Re: gEDA-user: howto toporoute?

2011-09-13 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 22:53 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Seems like the toporouter would need more than just GUI integration and user accessible parameters to become a viable option. :-| Sure -- in one of the last postings the author told us, that one year fulltime work ($50k) is

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 10:19 +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 22:20, Dan Roganti ragoo...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't say wipeout, from looking at the current state of documentation, there's been a huge amount of work done there. I would suggest just making some

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 09:22 -0500, John Griessen wrote: If anyone has some time for planning user interface changes, I have a few low level ideas Yes, a few people including me voted for this for years. That was one of the reasons for me starting my ruby gschem clone one year ago. Maybe the

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
that is really better for other tools? I am not convinced. Best regards, Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 17:35 -0700, Russell Dill wrote: I'll just sit back and wish for auto-route style by net property. Yes, I still think that old wish would be an improvement. One more step from a painting program to real EDA. Having properties/attributes like width, clearance,

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 10:07 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: Are you running an old version of GTK? My pcb tear-off menus are completely nonfunctional -- clicking menu items on the torn-off menu does not toggle the checkmark, for instance. Works fine for gtk+-2.24.4 and pcb-20100929 shipped

gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-25 Thread Stefan Salewski
If my memory is correct, there are plans (have seen a patch at geda-dev long time ago?) to allow moving of objects without need of selecting them first for gschem1.8, as suggested in my draft http://www.ssalewski.de/PetEd.png Would it make sense to have modifier keys for moving? I would like

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 13:53 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: eh, one of the reasons I really like having two monitors is so I can I have four monitors (monitors are cheap!). layout on the main monitor, menus and dialogs on the left, pdfs on the right, schematic on the upper. More or less

gEDA-user: Shadows for selected symbols?

2011-08-21 Thread Stefan Salewski
to find all selected elements when the display is small. The largest disadvantage is, that we are limited with useful colors. What I like is the clamping of lower linewidth, and the ability to move elements without the need of first selecting it. Best wishes, Stefan Salewski

Re: gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-12 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 14:27 -0400, John Hudak wrote: So I follow the tutorial on creating a gschem symbol I think I have seen similar reports a few times on this list, see http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Mar-2011/msg00316.html http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Mar-2011/msg00318.html and

Re: gEDA-user: Constraint-based PCB footprint design

2011-08-08 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 03:47 +0100, Rob Spanton wrote: Hey all, I've recently been playing around with designing footprints by describing a set of constraints that position features relative to each other. This is rather than specifying the absolute co-ordinates of every feature.

Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA

2011-08-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 15:33 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: just log out, Log out? Log OUT? What's that? ;-) Uptime 60 days, logged in 60 days ago... I can remember that you built something like a power meter some time ago. What is the power consumption of your box, and how much arctic

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GL can't render stretched arcs

2011-07-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 00:18 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: There is a fairly informative discussion of this problem on SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2945337/how-to-detect-if-an-ellipse-intersectscollides-with-a-circle Or you may look at

Re: gEDA-user: pcb GL can't render stretched arcs

2011-07-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 19:16 +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: Stefan Salewski: http://www.geometrictools.com/Documentation/DistanceEllipse2Ellipse2.pdf It seems a little too general and it is a 35MB download [1]. Their code seems to be in LibMathematics/Intersection/Wm5IntrEllipse2Ellipse2.cpp

gEDA-user: CERN launches Open Hardware Licence 1.1

2011-07-08 Thread Stefan Salewski
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/CERN-launches-Open-Hardware-Licence-1-1-1276096.html ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: web version of gschem/pcb

2011-06-20 Thread Stefan Salewski
priority on a tiny gschem clone written from scratch in Ruby using Cairo and GTK. I have spent about 450 hours of work for that project now, and I am far away from an useful tool still. (I can read gschem files, draw, zoom, pan and move elements -- really very limited still.) Best regards Stefan

Re: gEDA-user: help request: gnetlist not reading scm files

2011-06-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 17:20 -0400, Ethan Swint wrote: For some reason, when I call gnetlist, e.g. gnetlist -g BOM2 asymmetric_3phs.sch -o bom.txt it encounters an error: Failed to read BOM2 scm file [/usr/share/gEDA/scheme/gnet-BOM2.scm] Backtrace: In current input: 1: 0* (BOM2

Re: gEDA-user: Python: Task list ...

2011-05-27 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 13:33 +0900, John Doty wrote: Hmm, Python seems popular, Eagle, Windows, Basic, Java are popular too -- if popularity is your concern. Seriously -- I am not too happy that Python is praised, but Ruby is mentioned only a few times here. Both languages are very similar.

Re: gEDA-user: Task list for: Solving the light/heavy symbol problem

2011-05-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 11:52 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Maybe we should aim at core gnetlist API being available in libgeda? Or in libgnetlist? What would this API provide? Would PCB need/want to use it? Unfortunately I was not able to follow all the discussions on this list, so maybe my

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-18 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 19:26 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Russell Shaw wrote: I think Scheme could be made much more attractive in geda if it was adequately explained in documentation or a tutorial. +1 I wouldn't mind to learn (a new language). But to learn a new language by almost

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
/pcb library, and make a decent library browser. makes me not really confident. Best regards, Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 12:02 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Core features in the PCB editor can be pretty complex. We have a lot of code for dealing with polygon geometry, May we consider use of clipping libraries like http://angusj.com/delphi/clipper.php

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:35 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: I was expert at using high-end HP DCS/PCDS on unix boxes 20 years ago before it got discontinued, and a few other cad systems since then. A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol and footprint in

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
. And there is Fritzing or Qucs -- Qucs has schematics and simulation support, but PCB backend is missing. Once I had the strange idea to implement a PCB or schematics mode for inkscape. Really crazy. Best wishes, Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 00:41 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: The problem with KiCAD is 1) C++, 2) Qt. C++ was a *really* bad idea. Qt i don't like because it was fundamentally architected just for the sake of hiding code from users using the MOC preprocessor that used to be closed source.

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:06 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: I'm still studying geda, but if i did some real work on it, it would end up having an extra file format, extra guis, and a closer sch/pcb link. Maybe a good starting point is defining a new extended file format. (For current pcb

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 12:44 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: I've always been interested in CAD programs and thought of making a schematic/pcb one from scratch. I've never truly understood why people would rewrite a (potentially) huge application set just because. Why not start with the existing

Re: gEDA-user: physics Re: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-16 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 20:52 +0200, Stephan Boettcher wrote: John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes: Because when the theory is all epicycles and no physics, there's no foundation upon which to stand. Epicycles are no less physics than Keplers Laws. Epicycles really reminds me to gEDA. Both

Re: gEDA-user: One more viewer for gEDA data.

2011-05-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
that, but it is a little bit more complicated, I still have to spend some hours to get it really working. Best regards, Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:49 -0600, John Doty wrote: locate .sym | grep -i lm317 locate -i lm317 | grep .sym should give the same result, with less consume of resources. Indeed | grep .sym should be obsolete here. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:08 -0600, John Doty wrote: On May 2, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:49 -0600, John Doty wrote: locate .sym | grep -i lm317 locate -i lm317 | grep .sym should give the same result, with less consume of resources

Re: gEDA-user: Wrong Pinout for LM337

2011-04-29 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 20:24 -0300, Daniel B. wrote: Hi geda-user@ The LM337 symbol (lm337-1.sym) has a wrong pinout. Seems that LM337 symbol shipped with geda has no associated footprint, so we can not definitely say that pinout is wrong. It may be better to say that pinnumbers do not match

Re: gEDA-user: RFC using SVG with semantic markup as an EDA format

2011-04-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
/tango_icons.svg Very nice icon set, I intend using it for my plain ruby gschem clone. Best regards, Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: RFC using SVG with semantic markup as an EDA format

2011-04-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 23:18 +0800, Steven Michalske wrote: This is what I see as a benefit. If you go to a vendor's website you will find one or two EDA footprint and symbol files. But nothing that was a bell ringer for commonality. It would be nice to have a universal starting point.

Re: gEDA-user: RFC using SVG with semantic markup as an EDA format

2011-04-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 07:50 -0400, Ethan Swint wrote: On 04/10/2011 04:55 PM, Andrew Seddon wrote: I am exploring the idea of using the Scalable Vector Graphics standard as an EDA format. https://github.com/seddona/svgparts Would be interested in your thoughts, there's a little more

Re: gEDA-user: Attribute Net (without pin assignment) - for Power and Port Symbols

2011-04-11 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 23:25 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: I would advise a note of caution. What some people do not like is the visible :1 in schematics -- can we simple suppress that output for symbols with only one pin and digit 1 after the : That would be a not too dangerous patch, because it

Re: gEDA-user: inherited attributes

2011-04-08 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:29 -0400, Vincent wrote: Here are the 2 sym original and the modified respectively. You have modified much... This is the output of gsymcheck for the second symbol, please check. stefan@AMD64X2 ~/ttt $ gsymcheck -vv s2.sym Read garbage in [/home/stefan/ttt/s2.sym] :

Re: gEDA-user: New mass attribute tool: gattrib_csv

2011-04-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
, symbols have attributes and pins, and pins have again attributes. I still have to learn how that java program solves that problem. Best wishes, Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: gEDA-user: Two Power Supplies in gschem

2011-04-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
://www.gedasymbols.org/ DJs and Wilsons tutorial may help http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/gs.html http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial It is not easy for beginners, and my english is really bad today, sorry. I hope someone other can explain it in better words. Best regards, Stefan Salewski

Re: gEDA-user: Multi-Select with SHIFT, CTRL...

2011-03-19 Thread Stefan Salewski
of white, and shadow works not good for dark backgrounds. Of course we can always use fallback to a plain monochrome highlight color. Another method is drawing highlighted elements with thicker lines -- I have not tested that yet. Best regards, Stefan Salewski

Re: gEDA-user: Tragesym template problem.

2011-03-19 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 15:57 -0700, Daniel Ross wrote: Hello, I am trying to fill out the Tragesym template for an ATmega128RFA1, but the script gives me an error when I pass it the CSV file (renamed to a .sch file): error: version attribut missing In the template, I had changed the

gEDA-user: Multi-Select with SHIFT, CTRL...

2011-03-18 Thread Stefan Salewski
are free to use SHIFT and CTRL modifiers for left mouse button. Each for element under mouse pointer or in selection rectangle. And yes, I continue working on my Ruby gschem clone, from time to time. It is some labor, but I think it is worth the effort. Best regards, Stefan Salewski

Re: gEDA-user: Multi-Select with SHIFT, CTRL...

2011-03-18 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 17:26 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: Is there a guide how multi-select should work for tools like PCB and gschem? OK, found the gnome guide -- have too read it: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/2.32/hig-book.html http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/2.32/hig

Re: gEDA-user: Multi-Select with SHIFT, CTRL...

2011-03-18 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 19:17 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: shift-leftclick on object Don't forget about select-region, select-touching, select-touching-line, etc. I guess that is not too common in schematics? Here is my current draft for my gschem clone: Peted intended user interface

Re: gEDA-user: Multi-Select with SHIFT, CTRL...

2011-03-18 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 19:47 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Don't forget about select-region, select-touching, select-touching-line, etc. I guess that is not too common in schematics? select-region is *very* common. Of course I will support selection with a rectangular bounding box. Does

Re: gEDA-user: Multi-Select with SHIFT, CTRL...

