Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-16 Thread Peter TB Brett
Before this deteriorates into a my software is better than your software contest, can I suggest that we try to keep things on-topic? An excellent suggestion. Peter :-( -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread andrew whyte
Negotiating with IEEE is a good idea. ... but I'd ask them to put links to our website, or give them lectures about the project. I think working with the IEEE is a good idea. ... I am the chair of the IEEE consultants network in Washington, DC. I apologise for being flippant in my previous

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread Rick Collins
Andrew, Thanks for the reply. It is a bit hard to read here because all the lines are run together. Kaimartin has indicated this is because of using transfer encoding base64. Any chance you can resend this in a different format? Rick At 03:48 AM 12/15/2010, you wrote: Negotiating

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread timecop
Thanks for the reply.  It is a bit hard to read here because all the lines are run together.  Kaimartin has indicated this is because of using transfer encoding base64.  Any chance you can resend this in a different format? Funny you mention that, this email reads perfectly fine in my

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread Rick Collins
At 10:12 AM 12/15/2010, you wrote: I'm not sure about the 'base64' stuff, this is google's 'rich text format'Â some people prefer plain text on the mailing list so I've sent this straight to you. Hope its a bit easier to read. Thanks for the reply. I'm not clear on what you did

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 15 December 2010, timecop wrote: Funny you mention that, this email reads perfectly fine in my closed-source email reader. Of course it does. You are using the same closed-source email reader as Andrew does. Now, how about a different closed-source email reader, like the one

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread Michael Sokolov
al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: Base64 is a published standard that should be universally supported. ... by way of standard open source mailing list managers detecting and automatically rejecting posts encoded in base64. Sorry, couldn't resist. MS

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-15 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 15 December 2010, Michael Sokolov wrote: ... by way of standard open source mailing list managers detecting and automatically rejecting posts encoded in base64. Just because Eudora on Windows can't cope with it? ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-14 Thread Kovacs Levente
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:02:15 + andrew whyte ajwh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I realise that I am joining a very established thread, but I'd like to put forward 2 cents worth. Please don't be offended if what I'm saying isn't the same as your opinion. I have used gEDA as the main

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-14 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Anthony Blake wrote: We already have a decent footprint/symbol library.. Ermm, no. We don't have decent libraries. What we have, is two sets of inconsistent, incomplete libraries plus an orderless bunch of user contributions in gedasymbols.org. The default symbols refuse to give a clue what

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-14 Thread Rick Collins
At 04:30 AM 12/14/2010, Kovacs Levente wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:02:15 + andrew whyte ajwh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, ..snip.. Because of the GERBER standard, FOSS stands a chance of creating competitive tools for EDA, this is much more difficult in areas where open

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-13 Thread andrew whyte
Hi Everyone, I realise that I am joining a very established thread, but I'd like to put forward 2 cents worth. Please don't be offended if what I'm saying isn't the same as your opinion. I have used gEDA as the main (but not only) tool for EDA in my company for two and a half years, I don't

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-13 Thread timecop
 Another option, that may not be acceptable to all, is that in the UK RS Farnell both recently acquired small PCB development companies(DesignSpark eagle respectively).  The intention being the companies adopt the free tool which integrates easily with their catalogue and then buy more from

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-13 Thread George M. Gallant, Jr.
On 12/13/2010 08:23 PM, timecop wrote: Another option, that may not be acceptable to all, is that in the UK RS Farnell both recently acquired small PCB development companies(DesignSpark eagle respectively). The intention being the companies adopt the free tool which integrates easily with

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-13 Thread timecop
Why do you bother to subscribe to this list? Its obvious that $0.02 is worth more than your opinions. Why do you bother replying? Is it to show you agree or disagree? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-13 Thread Anthony Blake
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:23 PM, timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway tl;dr version: RS sucks, DesignSpark sucks, Eagle sucks, buying a EDA suite to pimp to your customers as the only benefit of your shitty stock/price practice = stupid. Also any designer too lazy to make

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING (was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB)

2010-12-12 Thread Anthony Blake
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Justyn Butler justynbutler+g...@googlemail.com wrote: On 10 December 2010 00:09, Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:27 AM,  asom...@gmail.com wrote: How about a Kickstarter project for the toporouter?  Let Anthony

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-12 Thread John Griessen
On 12/12/2010 01:20 PM, Anthony Blake wrote: If I do it, I think I should aim for a full years worth of funding, which would be at least 50k. Three months is too short. What do you guys think? I have plans to use it for my low budget launches of open hardware products, so I've looked at it

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING (was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB)

2010-12-11 Thread Justyn Butler
On 10 December 2010 00:09, Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:27 AM,  asom...@gmail.com wrote: How about a Kickstarter project for the toporouter?  Let Anthony make a proposal and put it on www.kickstarter.com, and then gEDA users can pledge

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-10 Thread John Griessen
On 12/09/2010 05:03 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: Thanks Robert, it's good to know I'm not the only one ! Stephen I've contribute tip money to gEDA tools and will again, and am working on business that will support more than tip money. John Griessen -- Ecosensory Austin TX

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING

2010-12-10 Thread John Griessen
On 12/09/2010 06:09 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: how much funding would you need to get the toporouter working well That's always a tough question to answer... Unless it is for a limited feature, how do you define well?. A good question of Anthony is, How much time would it take to reorganize

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING (was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB)

2010-12-09 Thread myken
Hello all, On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 21:55 +1100, Stephen Ecob wrote: I'm aiming to finish University in a few months.. if people would like to fund work on the toporouter, then I would be pretty keen to work on it full time. Regards, Anthony Good, we've established that money could

Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING (was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB)

2010-12-09 Thread asomers
How about a Kickstarter project for the toporouter? Let Anthony make a proposal and put it on www.kickstarter.com, and then gEDA users can pledge donations. If it raises enough money by graduation (or whatever other deadline), then we all fund Anthony to work on it. If we don't raise enough,

gEDA-user: Funding for server

2010-03-15 Thread John Griessen
Peter Clifton wrote: It wouldn't take many people willing to contribute £2 per month (say), to fund a server, but getting infrastructure set up to make this kind of donation would be a pain. There is chipin.com ChipIn does not charge any fees to organizers and contributors of events that

Re: gEDA-user: Funding for server

2010-03-15 Thread Windell H. Oskay
I find adverts generally annoying. That's fair enough. There are better alternatives than advertisements to get the website funded. Yes and no. I'm certainly willing to chip in, and so is my company. However, one-time contributions are things need to be negotiated or processed on a

Re: gEDA-user: Funding for server

2010-03-15 Thread John Luciani
Popup ads and ads intermixed with gEDA content would be distracting but I don't believe that is what is being suggested. A sidebar of text ads does not seem bad. Occasionally useful and easy to ignore. (* jcl *) -- You can't create open hardware with closed EDA tools. twitter: