On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:39:40 -0600
John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote:
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:
Then, there are many people which know cp xxx yyy, but prefer to avoid
it anyways. You want to catch these.
You don't want to dumb down the toolkit [...] gEDA is the
Hi folks,
I've just briefly trawled through the patch bug trackers for gaf, and
committed a bunch of sensible-looking patches.
If you've got any patches that haven't yet been dealt with, and you think
should have been, please:
(1) Make sure they've been submitted to the SF.net patch
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:50:48 +0100, Wojciech Kazubski w...@o2.pl wrote:
I added a bug for gschem report and a patch (3100680) that should fix
it.
The
bug causes cropping bitmap output from gschem under certain
circumstances.
Yep, I've seen it, and it looks obviously correct. I'll commit
If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend?
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A new set of patches is out, addressing all the suggestions here:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?
func=detailaid=3100354group_id=73743atid=538813
New patches make G-code output respecting the outline layer if
available.
Enhancements planned include milling this outline with an end mill
If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend?
I do my own fab at home, and just use PCB. Is there something else
you need besides that?
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On 11/01/2010 07:18 AM, Darryl Gibson wrote:
If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend?
None usually. Output postscript from pcb, then either make a toner transfer
print with a laser printer, or print on clear film with an inkjet printer
to make a mask for exposing
On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:39:40 -0600
John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote:
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:
Then, there are many people which know cp xxx yyy, but prefer to avoid
it anyways. You want to catch these.
You
On Nov 1, 2010, at 9:05 AM, John Doty wrote:
Putting a GUI on non-graphical functions *almost always* torques the design
away from effective scripting. You can claim this isn't necessarily so, but
actual software designers aren't usually smart enough to avoid this trap.
Agreed 100%
This
John Griessen wrote:
On 11/01/2010 07:18 AM, Darryl Gibson wrote:
If I wanted to do my own fab what CAM software would you recommend?
None usually. Output postscript from pcb, then either make a toner
transfer
print with a laser printer, or print on clear film with an inkjet printer
to
On 11/01/2010 11:05 AM, John Doty wrote:
Point and click is a seductive time waster*except* for inherently graphical
parts of the job.
A lot of layout is.
Rearranging some sets of files' locations is faster by GUI than by commands,
since whole swaths of files
can be moved at once after a
On 11/01/2010 12:20 PM, Darryl Gibson wrote:
Yes, I'd like to mill, drill, stuff, and solder too, but for now I'm
only worried about milling and drilling.
We've not had anyone with a circuit mill talk here yet that I know.
The EMC2 discussion list might be good for that. Also HeeksCAD might
As I use version control for projects, I often have datasheets in pdf form
and images along with the data that compresses well in git.
Does anyone know a good way to deal with such files?
I'm thinking of making a script to move those files out of the git controlled
directory
and link to them
On Nov 1, 2010, at 10:49 AM, John Griessen wrote:
On 11/01/2010 11:05 AM, John Doty wrote:
Point and click is a seductive time waster*except* for inherently graphical
parts of the job.
A lot of layout is.
Rearranging some sets of files' locations is faster by GUI than by commands,
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:49 AM, John Griessen wrote:
On 11/01/2010 11:05 AM, John Doty wrote:
Point and click is a seductive time waster*except* for inherently graphical
parts of the job.
A lot of layout is.
Sure. That's a good use of GUI. But parts selection, assigning pin numbers,
On 11/01/2010 01:35 PM, John Doty wrote:
(and no, regexp's would not help this.).
They do for me. mv `ls | grep ...` wherever. But mostly I try not to get into
a mess where there are large numbers of files in a directory.
We're going to be doing things differently with our different
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:46 AM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote:
On 11/01/2010 01:35 PM, Steven Michalske wrote:
I like combining GUI and command line, select the files in the gui and
drag to the terminal!
Sounds like a trick!
Does that work with the GUI program known
John Griessen wrote:
As I use version control for projects, I often have datasheets in pdf
form and images along with the data that compresses well in git.
Does anyone know a good way to deal with such files?
It looks like git-submodule [1] may do what you want without the headache of
On 11/01/2010 01:10 PM, John Griessen wrote:
What do you do to avoid git repos bloat with changes of docs you are using
in the early phases of a project?