2011-03-18 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 00:41 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: LMBD + LMBU over hot pin end: start new net segment I mean: LMBD + LMBU over hot pin end or existing net end: start new net segment For starting a new net segment from void area we will have to activate net mode

Re: gEDA-user: Metric, Imperial, Rounding, DRC, and board houses

2011-02-21 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 15:23 -0700, Russell Dill wrote: I'm starting a new design and all my components are metric based, including a few 1mm pitch BGA components. I'd really like to do the layout in metric, but I'm worried about two factors. The first of which is that PCB does not yet have the

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb cannot find components

2011-02-21 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 17:45 -0500, Vincent wrote: Hello, Can any body help? Thank you in advance. Vinny In your working directory there may exist configuration files called project, gafrc, gschemrc or similar. Ensure that these contain valid information, i.e. paths to symbols, footprints

Re: gEDA-user: symbol net usage

2011-02-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 08:57 -0500, George M. Gallant, Jr. wrote: I have created a symbol for the TI ADS1298. It has multiple power pins, DVdd, DVss, ADvv, AVss. For test purposes, I declared 1 of the pins as a net. Loadiing the schematic gives: Read garbage in [ads1298-1.sym] :

gEDA-user: Open Source Hardware (OSHW) Definition 1.0

2011-02-14 Thread Stefan Salewski
http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW mentioned today by german heise magazin http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Open-Source-Hardware-Definition-veroeffentlicht-1189508.html ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: PCB bug: only names, draw a line, undo: segfault

2011-01-30 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 14:48 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: PCB version 20100929 Compiled on Nov 8 2010 at 05:46:11 Debian sid. gtk. - Settings-Only Names - draw a line - hit 'u' for undo. - segfault. Works fine for Gentoo AMD64, tested empty board and tut1.pcb. PCB version

Re: gEDA-user: speed of the gschem GUI

2011-01-22 Thread Stefan Salewski
. You may look at the cairo list, i.e http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.cairo/20970 Please let us know if you have first results. Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?

2011-01-05 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:32 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: A single 74_pwr.sym can not work for 14 and 16 pin parts, so I really recommend to do not use a 74_pwr.sym at all, but one for 14, and one for 16 pins devices. I think I called my one at gedasymbols 74xx-14N-Pwr-1.sym. But the

Re: gEDA-user: Symbol question – suggestions?

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 21:14 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: comment=Use 74_pwr.sym for supply I wrote it some months ago... A single 74_pwr.sym can not work for 14 and 16 pin parts, so I really recommend to do not use a 74_pwr.sym at all, but one for 14, and one for 16 pins devices. I think I

Re: gEDA-user: Reacquainting to geda and pcb

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 16:09 -0500, Rob Butts wrote: How can I see the components and their footprints? Menu Window- Library ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Reacquainting to geda and pcb

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 16:19 -0500, Rob Butts wrote: Thanks! So if I use a 1206 smt component I should set the footprint value in gschem to smt1206 or smt1206.ele? Generally use the file name, .fp can be missing. So 1206 or 1206.fp may be fine -- I use 1206. Of course these files

Re: gEDA-user: Reacquainting to geda and pcb

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 16:32 -0500, Rob Butts wrote: So you should have a .fp text file in a library for each footprint used in a design? For the newlib footprint format each footprint is indeed an own file, and generally newlib is recommended. For oldlib/m4 footprints are generated at the

gEDA-user: Does Google do not like us any more?

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
From time to time I have problems finding my own geda postings again. Just tried a google search for site:archives.seul.org Boettcher huge mess Gives no results for me -- should give http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Dec-2010/msg00491.html Is there a better way for searching?

gEDA-user: Wiki cleanup?

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
Some weeks ago I wrote On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 16:32 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: Documentation of gEDA, including PCB is a huge mess, [...] Indeed, I fully agree in my heart, Do we really need this in the wiki:

Re: gEDA-user: Does Google do not like us any more?

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 23:10 +, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Tuesday 04 January 2011 22:55:39 Stefan Salewski wrote: From time to time I have problems finding my own geda postings again. Just tried a google search for site:archives.seul.org Boettcher huge mess Gives no results

Re: gEDA-user: Autorouter - distance to pins

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:03 -0400, Cam Farnell wrote: Is there a way to set the minimum distance that the autorouter leaves between tracks and pins? I've looked in the manual, tried setting DRC Minimum copper spacing, tried enabling Settings-Enforce DRC clearances but the autorouter still runs

Re: gEDA-user: Does Google do not like us any more?

