Stefan Salewski wrote:
And that is a real problem. gschem should really be able to to this
automatically when saving symbols.
IMHO, it should not. Every translation breaks instances of the symbol
in existing schematics.
A better solution would be the notion of an origin, similar to the
Bob Paddock wrote:
How will a human from the Book project know what is and what is not
spam in an esoteric area like gEDA/PCB?
Some of the authors _with_ background will keep an eye on it.
And no, these author are not necessarily us. That's the whole
point of the operation: Get more people
Stefan Salewski wrote:
Not always a low entry barrier is a real benefit.
Wikipedia beats each and every encyclopedic dictionary
in existance. Nupedia, with the same aim but higher barrier
produced less than 100 article were started of which a mere 24
passed the review process in the three
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
Now I'd like to save my ”new” symbol somewhere.
If you added the attribute in the schematics (the document
with the title block), you did not create a new symbol. You
just attached an attribute to an instance of the symbol.
To really change and save a symbol, you'd:
[1]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips?#how_do_i_edit_change_an_e
xisting_footprint
Not a very good tutorial and it does not tell me how to move the
positioning diamond.
How do I edit/change an existing footprint?
Copy selection to buffer ([ctrl-c]). The position of the
Den 2010-12-24 22:16:18 skrev Stephan Boettcher
boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de:
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes:
At http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial the following
is written:
”When all the edits are done, it's very important when editing symbols
to do a
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 09:17 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:
Stefan Salewski wrote:
And that is a real problem. gschem should really be able to to this
automatically when saving symbols.
IMHO, it should not. Every translation breaks instances of the symbol
in existing schematics.
A
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 09:50 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:
Stefan Salewski wrote:
Not always a low entry barrier is a real benefit.
Wikipedia beats each and every encyclopedic dictionary
in existance. Nupedia, with the same aim but higher barrier
produced less than 100 article were
On Dec 25, 2010, at 1:50 AM, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote:
Resistors are just one of many component types out there have a value, no
matter what type of package they come in
Resistors often don't come in packages. I use resistors in VLSI design, and
textbook symbolic abstractions of resistors
John:
...
When thinking bout documentation, please do take into account the effort
being done by people line Shaun McCance, to create a new help format for
gnome.
If it was for me, I'd leave out a dependency on gnome. Hopefully the format
is text based and there are readers for other widget
Stefan Salewski:
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 10:43 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote:
of making. But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
LaTeX is fine for a thesis and text books, with many formulas, intended
to be printed and viewed as PDF.
For other documentation more versatile formats
Russell:
...
I don't do latex, because not one sane person on any planet
can explain Tex. (yes, i've read all the tex manuals and have written
compiler tools)
Strange wording. I've not read the tex manuals and I can still produce
and be fluent with Latex.
About Tex, it's just an old macro
Kai-Martin:
...
I have to agree with timecop on this issue: The problem that
needs to be solved, is not connected to the file format. It
about finding authors.
Yes and no, contributors efforts have to be accepted also as you
have mentioned from time to time.
This is the big benefit of the
On 26/12/10 01:13, Karl Hammar wrote:
Russell:
...
I don't do latex, because not one sane person on any planet
can explain Tex. (yes, i've read all the tex manuals and have written
compiler tools)
Strange wording. I've not read the tex manuals and I can still produce
and be fluent with Latex.
My workshop got the go ahead, it's on Monday evening. I'm collecting
some details on the wiki page [1].
Would your workshop be a good place to meet existing gEDA users?
The workshop might be a bit low level for exiting gEDA users, but a meet
up after might be good. Also I plan on hanging out
Armin:
...
I know that a wiki book may have some advantages in the collaboration
of making. But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
Sending patches for TeX-files or chapters is a very simple process and
a pdf-book can be downloaded as a whole and read offline, printed.
That's what
Stephan:
Merry Christmas!
Thanks, Merry Christmas to youself!
...
=== Make elements small layouts ===
An element shall be defined as a small layout, same syntax, same
semantics. ...
That would be great.
=== Introduce the concept of classes/macros ===
A macro is a sub-layout ...
If a
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 16:06 +0100, Karl Hammar wrote:
If a macro is a sub-layout, why not just call it a sublayout.
COW ...
What is COW?
Copy On Write I would guess. (It is a common idea in operating system
internals).
