Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 18:39 -0600, John Griessen wrote: On 03/04/2011 06:24 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: I thought basing it on svg with layers defined to be each layer in a layout. But SVG is a shape outline format and RS-274X is centerline and width format. A round ended pad in RS-274X

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread John Griessen
On 03/05/2011 05:04 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: It depends on the primitives used - but I expect it is not too hard either way. SVG does of course support a lot of things which RS-274X cannot though. OK. YOU can make SVG that is easily translatable, but if you had a footprint tool that used it

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread Steven Michalske
PCB supports polygons. Filled paths yield a polygon. and PCB can cope with outputting to RS-274X The point is that I wanted something not PCB centric. RS-274X can support polygons as well, it is RS-274D that can't and must be vector filled (painted). But footprint to RS-274X translation is

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi John, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of John Griessen Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:17 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011 On 03/05/2011 05:04 AM

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 05.03.2011 um 16:17 schrieb John Griessen: OK. YOU can make SVG that is easily translatable, but if you had a footprint tool that used it because so much content is available from other sources, you might get the outlined content very often and have to convert it to stroked lines.

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread John Griessen
On 03/05/2011 02:41 PM, Markus Hitter wrote: it might be less work to replace or complement the current track drawing stuff with a generic SVG drawing library. Then every layout is also a valid SVG file and can be edited with other applications as well. The tricky part is keeping the connection

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-05 Thread Steven Michalske
At work we use odb++ valor files. But I would not suggest removing gerber file exports. Every board house understands them. Steve On Mar 6, 2011, at 9:11 AM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 03/05/2011 02:41 PM, Markus Hitter wrote: it might be less work to replace or

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-04 Thread John Griessen
On 03/02/2011 06:49 AM, Stefan Tauner wrote: my idea is some combination of the existing propsals: - Gschem parts manager or parts database (glue) - IPC Footprint Calculator (pcb) and my own idea: a stand-alone pcb footprint editor. A footprint calculator that uses IPC guidelines plus an

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-04 Thread John Griessen
On 03/02/2011 03:56 PM, Bert Timmerman wrote: And https://github.com/bert/pcb-fpw/wiki/User-Manual-for-pcb-gfpw This one is aimed to be more resembling with the IPC Footprint Calculator without violating IP and such. I hope to release version 0.0.11 this month. Wow! That will be really

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-04 Thread Steven Michalske
On Mar 5, 2011, at 5:55 AM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote: On 03/02/2011 06:49 AM, Stefan Tauner wrote: my idea is some combination of the existing propsals: - Gschem parts manager or parts database (glue) - IPC Footprint Calculator (pcb) and my own idea: a stand-alone pcb

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-04 Thread John Griessen
On 03/04/2011 06:24 PM, Steven Michalske wrote: I thought basing it on svg with layers defined to be each layer in a layout. But SVG is a shape outline format and RS-274X is centerline and width format. A round ended pad in RS-274X is a pair of points to define a line and a number to define

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 02.03.2011 um 05:40 schrieb Anthony Blake: Well if you want to do an ambitious project, you have to commit long term to the project, and I didn't do that.but Kai-Martin's attitude is a good example of why I'm no longer a gEDA developer. Kai-Martin: As well as using me as a

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:37:05 +0100 Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de wrote: Projects galore: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/gsoc2010_projects The projects for gaf, gschem and pcb have even been labled with the supposed difficulty. Two caveats: Google has a tendency to focus on projects that

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-02 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Stefan, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Tauner Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:49 PM To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011 On Wed, 02 Mar 2011

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-01 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:28:03 + Robert Fitzsimons robf...@273k.net wrote: Is the gEDA project going to try and participate in the Google Summer of of Code for 2011 [1]? The time for organizations to sign up starts on February 28th. 1.

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stefan Tauner wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:28:03 + Robert Fitzsimons robf...@273k.net wrote: Is the gEDA project going to try and participate in the Google Summer of of Code for 2011 [1]? The time for organizations to sign up starts on February 28th. 1.

Re: gEDA-user: Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-03-01 Thread Anthony Blake
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de wrote: The other caveat: Don't choose an overly ambitious project, even if it is as cool as liquid nitrogen. Ask Anthony Blake for the reason... Well if you want to do an ambitious project, you have to commit long term to the