Re: gEDA-user: How do I change initial window size on gschem and pcb?

2010-04-07 Thread Atommann
Hi, 2010/4/7 Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net: This may be an X-windows-on-Mac question, not a gEDA question, but... When gschem or pcb open on my macbook, the window is too tall, and the resize grabber is off the screen on the bottom and I can't reach it to resize the window.  Normally, not an

Re: gEDA-user: paid help?

2010-04-07 Thread Kovacs Levente
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:36:33 -0700 Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net wrote: Of course, you are asking about something different it seems, not a generator, but a parametric tweaker all masks shall now have offset X -- which is suppose could be handy, but I just regenerate the footprint with different

Re: gEDA-user: How do I change initial window size on gschem and pcb?

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 14:23 +0800, Atommann wrote: Hi, 2010/4/7 Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net: This may be an X-windows-on-Mac question, not a gEDA question, but... When gschem or pcb open on my macbook, the window is too tall, and the resize grabber is off the screen on the bottom and I

Re: gEDA-user: How do I change initial window size on gschem and pcb?

2010-04-07 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 14:23 +0800, Atommann wrote: Hi, 2010/4/7 Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net: This may be an X-windows-on-Mac question, not a gEDA question, but... When gschem or pcb open on my macbook, the window is too tall, and the resize

Re: gEDA-user: paid help?

2010-04-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:43 +0900, timecop wrote: I would never trust pre-made symbols for any project, it takes very Similar for me, and I do not trust my own symbols also! And I have to admit that I do not really trust the linux kernel, my web browser and email client, ... Maybe I should try

Re: gEDA-user: paid help?

2010-04-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 01:21 +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote: Is there any non-interactive footprint editor around? Like a perl script which I do not know an editor, but there are non interactive generators like footgen and my sfg -- for sfg you can set mask offset and clearance very easy, and if

Re: gEDA-user: paid help?

2010-04-07 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:43 +0900, timecop wrote: I would never trust pre-made symbols for any project, it takes very Similar for me, and I do not trust my own symbols also! True enough. The only time I have been badly burned is when

gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hawkins
Hi, Obviously gschem is intended for electric circuits, but has anyone used it for hydraulic schematics? The hydraulics industry has defined a fairly rich schematic language [1][2] for describing hydraulic and pneumatic systems. I didn't find a gschem hydraulic symbol library, so I'm attempting

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi -- Obviously gschem is intended for electric circuits, but has anyone used it for hydraulic schematics? The hydraulics industry has defined a fairly rich schematic language [1][2] for describing hydraulic and pneumatic systems. I didn't find a gschem hydraulic symbol library, so I'm

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hawkins
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Stuart Brorson s...@cloud9.net wrote: Hi -- Obviously gschem is intended for electric circuits, but has anyone used it for hydraulic schematics?  The hydraulics industry has defined a fairly rich schematic language [1][2] for describing hydraulic and

gEDA-user: How do I reference a shell variable from guile script?

2010-04-07 Thread Dave N6NZ
Suppose I want to build a path like: $HOME/path/gedasymbols to pick up component libraries, without unrolling $HOME into a hard path in a (define..) -- how do I get guile to pick up the value of $HOME from the shell, and then get it pasted into the rest of the stuff? I'm aiming for: (define

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Stuart Brorson wrote: Do you foresee any other difficulties? ... aside from simulating a hydraulic circuit with spice or generating a layout. Actually, my first thought was: What kinds of simulations (if any) does one do in hydraulics? Are there any

Re: gEDA-user: How do I reference a shell variable from guile script?

2010-04-07 Thread John Doty
On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Suppose I want to build a path like: $HOME/path/gedasymbols to pick up component libraries, without unrolling $HOME into a hard path in a (define..) -- how do I get guile to pick up the value of $HOME from the shell, and then get it pasted

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Bob Paddock
If you look at some hydraulic schematics, you'll see a rich duality between electric and hydraulic circuits.  For example, the pressure drop across an orifice is analogous to the voltage drop across a resistor.  Hydraulic power is pressure * flow (i.e. V * I).

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread John Doty
On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:54 AM, al davis wrote: On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Stuart Brorson wrote: Do you foresee any other difficulties? ... aside from simulating a hydraulic circuit with spice or generating a layout. Actually, my first thought was: What kinds of simulations (if any) does

Re: gEDA-user: How do I reference a shell variable from guile script?

