Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-05 Thread Andy Fierman
- back-annotation to schematic from the PCB editor. An example of where this is essential is if impedance controlled nets end up having to cross plane breaks and extra capacitors have to be added to couple the ground return paths between the planes. A net in the schematic may have an impedance

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-05 Thread John Doty
On Sep 2, 2011, at 9:36 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Besides, I always thought geda/pcb's competition was Eagle, not the real high-end EDA tools. There are a *lot* of features we don't have, that are hard to come by, that the high end tools have. I came to gEDA from Viewlogic, which I used to

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-05 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Steven Michalske wrote: +1 to bundling plugins with pcb sources.. +1 to merging plug-ins into the main project. There is no point in keeping useful features outside. The necessity to compile and keep distinct plugins for different versions of PCB is a pain. Also, they tend to bit-rot and

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-05 Thread Stephen Ecob
2011/9/6 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de: Steven Michalske wrote: +1 to bundling plugins with pcb sources.. +1 to merging plug-ins into the main project. There is no point in keeping useful features outside. The necessity to compile and keep distinct plugins for different

gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread John Griessen
Does the category low end bother you? Original Message Subject: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:12:20 +1000 From: Dave Jones d...@eevblog.com CC: upda...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org I'm planning a review of the

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Does the category low end bother you? Nope. Dave comes from Altium so everything is relative to that ;-) Besides, I always thought geda/pcb's competition was Eagle, not the real high-end EDA tools. There are a *lot* of features we don't have, that are hard to come by, that the high end tools

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 18:08 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 11:36 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Does the category low end bother you? Nope. Dave comes from Altium so everything is relative to that ;-) Besides, I always thought geda/pcb's competition was Eagle, And

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Bob Paddock
Just for the record, I'm not sure what our moderation policy is. Are any of your posts being rejected by moderation? (If so - just what kind of emails are you sending? ;)). One of the things that changed when the list went moderated, is that I no longer see my own posts, so I really never know

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Steven Michalske
I rarely see my own posts, I turned on post acks. On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Bob Paddock graceindustr...@gmail.com wrote: Just for the record, I'm not sure what our moderation policy is. Are any of your posts being rejected by moderation? (If so - just what kind of emails are you

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 03:45:57PM -0400, Bob Paddock wrote: Just for the record, I'm not sure what our moderation policy is. Are any of your posts being rejected by moderation? (If so - just what kind of emails are you sending? ;)). One of the things that changed when the list went

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 01:10:10PM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: I see it sometimes, but with other people's messages as often as mine. For example, Peter C. recently replied to a message from Stephan. I received Peter's reply but not Stephan's message. I meant to say 'Stefan Salewski' here.

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
John Griessen wrote: Does the category low end bother you? It is at the low end of the price tag scale :-) ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1,

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:18:20 -0500 John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: Does the category low end bother you? Well, I think low-end is not very specific in reality. Does gEDA really belong in the category of EAGLE, or is it much more powerful? Maybe the “low-end” attitude toward gEDA is

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:18:20 -0500 John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: Does the category low end bother you? Well, I think low-end is not very specific in reality. Does gEDA really belong in the category of