Hello,
I just realized, that the 'view'-label in the status bar is still
displaying the 'old' boardsize-names.
The appended patch replaces them with 'top' and 'bottom'.
Should I do a separate bug-report for this?
Kind regards,
Felix
Am 11.04.2011 01:42, schrieb DJ Delorie:
I'm pondering a
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:58:51AM +0530, Abhijit Kshirsagar wrote:
1. Agree! I'd find this much more intuitive and easy to work with. The
layers option will be a big help...
+1
I also like the ieda of dropping component/solder side, replacing it
with whatever else that suggests one side and
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes:
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 19:42 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
LAYERNAME (1, top),
LAYERNAME (2, ground),
LAYERNAME (3, signal2),
LAYERNAME (4,
Is it really the layer order, or the group order that PCB+GL or
Ben-mode uses?
PCB draws in group order, not layer order.
So you can order the drawing layers as you wish, as long as the group
order is set to your stacking order.
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I basically agree, but why stop here and not add a Z coordinate to
each layer?
You deleted the answer to that:
Note that this would be an interim change until we get around to
either a new-board-wizard or new-means-load-template.
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 03:20:11AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
I basically agree, but why stop here and not add a Z coordinate to
each layer?
You deleted the answer to that:
Note that this would be an interim change until we get around to
either a new-board-wizard or
Well, I did not really understand that paragraph. Anyeay, fine with me,
although I don't really see the interest of an interim step.
I.e none of us have time right now to completely rewrite how layers
work
This was a fairly quick change which should make the current PCB more
obviously usable
On 04/11/2011 02:11 AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
consider layers with the same
Z coordinate as a layer group
OK, that could be used for stackup, and also farther along,
Z is a general axis designator, so would become Z position
in the stackup, so your group number attrib
should be some other
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 08:18 +0200, Stephan Boettcher wrote:
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes:
Is it really the layer order, or the group order that PCB+GL or Ben-mode
uses?
The group numbering - and I don't see any reason why we can't stipulate
that is the rendering sequence.
--
Peter
The group numbering - and I don't see any reason why we can't stipulate
that is the rendering sequence.
I think we decided that a while back. The group order *is* the
stacking order.
Now we just need to figure out how to enforce it :-)
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:35 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:
Now we just need to figure out how to enforce it :-)
With a stick!
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:45:18 +0200
Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de wrote:
DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
LAYERNAME (1, top),
LAYERNAME (2, ground),
LAYERNAME (3, signal2),
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:42 PM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
My netlist enters pcb by way of gsch2pcb, which supplies its own
default stackup. Can these be kept in sync somehow?
Mark Rages wrote:
My netlist enters pcb by way of gsch2pcb, which supplies its own
default stackup. Can these be kept in sync somehow?
My current work-around is to call pcb without a filename but with
multiple command line options to set the layer stack. After a save
with the desired name,
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
LAYERNAME (1, top),
LAYERNAME (2, ground),
LAYERNAME (3, signal2),
LAYERNAME (4, signal3),
LAYERNAME (5, power),
LAYERNAME (6, bottom),
LAYERNAME (7, outline),
LAYERNAME (8,
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 19:42 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
LAYERNAME (1, top),
LAYERNAME (2, ground),
LAYERNAME (3, signal2),
LAYERNAME (4, signal3),
LAYERNAME (5, power),
DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm pondering a minor change in pcb's defaults to give us a more
useful default stackup. How's this?
LAYERNAME (1, top),
LAYERNAME (2, ground),
LAYERNAME (3, signal2),
LAYERNAME (4, signal3),
LAYERNAME (5, power),
LAYERNAME (6, bottom),
LAYERNAME (7,
3. Rename outer layers to top/bottom, which seems to be what other
packages (specifically, eagle and kicad) use. Component/solder
isn't as obvious with SMT.
Sometimes the outer layers are called Primary and Secondary.
Consider a board of memory chips. Some memories come in mirror image
I concede that Top/Bottom is more common, not necessarily accurate.
We can't just call them this side and that side :-)
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On 04/10/2011 06:42 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
would such a layout be a better default for you?
Fine by me.
JG
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On 04/10/2011 08:26 PM, Bob Paddock wrote:
Sometimes the outer layers are called Primary and Secondary.
Main and Second are shorter and might convey similar meaning and be more
usable...
JG
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Pci cards call them A and B sides. But that too is odd. It seems that, like
it or not, top and bottom are the industry standard.
On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:24 AM, John Griessen j...@ecosensory.com wrote:
On 04/10/2011 08:26 PM, Bob Paddock wrote:
Sometimes the outer layers are called
1. Agree! I'd find this much more intuitive and easy to work with. The
layers option will be a big help...
2. What would go to the outline layer? The gerber files have outlines
for each layer right?
~Abhijit
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2. What would go to the outline layer?
The shape of your board, for example.
The gerber files have outlines for each layer right?
Not by default, no.
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