gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Miguel Sánchez de León Peque
Hi all, I'm a student interested in contributing to gEDA and learn some C ;-). The biggest problem I find any time I start coding is how should I write this?. You're always talking about deprecated code, libraries you're/you're not using, old style... Could you tell me any

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 13:00 +0200, Miguel Sánchez de León Peque wrote: Hi all, I'm a student interested in contributing to gEDA and learn some C ;-). The biggest problem I find any time I start coding is how should I write this?. You're always talking about deprecated code, libraries

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 13:00 +0200, Miguel Sánchez de León Peque wrote: Hi all, I'm a student interested in contributing to gEDA and learn some C ;-). For C and GTK the book Andrew Krause: Foundations of GTK+ Development may be a starting point.

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread timecop
just get used to typing gtk_ridiculously_long_function_names_with_lots_of_underscores() and wearing your keyboard out since not a single IDE under Lunix would have code complete or any other code editor improvements us Windows programmers have been taking for granted for years. -tc On Fri, Apr

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Jason
timecop wrote: just get used to typing gtk_ridiculously_long_function_names_with_lots_of_underscores() and wearing your keyboard out since not a single IDE under Lunix would have code complete or any other code editor improvements us Windows programmers have been taking for granted for years.

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 23, 2010, at 9:47 AM, timecop wrote: just get used to typing gtk_ridiculously_long_function_names_with_lots_of_underscores() and wearing your keyboard out since not a single IDE under Lunix would have code complete or any other code editor improvements us Windows programmers have been

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 23, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: I think the trick is to use rich APIs such as GLib - rather than exclusively using the string.h, stdlib.h stuff provided in the C standard. The GLib routines take care of a lot of memory management relating to strings, and make like a lot easier

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Felipe De la Puente Christen
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:42 -0400, Jason wrote: timecop wrote: just get used to typing gtk_ridiculously_long_function_names_with_lots_of_underscores() and wearing your keyboard out since not a single IDE under Lunix would have code complete or any other code editor improvements us

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Jason wrote: As an FYI, Unix folks have been using this since before GUIs were an itch in Bill Gates pants... I'm just sayin' ;-) Indeed, UNIX folk have been using GUIs since GUIs were an itch in Gates' pants. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: Yes, but...nobody speaks Esperanto. Lots of people speak Esperanto. It's all relative. Compared to, say, Spanish? I'm one of them. Multaj homoj parolas Esperanton. Mi estas unu el ili. Very cool. Translation? -Dave --

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Larry Doolittle
Dave - On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:15:36PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: Lots of people speak Esperanto. It's all relative. Compared to, say, Spanish? I'm one of them. Multaj homoj parolas Esperanton. Mi estas unu el ili. Very cool. Translation? Come on, Dave. Pattern match. Multaj -

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Larry Doolittle wrote: Lots of people speak Esperanto. It's all relative. Compared to, say, Spanish? I'm one of them. Multaj homoj parolas Esperanton. Mi estas unu el ili. Very cool. Translation? Come on, Dave. Pattern match. Multaj - multiple(many)

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:31 -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: There is nothing worse than an optimised parser looping over memory with constructs like if (*i++ == '(') ... or some such. Is this why GTK apps tend to be so unbelievably bloated? I mean, I see (and like!) the value of such

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Ouabache Designworks
Oh bull. Lots of IDEs (and just plain text editors) do that just fine. There's *nothing* about software development of any kind that is unique to or first appeared in Microsoft Windows. -Dave

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread gedau
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 01:00:20PM +0200, Miguel S?nchez de Le?n Peque wrote: Hi all, I'm a student interested in contributing to gEDA and learn some C ;-). The biggest problem I find any time I start coding is how should I write this?. You're always talking about deprecated code,

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Jason
Ouabache Designworks wrote: Other than Bob and Clippy is there anything of any kind that is unique to or first appeared in Microsoft Windows? BSOD? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On Apr 23, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Jason wrote: Other than Bob and Clippy is there anything of any kind that is unique to or first appeared in Microsoft Windows? BSOD? Manufacturer-recommended periodic reboots to maintain stability? -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread Justas Poderys
Hello all, I am still relatively new to pcb (switching from Eagle). I am designing a board and need a ground pour. Everything works great out of the box, but I can't find what parameter increase spacing between tracks/pads and polygon? I have tried pressing 'k' but nothing happens. Do I need to

gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread D T
Hi, I have the feeling this has been a topic here already. Nevertheless, is there a way to pass parameters to а subckt for spice3f5/ngspice/gnucap in linux similar to what PSpice and LTSpice have? Gracias Vielen Dank Thank you Спа�ибо Merci

Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread DJ Delorie
Are you pressing 'k' over the tracks, or the polygon? 'k' affects whatever it's over, and polygon's don't have their own clearances. You can select all then :MinClearGap(Selected,=10,mil) if you want. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Friday 23 April 2010, D T wrote: Hi,I have the feeling this has been a topic here already. Nevertheless, is there a way to pass parameters to а subckt for spice3f5/ngspice/gnucap in linux similar to what PSpice and LTSpice have? Of course there is. Well .. not spice 3f5 but gnucap

Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:05:24 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: You can select all then :MinClearGap(Selected,=10,mil) if you want. I added this to the wiki http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_change_polygon_clearance ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Jim
Ouabache Designworks wrote: Oh bull. Lots of IDEs (and just plain text editors) do that just fine. There's *nothing* about software development of any kind that is unique to or first appeared in Microsoft Windows. -Dave

Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread DJ Delorie
I added this to the wiki http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_change_polygon_clearance I added the FAQ as a pop-up in PCB too :-) Perhaps we should get into the habit of putting these things in PCB, not just the wiki? Start popping up help pages instead of one-liners? Bizzare

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Jim
Dave McGuire wrote: On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Larry Doolittle wrote: Lots of people speak Esperanto. It's all relative. Compared to, say, Spanish? I'm one of them. Multaj homoj parolas Esperanton. Mi estas unu el ili. Very cool. Translation? Come on, Dave. Pattern match.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:14:44 -0300, Luis Palombo wrote: Well,, there are other configuration in PCB, it made me see other ( skin? ) graphical enviroment. ( its like XFCE) I remember, in one oportunity, have the same problem. The solution is one key combination. Maybe, you have seen the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread DJ Delorie
Maybe, you have seen the lesstif GUI of pcb. It looks kind of rough, but Not rough - it's clean :-) The lesstif GUI has a minimalist layout in order to maximize the amount of screen real estate that goes to the layout window. ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 19:36 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: You can't switch between GTK and lesstif during a session. Instead, the GUI has to be chosen at compile time. If you want to give lesstif a try, you have to grab the source, configure for lesstif and compile your local binary.

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Friday 23 April 2010, D T wrote: Thank you Al. Just for the record: ngspice worked; gnucap didn't. Details follow. The directions from the subckt section of the NGSPICE User Manual (http://ngspice.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/ngspic e/ngspice/ng-spice-manuals/manual.pdf?)

Re: gEDA-user: Matching footprints with symbols

2010-04-23 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
Armin Faltl wrote: Hello Vladimir, the point in not using a text file format for this but a relational database with SQL is not the data storage but the capabilities of the database server. It allows modeling of relations and more important, relational queries. This can look something

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Karl Hammar
Stefan Salewski: On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 19:36 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: You can't switch between GTK and lesstif during a session. Instead, the GUI has to be chosen at compile time. If you want to give lesstif a try, you have to grab the source, configure for lesstif and compile your

Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem

2010-04-23 Thread Link
On 22/04/10 16:09, al davis wrote: I find it somewhat ironic that penguindevelopment.org doesn't seem to understand the concept. Eh? I understand it perfectly well. The thing is, though, that sometimes it is simply not practical to use FLOSS when you need a feature right away that simply isn't

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Charles Lepple
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Jim j...@k4gvo.com wrote: I have yet to see anyone demonstrate the blue screen of death on Linux.  Black and white, yes but blue was unique. To be fair, it can be invoked on demand as part of xscreensaver. -- - Charles Lepple

Re: gEDA-user: PCB configuration skin

2010-04-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:45:23 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Not rough - it's clean I was relating to the non-antialiased font of the lesstif widget set. BTW, I just tried :benchmark() on one of my more complex layouts: pcb-gtk20091103 (debian/squeeze) -- 27 fps pcb-lesstif20091103

Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem

2010-04-23 Thread al davis
On Friday 23 April 2010, Link wrote: Eh? Suppose you had instead said: === .. I suggest using Eagle through Darwine. In my personal experience, Eagle is a lot better than geda, and it is definitely an easier workflow. === Is this any different? No.

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA programming

2010-04-23 Thread Steven Michalske
On Apr 23, 2010, at 6:47 AM, timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: just get used to typing gtk_ridiculously_long_function_names_with_lots_of_underscores() and wearing your keyboard out since not a single IDE under Lunix would have code complete or any other code editor improvements us Windows

Re: gEDA-user: passing parameters to a subckt

2010-04-23 Thread Andrzej
Hi Al, On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:50 AM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote: Get a newer version of gnucap. Do you have any plans for releasing the new version? If so, what would be its scope. I'm afraid that if it is going to include all the planned features (which are pretty ambitious, I