Presumably the intention is just that an individual sub-instance
Happy Holidays, folks!
-Dave
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k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) writes:
Stephan:
Merry Christmas!
Thanks, Merry Christmas to youself!
...
=== Make elements small layouts ===
An element shall be defined as a small layout, same syntax, same
semantics. ...
That would be great.
=== Introduce the concept of
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk writes:
All ideas.. I'm not coding anything on this in the foreseeable future ;)
... but, somebody must code the graphics to support new features, e.g.,
dehilighting all objects that are not part of the currently edited
sublayout instances. :-)
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John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes:
Often, perhaps, but not usually. No matter how you slice it, the
most common way to use such a symbol and its corresponding physical
representation is as a component on a circuit board or in an IC.
Maybe for you.
Your opinion doesn't change the statistics.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:10:16 +0100
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de wrote:
Merry Christmas!
Same to you and to the community!
== PCB wishlist ==
The recent (and some not so recent) discussions made me think about
how development of PCB could proceed to solve some of the
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:14:27 +0100
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de wrote:
line layer=top ends=round 132 150 132 250 /line
I'd add a current netname to copper objects
line layer=top ends=round netname=GND 132 150 132 250 /line
Or something like this.
Levente
On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:49 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes:
Often, perhaps, but not usually. No matter how you slice it, the
most common way to use such a symbol and its corresponding physical
representation is as a component on a circuit board or in an IC.
Maybe
Hello,
I've tried everything I can think of to rotate a refdes in pcb, but I cannot
get it to work. I can rotate components just fine, and the refdes rotates with
it, but I just want to rotate the refdes and not the component. I've tried
selecting the only names option. Moving it is not a
Den 2010-12-25 20:59:14 skrev John Doty j...@noqsi.com:
On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:49 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
John Doty j...@noqsi.com writes:
Often, perhaps, but not usually. No matter how you slice it, the
most common way to use such a symbol and its corresponding physical
representation is
Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:14:27 +0100
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de wrote:
line layer=top ends=round 132 150 132 250 /line
I'd add a current netname to copper objects
line layer=top ends=round netname=GND 132 150 132 250 /line
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes:
Hm… I start to regret that I asked the question in the first place…
Please don't.
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Den 2010-12-25 22:12:40 skrev Stephan Boettcher
boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de:
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com writes:
Hm… I start to regret that I asked the question in the first place…
Please don't.
Well, I guess it's not regrettable anyway; the question is already asked
and
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year all.
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On Dec 25, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
Hm… I start to regret that I asked the question in the first place…
No need to regret it. It was a good question.
John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 22:07:16 +0100
Stephan Boettcher boettc...@physik.uni-kiel.de wrote:
This is fundamentally different from how PCB treats copper,
connectivity and netlist now, and restricts the flexifility of the
tool that results from how it works now. So, that would be a
separate set of
I see the need for something akin to a preferred default positioning, where
when a symbol is rotated there is a place where your prefer your attributes to
be placed.
Have geschem do the auto place template not part of the symbols at all
Steve
On Dec 25, 2010, at 4:48 PM, John Doty
There used to be a bug in older versions of pcb where you had to move the
component before you could manipulate the refdes. This also was helped by a
save and reopen of the pcb file.
On Dec 25, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Frank fhri...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've tried everything I can think of
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:20:03 +0100
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote:
It about finding authors.
I'm not entirely sure about that. I think there would be persons that
would be prepared to produce documents, if there were no necessity to
wade through the source code to detect what has
Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com writes:
The thing made post my previous message, is that it is very annoying when
unconnected line stays on PCB, and there is no chance to connect anything to
it. Even to the net it was formerly connected.
Well, that is a question of the HIDs, i.e.,
On Saturday 25 December 2010 14:59:14 John Doty wrote:
On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:49 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Yup, we're tyrants because we want to make it easier for 99% of our
users to get their jobs done.
But you aren't. A special purpose pcb-centric symbol/footprint library
would be a fine
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:20:03 +0100
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote:
It about finding authors.
I'm not entirely sure about that. I think there would be persons that
would be prepared to produce documents, if
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 09:23:17PM -0500, Mark wrote:
snip
So, because I use several methods, a single one-size-fits-all library is just
not going to work for me.
I *could* make use of a library of heavy symbols but I still need the
lightweight symbols, too. If I
was forced to choose
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