I hit on something that I like.
Here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/540535/managing-large-binary-files-with-git
there's talk of
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com writes:
Rearranging some sets of files' locations is faster by GUI than by
commands, since whole swaths of files can be moved at once after a
quick selection task done visually.
not, when I count the time for cleaning up after fat-fingering a mouse
button
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:05:17 -0600
John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote:
What you want doesn't matter. What the *job* needs is the thing that
matters.
Suppose the user can't get the job done *at all* without whatever feature is
being proposed? That is the crux of my argument here.
This is not to
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:46:55 -0500
John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote:
Does that work with the GUI program known as GNOME Terminal?
Works in XFCE's terminal also; drag and drop from Thunar adds a space-separated
list of the absolute paths of the dropped objects to the end of the command
John Griessen:
As I use version control for projects, I often have datasheets in pdf form
and images along with the data that compresses well in git.
Does anyone know a good way to deal with such files?
I usually do
wget -x -N -c url
in ~/Net/http so I have the complete url to the file
snip
everything
/snip
I think the point John wants to make is that if you only program for a GUI,
then you loose the scriptability. I have see this many times in software.
Where is you write the GUI first, the scripting is an afterthought. Where as
if you write something scriptable in the
Am 01.11.2010 um 18:52 schrieb John Griessen:
only worried about milling and drilling.
We've not had anyone with a circuit mill talk here yet that I know.
Didn't notice the Enhancements for gEDA/pcb G-code export thread?
When building pcb from source, you get an G-code exporter, which
Am 01.11.2010 um 22:03 schrieb Matthew Sager:
if you plan to use the same size bit as the trace width and you
just want to
mill down the center of the trace.
Huh? If you mill down the center of the trace you remove the copper
there and get a negative of what you want. Did I miss
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 22:27 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:
When building pcb from source, you get an G-code exporter, which
produces isolation milling and drilling G-code.
gcode export is available in the 20100929 snapshot, we have it already
in the official Gentoo tree (still marked
Am 01.11.2010 um 19:35 schrieb John Doty:
the GUI designer's necessarily limited horizon.
You become offending.
Please go ahead and implement the CLI interface. It won't go away
when the GUI arrives.
Markus
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On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 23:41 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote:
gcode export is available in the 20100929 snapshot, we have it already
in the official Gentoo tree (still marked testing/unstable, but should
And they already discovered failing tests, related to gcode, see
On 11/01/2010 03:18 PM, Karl Hammar wrote:
If you do something like
mkdir Todo
echo Todo/ .gitignore
git-commit -m 'Todo/ is a work area git should not care about' .gitignore
then you have a work area*inside* the repo which git does not care about.
I like that. That's a helpful idea
On 11/01/2010 04:27 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:
Didn't notice the Enhancements for gEDA/pcb G-code export thread?
Oh yes. It's great that you are working on this.
It's just not ready for him to use I though, Is it?
Did you already get circuit prototyping results
with that?
JG
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:46:51 -0700
Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com wrote:
I code the latter way, writing a good low level API that has a simple
command line UI, then I add the GUI on top of it when it is warranted.
Which is precisely what I was suggesting; since such tools obviously
John Griessen:
On 11/01/2010 03:18 PM, Karl Hammar wrote:
If you do something like
mkdir Todo
echo Todo/ .gitignore
git-commit -m 'Todo/ is a work area git should not care about' .gitignore
then you have a work area*inside* the repo which git does not care about.
I like
Am 01.11.2010 um 22:03 schrieb Matthew Sager:
if you plan to use the same size bit as the trace width and you just
want to
mill down the center of the trace.
Huh? If you mill down the center of the trace you remove the copper
there and get a negative of what you
On 11/01/2010 06:52 PM, Matthew Sager wrote:
You would have to use a layer as a milling layer and then you could
draw arbitrary holes and slots.
But the question was about milling and drilling CAM SW, so tool paths --
EMC2 and HeeksCAD
JG
On Sunday 31 October 2010, Stefan Salewski wrote:
Can you please explain why we will always need the command
line for simulation in gEDA? (I have newer found the time
doing simulations...)
Try this without a command line:
Experimentally finding model parameters:
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