Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Andrew and all, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Poelstra Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:52 AM To: k...@familieknaak.de; gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Layer button

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/8/18 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca: Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Looks good. It resembles GtkTreeView and that raises a question - will it still be possible to toggle visibility without changing the active layer (moving

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-18 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/8/17 Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com: If you're willing to help then please check out the shop and let me know if there's anything amiss - would you consider buying the product, or is there something in the site that would deter you ? From a perspective of Firefox user

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Vanessa Ezekowitz
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:05:33 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: I think such a thing would look like: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/selector.png What do people think of this? Invisibility by greyed out buttons is much more easily grasped

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-18 Thread Andy Fierman
Which browser and OS are you using ? Chrome (with default settings i.e. JS enabled) on WinXP Pro SP3 32 bit. Haven't tried it at home with FF on LMDE 64 bit. :) BTW; just submitted a couple of your pages to: http://validator.w3.org/ Quite a few errors. H. :( Andy

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 07:48:31 +0200 Bert Timmerman bert.timmer...@xs4all.nl wrote: I think such a thing would look like: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/selector.png What do people think of this? IMHO, the former proposal with visibilty buttons without rectangles is the improvement

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Steven Michalske wrote: I really like this one. Bonus points for setting layer color by clicking on the colored rectangle. This should be part of a properties dialog for the respective layer. Properties may include attributes like skip-DRC, DRC rules specific to this layer, layer name,

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Layer names with white background are much easier to read than white on color we have now. If it were me, the colored squares could be a tad larger without increasig the

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: I think the concept of import/exporting into a spreadsheet program is an approach worthy of consideration as well. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/sch2csv http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/csv2sch Sure, comma separated lists can be imported

Re: gEDA-user: Task list for Symbol library creation.

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Павел Таранов wrote: We need a library as big as possible (not just basic symbols). ack. In an ideal world, we'd have both: A comprehesive lib of symbols, footprints and simulation models that represent all existing components. And a subset that represents a reasonalble choice to begin with.

Re: gEDA-user: Gschem and footprints

2011-08-18 Thread Steve Meier
I am happy that doc is still useful. Best Wishes to All here at geda, Steve M. On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 08:44 -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Colin D Bennett wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:35:46 -0500 (CDT) kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: I am sure this has been done

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: BTW, we could truncate layernames in buttons: ack. pins/pads -- leads Better: Divide these. Pads are different from pins. Pads reside on only one layer while pins are spanning all layers. During my recent multilayer layout it would have been handy to disable pads but

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 04:12:34AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Layer names with white background are much easier to read than white on color we have now. If it

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 08:29:13AM +0200, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: 2011/8/18 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca: Kai (and others), what do you think of this mockup?: http://wpsoftware.net/andrew/dump/mockup.png Looks good. It resembles GtkTreeView and that raises a question - will

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Jared Casper
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra [1]as...@sfu.ca wrote: 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I think that from a user's perspective that would make the visibility

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:25:06AM -0700, Jared Casper wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra [1]as...@sfu.ca wrote: 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I think

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread DJ Delorie
Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility independent of selection using the mouse. How important is this to people? It bothers me, but only because there is no keyboard shortcut in Gtk for toggling visibility. Ctrl-n doesn't toggle visibility? That's what the

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 01:13:37PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility independent of selection using the mouse. How important is this to people? It bothers me, but only because there is no keyboard shortcut in Gtk for toggling

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:25:06 -0700 Jared Casper jaredcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: 2. Whenever you hide a layer, the selector would jump to the previously-selected layer. I haven't tried it yet, but I think that from

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: I really dislike the double-click idea. I often need to quickly enable/disable visibility of multiple layers, and the last thing I need is to have to double-click each button. I would much prefer a small region on the button

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:57:33 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: I like the color swatch and how it shows a small rectangle of the layer color when the layer is hidden; if this swatch were the show/hide toggle, that

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:49:22AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:57:33 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:50:25AM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: I like the color swatch and how it shows a small rectangle of the layer color when

Re: gEDA-user: Creating bill of materials?

2011-08-18 Thread John Hudak
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Joshua [1]jos...@laserlinc.com wrote: I agree with Delorie. I also was only making slow progress with gattrib. I found the copy and paist functionality limited and strange. I also was confronted with the add column bug. If I remember

Re: gEDA-user: Off topic: request for a little help

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: Can they be shrunk and still be clear enough not to look silly? That would speed up page loading. Thanks, I think I'll do that. The only time I got noticable download delays was with the details page for each product. IMHO, it would be best to use the same image as in

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: I really dislike the double-click idea. I often need to quickly enable/disable visibility of multiple layers, Nothing beats accel-keys for fast actions. In this case [ctrl-N] or [shift-N] would be the natural choice. and the last thing I need is to have to

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: I like KMK's click/double-click idea if possible. Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility independent of selection using the mouse. Why is this so? Are double clicked items automatically selected in GTK widgets? How important is this

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-18 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:34:04PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Andrew Poelstra wrote: I like KMK's click/double-click idea if possible. Very possible. But you would still be unable to toggle visibility independent of selection using the mouse. Why is this so? Are double