Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-14 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote: File - Preferences - Library - Add a library path then Restart program for changes to take effect. This is how it works in Linux too, though. Most linux users don't see this as it is automatically done by the post install scripts of their distro. They choose geda in the

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-14 Thread DJ Delorie
Most linux users don't see this as it is automatically done by the post install scripts of their distro. They choose geda in the package manager, press install and are done. No need to add paths to anything. You're talking about two different things now. PCB's installed library is

gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread BAXENDALE P.R.
I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary cygwin bits to make it easy to install on a Windows PC. It's really intended for my students to use, but I've put it in [1]http://www.dur.ac.uk/peter.baxendale/stuff/gEDA/ in

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:12:26 +0100 BAXENDALE P.R. peter.baxend...@durham.ac.uk wrote: I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary cygwin bits to make it easy to install on a Windows PC. It's really intended for my students to use,

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary cygwin bits to make it easy to install on a Windows PC. Don't forget that you need to distribute the geda and cygwin sources with your binaries. Yes, it's a pain, but yes, you

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
That's great! How coincidental that I just opened up my mail client to post to the list about how I could not find a Windows build of gEDA! I want to recommend gEDA to colleagues and online contacts, but unless I can point them to a one-click Windows download, gEDA won't be considered --

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Dan Roganti
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Colin D Bennett [1]co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:12:26 +0100 BAXENDALE P.R. [2]peter.baxend...@durham.ac.uk wrote: I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Paddock
I want to recommend gEDA to colleagues and online contacts, but unless I can point them to a one-click Windows download, gEDA won't be considered -- it'll surely be KiCad or (grimace) EAGLE. You didn't notice my posting last week about my nightly geda-for-windows builds?  Or that a big part

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
Unless something has change that I'm unaware of, the Windows build of PCB does not print at all (you have to export PostScript to the That hasn't changed, but Peter has cairo-printing patches in the works. nor does it handle the library paths correctly. Seems to work OK for me. I'll get

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread John Doty
On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Dan Roganti wrote: I noticed that the Mac is also supported, but it's practically a given since it's basically uinx underneath. The difference between Windows and Mac here is that Charles Lepple has routinely packaged new releases for Fink on MacOSX, while

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Baxendale
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 06:30 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: I want to recommend gEDA to colleagues and online contacts, but unless I can point them to a one-click Windows download, gEDA won't be considered -- it'll surely be KiCad or (grimace) EAGLE. It's a one click download but remember its

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
Nobody has stepped forward to do this as a routine job for each new release of gEDA on Windows. Yes, I have. Peter and I have been working on the details, but I've been doing automated builds of geda for windows for a while now. I just haven't advertised them much because we're still testing

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 11:17 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Unless something has change that I'm unaware of, the Windows build of PCB does not print at all (you have to export PostScript to the That hasn't changed, but Peter has cairo-printing patches in the works. Specifically, I have a patch

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:42:12 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: I've built a cygwin version of geda/gaf 1.6.2 and pcb and combined it, rather crudely, with the necessary cygwin bits to make it easy to install on a Windows PC. Don't forget that you need to distribute the

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:21 -0400 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: That's great! How coincidental that I just opened up my mail client to post to the list about how I could not find a Windows build of gEDA! I want to recommend gEDA to colleagues and online contacts, but unless

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread John Doty
On Sep 13, 2011, at 9:53 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Nobody has stepped forward to do this as a routine job for each new release of gEDA on Windows. Yes, I have. Peter and I have been working on the details, but I've been doing automated builds of geda for windows for a while now. I just

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
So is mingw-based better so the user doesn't have a huge cygwin installation in their c:\cygwin? It would be nice to have a more self-contained install. The PCB installer is only 9 MB but I haven't tried stripping out debug information yet. The only other executable pcb needs is one to set

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
OK, so you and Peter intend to take on the additional burden of routinely packaging for Windows? The plan is to automate it so that there is no burden, aside from the usual dealings with bug reports, but that's no more than what we do for other platforms. I think you misread the mailing

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread John Doty
On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Colin D Bennett wrote: How much Unix tools does gEDA really need to run? Just the Scheme interpreter? Optional tools need a variety of support, e.g. Perl for refdes_renum, Python for tragesym. To participate in gedasymbols.org, you need CVS, and some of the

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Dan Roganti
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM, DJ Delorie [1]d...@delorie.com wrote: That's great! How coincidental that I just opened up my mail client to post to the list about how I could not find a Windows build of gEDA! I want to recommend gEDA to colleagues and online contacts,

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
But I would think to look at the main site, www.gpleda.org, for any kind of announcements I know, and I've chosen not to make them *that* widely known yet. We're planning a PCB release this weekend, hoping to have an official windows installer for PCB at that point. On other small thing, why

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread BAXENDALE P.R.
Don't forget that you need to distribute the geda and cygwin sources with your binaries. Yes, it's a pain, but yes, you have to do it. The gEDA sources are in the zip, but I forgot about the cygwin ones. I'll take a look at how much time it would take to include them, otherwise

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:43:46 -0600 John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Colin D Bennett wrote: How much Unix tools does gEDA really need to run? Just the Scheme interpreter? Optional tools need a variety of support, e.g. Perl for refdes_renum, Python for

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/geda-windows/ Well, I wasn't looking for a Windows build at the moment when you sent that message, Note, that this build contains a potential show-stopper for PCB: At least on winXP it fails to zoom. See

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Dave McGuire
On Tue, September 13, 2011 1:54 pm, DJ Delorie wrote: On other small thing, why are the links split across a couple of websites for the same project ? PCB, gEDA, and gerbv (etc) are not the same project. I keep trying (in person even!) to explain that to Dan. ;) If Dan can (repeatedly)

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Hannu Vuolasaho
From: j...@noqsi.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:16:45 -0600 To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools OK, so you and Peter intend to take on the additional burden of routinely packaging for Windows? Above and beyond

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
Note, that this build contains a potential show-stopper for PCB: At least on winXP it fails to zoom. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/843577 Might be worth retrying; since then we've bumped the gtk version. Zoom works fine for me in Win7.

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Paddock
nor does it handle the library paths correctly. Seems to work OK for me. I just downloaded the 20110913 snap shot. Fired up PCB. First thing I got was: Windows cannot open this file: ListLibraryContents.sh. Hardly the glowing introduction to a good Windows port. 'Cancel' that then go to

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
First thing I got was: I meant, if you open the library window, it's got the newlib parts in there. I knew the m4 stuff wouldn't work, that's why we converted everything. A few bugfixes in the converter and we can stop using m4 at runtime completely. File - Preferences - Library - Add a

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Paddock
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:55 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: First thing I got was: I meant, if you open the library window, Aren't those two different issues? File - Preferences - Library - Add a library path then Restart program for changes to take effect. This is how it works

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
Before a Windows Port takes up a prominent spot on any gEDA et.al. Home Page these are the issue I know that need to be fixed: Feel free to verify these and file bug reports for them. I'm pretty sure I'll forget the details over time. ___

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:36:25 +0100 BAXENDALE P.R. peter.baxend...@durham.ac.uk wrote: Don't forget that you need to distribute the geda and cygwin sources with your binaries. Yes, it's a pain, but yes, you have to do it. The gEDA sources are in the zip, but I forgot about the cygwin

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread DJ Delorie
You don't have to put the sources in the same ZIP file as the binary, do you? You can provide a source archive in the same download directory, right next to the binary download. Right, same directory (even just same server) is fine. ___ geda-user