Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-30 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Armin Faltl armin.fa...@aon.at wrote: Yes and No. The number of practical orientations a board and part can have are very limited, but to check them, until now a human will be involved. True automation readines requires that you can feed the file into the

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-30 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Rick Collins gnuarm.2...@arius.com wrote: Trouble is that the machine doesn't know how the parts are oriented in the feeders. Rather than trust that the system works if they get each piece right, they manually run through an sample of each component type to

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-30 Thread Steven Michalske
On Sep 30, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Rick Collins gnuarm.2...@arius.com wrote: they manually run through an sample of each component type to make sure it is placed on the board right. That is all they care about and you only do this once for a given board. They call this setup and charge a

Re: gEDA-user: pcb-20100929 released

2010-09-30 Thread ineiev
Great! Now let me suggest some kind of Patchlevel 0. Most of these patches deal with well-known issues discussed on the list or on the tracker; some of them are years old. Of course, there are lots of more patches e.g. on the tracker; I just randomly picked some obvious ones that were not

Re: gEDA-user: pcb-20100929 released

2010-09-30 Thread DJ Delorie
I suggest we give this release a few weeks stress-test, then do another late October, focusing on bug fixes. I'd like to make it build for windows much easier too. After Oct 17th I'll have more time for it anyway. Perhaps frequent patch releases on this source base would make sense. Every 2-3

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-09-30 Thread Armin Faltl
Steven Michalske wrote: Would registration marks help with this? Three points forming approximately a 90 degree corner. Would give the ability to detect +x,+y I know our smt lines heavily depend on these marks. Steve I think registration marks help a lot. Attached you find my favourite

Re: gEDA-user: Zero length pins

2010-09-30 Thread John Doty
On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:25 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: One of the things that attracted me to gEDA years ago was how clean and concise the documentation was. Coincidently, some of the my most frustrating experiences with geda/pcb were due to a lack of readily available documentation ;-)