2011-01-04 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 03:27 +0100, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: I was not aware that GMANE works for gEDA lists. Maybe we should place a note at gpleda.org about that. done. http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:mailinglists ---)kaimartin(--- Thanks, GMANE works fine

Re: gEDA-user: series of gnetlist backend patches

2011-01-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 14:24 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: +1 Please don't introduce additional road blocks to double purpose schematics for pcb and simulation. I wonder if slotdef in a symbol is a good thing at all. If I place an OpAmp in a schematic -- should I decide for dual or quad

gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
I guess all this was discussed on the list multiple times in the past, so this is more a note to myself... I think it may be useful to have two types of symbols, soft and hard. Hard symbols have an footprint attribute and maybe additional hard properties. Soft symbols are simple an OpAmp or a

Re: gEDA-user: Soft and Hard symbols

2011-01-03 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 16:04 -0800, Edward Hennessy wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: I guess all this was discussed on the list multiple times in the past, so this is more a note to myself... I think it may be useful to have two types of symbols, soft and hard

Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 16:30 -0800, Oliver King-Smith wrote: I have been having problems with LTSpice simulating some components from TI. Why, what was not working? LTSpice with wine and Linux? I was thinking of looking at TINA-TI spice program. Has anyone tried going from gschem to

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: Why is no-net copper useful? Rick -- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks... -- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons -- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milling your boards or to save chemicals

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 18:42 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: * what is the intended use of the attribute device=7400 ? I think I have used and suggested once to put not plain text strings like 7400 onto the symbol, but use an attribute, it may have been device. device may be reserved for spice,

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:57 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: Why is no-net copper useful? Rick -- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks... -- some like to have copper below screws, for

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-31 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 14:10 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: __ | | | |\ | |-––– | | |__| I've seen those too, but they are not the same as those I learned at school and have used all my life. Well, I guess

Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2010-12-30 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 01:06 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: I looked at the gEDA symbols site, but it was very hard to find anything useful in this matter, since there was no ”preview” thing involved as far as I can see. You may point your browser to

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 19:31 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, using GTK/Cairo. No, the project is not death... I just managed to draw to a GTK drawing area

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 09:28 -0500, George M. Gallant, Jr. wrote: Ran without any user intervention on Fedora 13. Installed Ruby some time ago without knowing if I would ever use it. Fine! Depending on the window sizing, either the top/bottom horizontal line heights or the left/right

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
people fixing that. If you will, you can fix this bug manually, as explained in the bug reports. Thanks Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 17:47 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: Please try to execute /usr/share/doc/ruby-pango-0.19.4/sample/pango_cairo.rb If that fails, please add some comment to above bug reports. Or try /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb Should fail too

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
it in my initial post: http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Oct-2010/msg00122.html On Dec 26, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to support manually

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 18:57 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de writes: I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to support manually- and auto-routing with already

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:01 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: Is your box also AMD64 no multilib profile? I did not recall what I'd installed, and it looks like no specific profile is set, which might be the problem in itself: Interesting. For me no-multilib is marked with the star, and I do

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:33 -0500, John Doty wrote: On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: I have to modify the netlister and gschem -- gschem tries to be smart and makes one single net when multiple net segments are in a straight line. Doesn't putting: (net-consolidate

Re: gEDA-user: pcb export eps bottom silk

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 01:27 +0100, Michael Theurl wrote: Hello List, I try to export the TOP and BOTTOM eps files http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_can_i_print_the_bottom_side_of_the_board pcb -x eps --layer-stack silk,solderside .. The wiki calls it solderside, not only

Re: gEDA-user: Creating new symbols

2010-12-25 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 09:17 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: And that is a real problem. gschem should really be able to to this automatically when saving symbols. IMHO, it should not. Every translation breaks instances of the symbol in existing schematics