2010-04-07 Thread Dave N6NZ
On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:05 AM, John Doty wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote: Suppose I want to build a path like: $HOME/path/gedasymbols to pick up component libraries, without unrolling $HOME into a hard path in a (define..) -- how do I get guile to pick up the value of

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Bob, Do not discuss patents here please ! This is highly contageous and attracts law suits. Without the mentioning of patents the general idea would have come across as well. Kind regards, Bert Timmerman. -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Bert Timmerman wrote: Do not discuss patents here please ! This is highly contageous and attracts law suits. Without the mentioning of patents the general idea would have come across as well. Oh good heavens. Mentioning the existence of a patent, and

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread DJ Delorie
Oh good heavens. Mentioning the existence of a patent, and suggesting it as good reading because it contains interesting and geeky science stuff, attracts LAWSUITS? Regardless, I would also say do not discuss patents here, for various (legal and otherwise) reasons.

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Bert Timmerman wrote: Do not discuss patents here please ! Did you notice the date? (1934) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Ales Hvezda
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Bert Timmerman wrote: Do not discuss patents here please ! This is highly contageous and attracts law suits. Without the mentioning of patents the general idea would have come across as

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Ales Hvezda wrote: Do not discuss patents here please ! This is highly contageous and attracts law suits. Without the mentioning of patents the general idea would have come across as well. Oh good heavens. Mentioning the existence of a patent, and

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread DJ Delorie
Ok, that's fine by me, as it's your list. But could you explain how it could be dangerous? That suggestion sounds quite ludicrous to me. For starters, archived proof that you knew of the existence of a patent automatically triples any damages you may have to pay.

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Ok, that's fine by me, as it's your list. But could you explain how it could be dangerous? That suggestion sounds quite ludicrous to me. For starters, archived proof that you knew of the existence of a patent automatically triples any damages

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Bas Gieltjes
Tom, I didn't find a gschem hydraulic symbol library, so I'm attempting to build one. My first stumbling block is the use of filled and non-filled triangles, which differentiate hydraulic pumps from pneumatic compressors. Is it possible to draw filled triangles or polygons with gschem?

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, Dave McGuire wrote: Ok, that's fine by me, as it's your list. But could you explain how it could be dangerous? That suggestion sounds quite ludicrous to me. In general, it really does present a huge legal risk, so I agree with the policy. In this case,

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Tom, I'm a mechanical engineer (BSc) with an electrical background (Technical College). I have thought of and made a small start for non-electrical symbols for Piping Instrumentation Diagrams, with hydraulics and pneumatical symbols to follow

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Wilkins
You might find University of South Carolina 's VTB (Virtual Test Bench) software useful. It is free to download (but seems to be closed source -- I couldn't find any details on the license). [1]http://vtb.engr.sc.edu/vtbwebsite/#/Overview It's intended for doing multidisciplinary

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:14 PM, al davis wrote: Ok, that's fine by me, as it's your list. But could you explain how it could be dangerous? That suggestion sounds quite ludicrous to me. In general, it really does present a huge legal risk, so I agree with the policy. I will respect the

gEDA-user: Filled / unfilled paths [WAS: Re: hydraulic symbols and schematics]

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:02 -0400, Stuart Brorson wrote: I don't think vanilla gschem currently supports filled regions. But this is a frequently requested feature, and the folks in Cambridge may have coded up a solution based upon the whizzy graphic work they have done. No, it does (since

gEDA-user: symbol edit-translate working strangely

2010-04-07 Thread Dave N6NZ
I've created some symbols with non-zero width outlines using line elements of width 40. edit-translate(0) seems to get confused, and offsets the symbol so the pins don't line up on 100 unit grid. edit-translate with independent x,y values seems to by broken. How can I fix this, short of

Re: gEDA-user: hydraulic symbols and schematics

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Hawkins
Thanks for all the input. Here's the little hydraulic symbol library I started: http://tomahawkins.org/gschem-hydraulics.png http://github.com/tomahawkins/hydraulics A bit later I'll looking into path fills, and after that, netlisting this into something that can be simulated. Thanks for your

Re: gEDA-user: How do I change initial window size on gschem and pcb?

2010-04-07 Thread Atommann
Hi, 2010/4/7 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 14:23 +0800, Atommann wrote: Hi, 2010/4/7 Dave N6NZ n...@arrl.net: This may be an X-windows-on-Mac question, not a gEDA question, but... When gschem or pcb open on my macbook, the window is too tall, and the