:07 -0400 To: gEDA user mailing list [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Tamas Szabo
DJ Delorie wrote: I have not already used their WebPack for Linux, but I am sure it works. I use WebPack for Linux, it works just fine. Although, I don't use any of their programming cables. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Chris Smith
Eric Brombaugh wrote: I also use Xilinx ISE (both full-blown and Webpack) under Linux with no difficulties. I've used that too, and it's a great source of irritation and amazement to me that they manage to produce a 1.4GB install file to program a device the size of a postage stamp! :( or

gEDA-user: translation standards (was: fritzing )

2009-05-13 Thread John Griessen
al davis wrote: My proposal does consider placement, which should be enough. It is essentially a netlist format. That's the idea. How about having a netlist format that holds footprint center, plus pad/pin centers that are defined as center of main part of a pad and center of hole circles,

Re: gEDA-user: translation standards (was: fritzing )

2009-05-13 Thread Steve Meier
I believe the electronics industry has already centered on the PADs ASCII file format which has the netlist, components, foor print's, layers, lines, vias etc. I have bumped into pcb and assembly shop requests for this a few times where they use the information for programming their pick and

Re: gEDA-user: translation standards

2009-05-13 Thread John Griessen
John Doty wrote: On May 13, 2009, at 3:01 PM, John Griessen wrote: al davis wrote: pad/pin centers that are defined as center of main part of a pad and center of hole circles, and also pad numbers? Remember that Al's vision includes schematic translation. I have not read his starting

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Eric Brombaugh
Chris Smith wrote: Eric Brombaugh wrote: I also use Xilinx ISE (both full-blown and Webpack) under Linux with no difficulties. I've used that too, and it's a great source of irritation and amazement to me that they manage to produce a 1.4GB install file to program a device the size of a

Re: gEDA-user: translation standards (was: fritzing )

2009-05-13 Thread John Doty
On May 13, 2009, at 3:01 PM, John Griessen wrote: al davis wrote: My proposal does consider placement, which should be enough. It is essentially a netlist format. That's the idea. How about having a netlist format that holds footprint center, plus pad/pin centers that are defined as

Re: gEDA-user: naming and creation of 54-pin TSOP II (400 mil) footprint, request for help

2009-05-13 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Jelle, On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:45 +0200, Jelle de Jong wrote: Hello everybody, I am trying to create a footprint with a correct name using the IPC-7351 Naming Convention for Standard SMT Land Patterns. But I am having some issues, i am using the below document to learn about the

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 15:41 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: I have not already used their WebPack for Linux, but I am sure it works. I use WebPack for Linux, it works just fine. Although, I don't use any of their programming cables. Don't touch their drivers with a barge pole.. use these:

Re: gEDA-user: Cypress PSoC MiniProg under Linux

2009-05-13 Thread DJ Delorie
I use WebPack for Linux, it works just fine. Although, I don't use any of their programming cables. Don't touch their drivers with a barge pole.. use these: I said *cables* so of course none of the standard drivers would work for me anyway. I write my own.

Re: gEDA-user: translation standards (was: fritzing )

2009-05-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 13 May 2009 14:12:52 -0700, Steve Meier wrote: I believe the electronics industry has already centered on the PADs ASCII file format which has the netlist, components, foor print's, layers, lines, vias etc. Is this standard open in any way? That is, can it be read without signing a

Re: gEDA-user: translation standards

2009-05-13 Thread Joerg
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009 14:12:52 -0700, Steve Meier wrote: I believe the electronics industry has already centered on the PADs ASCII file format which has the netlist, components, foor print's, layers, lines, vias etc. Is this standard open in any way? That is, can

Re: gEDA-user: fritzing

2009-05-13 Thread John Griessen
Brendan Howell wrote: Hi gEDAns, We looked at easily a dozen different GUI frameworks before chosing Qt. We don't really see Fritzing as competing with the other open source/free EDA tools. Our target audience is largely hobbyists, students, designers and artists: essentially,