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-25 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 09:50 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: Not always a low entry barrier is a real benefit. Wikipedia beats each and every encyclopedic dictionary in existance. Nupedia, with the same aim but higher barrier produced less than 100 article were

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 12:43 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Now I'd like to save my ”new” symbol somewhere. There is not really a reason to save it, because you have only moved the text around and modified the alignment mark. OK, added a value attribute. For the current schematic, you can simple

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 12:32 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: The description refer to the position of the alignment mark relative to the text itself. For gschem 1.6.1 there is still one strange thing, which I mentioned years ago on this list, and still do not really understand: If we rotate

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter VERY slow?

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 12:10 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: Anthony Blake wrote: I'm not going to be working on PCB anymore. This is sad news, indeed. :-| And it will not improve chances of the gEDA project to get accepted for a Google Summer of Code again!

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 16:20 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: I have to agree with timecop on this issue: The problem that needs to be solved, is not connected to the file format. It about finding authors. This is the big benefit of the wikibook concept. The entry barrier is as low as it can

Re: gEDA-user: Creating new symbols

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 22:24 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 22:16 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: File-Save But first it is important Some of your fine explanations may be already at http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gschem_symbol_creation More is here: http

Re: gEDA-user: Creating new symbols

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 20:34 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: At http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial the following is written: ”When all the edits are done, it's very important when editing symbols to do a Edit→Symbol Translate to zero before saving. And that is a real

Re: gEDA-user: Moving positioning diamond in PCB

2010-12-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 16:37 -0800, blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if someone could tell me how to move the positioning diamond in PCB or how to move the the foot print itself so it is centered over the diamond. Usually, I have to take several hours to move everything in

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:18 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: I'll provide my symbols and footprints with this features: * symbols are smaller than the standard library Why? I think the only reason to shrink all symbols is because relation to default text size? (Note, we can always enlarge title

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 16:32 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: Documentation of gEDA, including PCB is a huge mess, [...] Indeed, I fully agree in my heart, but I have at least two good reasons why I do not call it loud: - It will discourage people to contribute - I respect the people who

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 22:38 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 15:18 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: I'll provide my symbols and footprints with this features: * symbols are smaller than the standard library Why? There are many

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
is always invisible, should be a special class, which is always accessed from editing window. Something like gattrib build in into gschem. Sorry, I have no solution currently. Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:00 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Yet another newbie question then: I tried to enter a value of a resistor You can change the alignment mark of text, select the text, and select Edit/Edit Text from menu. In the popup window there is an alignment field. Not sure if

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:31 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Value: → Enter ”390k”. Does it look nice? It certainly does not on my system. Am I doing this right at all? May it be related to your OHM sign? I never use it, and I do not see it often in professional sheets. It ok if you want

Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:38 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 00:31 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Value: → Enter ”390k”. Does it look nice? It certainly does not on my system. Am I doing this right at all? Ah, now I understand you problem: You want to place

Re: gEDA-user: get-package-attribute sometimes returns ? - ID: 3114991

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 14:05 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: I haven't nailed down what it is that bothers me, but I have recently made my own versions of capacitors, resistor, diodes, and LED symbols that are more _compact_ than the gschem stock library versions. One point which confuse me

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

2010-12-22 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:34 -0800, blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how to make a foot print. Many footprints are available, some shipped with PCB, some at gedasymbols.org, some at

Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchy Refdes and Component Values

2010-12-22 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 00:18 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: If the refdes of a resistor in the layout reads 3R12 I know it is on page 3 of my schematics printout. Some people may read 3R12 as 3.12 OHM, I have seen such notations somewhere, i.e. 4R7 for 4.7 Ohm.

Re: gEDA-user: overlapping via changes

2010-12-22 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 00:40 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote: Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Thanks. I'll put this to the wiki. http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips?#i_want_to_draw_two_vias_very_close_to_each_other_but_pcb_won_t_let_me ---)kaimartin(-- Wiki writes: I want to draw two

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