Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-19 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stefan Salewski wrote: You just hit a major weakness of the geda-pcb work-flow. There is not much in the tools to aid the selection. This is true, but we should say that this is in first order a problem for beginners. I disagree with this statement. The lack of footprint choosing aids is

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-19 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 14:23 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: You just hit a major weakness of the geda-pcb work-flow. There is not much in the tools to aid the selection. This is true, but we should say that this is in first order a problem for beginners. I

gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread blueeagle2
I was going through the gEDA tutorial and though it lists footprints for the tutorial, it does not say how I would determine what footprints to use for other components. For instance I have a schematic with a couple LEDs on it and a radial style electrolytic capacitor. The

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Vanessa Ezekowitz
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:25:25 -0700 blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the gEDA tutorial and though it lists footprints for the tutorial, it does not say how I would determine what footprints to use for other components. For instance I have a schematic with a couple LEDs on it

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread kai-martin knaak
blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the gEDA tutorial and though it lists footprints for the tutorial, it does not say how I would determine what footprints to use for other components. You just hit a major weakness of the geda-pcb work-flow. There is not much in the tools to aid

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 11:41 -0500, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: What I've found myself doing for this is to run PCB and flip through its footprint library until I find the particular footprint I want, Of course, if you have an idea of the name of the footprint (i.e. from Datasheet) one may try

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 19:20 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the gEDA tutorial and though it lists footprints for the tutorial, it does not say how I would determine what footprints to use for other components. You just hit a major weakness

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Rages
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 19:20 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: blueeag...@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the gEDA tutorial and though it lists footprints for the tutorial, it does not say how I would determine what

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread kai-martin knaak
Stefan Salewski wrote: Much more difficult is to ensure that all your footprints on your PCB board really match with your devices. One has to do a printout of the PCB board and place all devices on it. Next time, when you order parts from a different company, you may get other shapes

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 13:05 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: gschem-pcb is farther to the right on Kathy Sierra's graphic than any other software I regularly use: http://headrush.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/06/kickasscurvetwo.jpg Just hang in there, it makes more sense

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread DJ Delorie
If I order resistors, size 0805, they better fit a 0805 footprint ;-) Seriously, can you give an example for parts with arbitrary footprint? SMT connectors SOIC TQFN ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 20:29 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: Stefan Salewski wrote: If I order resistors, size 0805, they better fit a 0805 footprint ;-) Seriously, can you give an example for parts with arbitrary footprint? ---)kaimartin(--- Of course. Many ICs of my DSO board are

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread John Doty
On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Rages wrote: gschem-pcb is farther to the right on Kathy Sierra's graphic than any other software I regularly use: http://headrush.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/06/kickasscurvetwo.jpg The curves as drawn are nonsense. Generally they cross, at

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA schematic footprints

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Rages
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:32 PM, John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Mark Rages wrote: gschem-pcb is farther to the right on Kathy Sierra's graphic than any other software I regularly use: