Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Clifton
either ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: help with pcb dsn plugin

2011-09-17 Thread Peter Clifton
with the file-format. The only issue we might have is what we call it - Specctra might be a trademarked name. -- Probably some other stuff. It appears to be working with some early tests, and freerouting.net is pretty awesome. Great! Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering

Re: gEDA-user: unconnected tracks

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 02:02 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: here comes the forgotten patch for more intuitive select and unselect menu items. If there are corresponding items in pcb-menu.res, it would be good to keep those in sync as we change gpcb-menu.res, otherwise - looks good. -- Peter

Re: gEDA-user: windows testers wanted

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
short-cuts (like a hidden or transparent IME window or something like that). Do other keyboard shortcuts work? - For example, does typing : bring up a command window - either in the status bar area of PCB, or as a separate window? Best regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division

Re: gEDA-user: windows testers wanted

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 13:06 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: As for the z / Z shortcuts, could you 1) Describe where those keys are on your keyboard? Are they the non-shifted, and shifted versions of the same physical button? Do you have to hold any other modifier keys? (Ignore this one

gEDA-user: Zoom bug on Windows

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Clifton
decimal point instead of comma */ FAIL ___^ The gschem commit in question was this: commit a78d166a1b57b80ff46e2ac98a14989b8af77c3e Author: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk Date: Tue Jan 19 23:11:36 2010 + Set the LC_NUMERIC locale to C

Re: gEDA-user: windows testers wanted

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:51 -0600, asom...@gmail.com wrote: v key when board is flipped: doesn't work (bug #841547) The build you tested missed the fix for that (not by much), but it ought to be fixed in tomorrow's build. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division

Re: gEDA-user: Another pcb segfault

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Clifton
any extra patches or configure options in place to get the asserts to be active? (I'm betting the fact that DJ and I didn't see the assert fail is only due to the fact that we're using the default build settings). Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department

Re: gEDA-user: trcing with pcb design

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Clifton
would be easier to deal with than just throwing an extracted netlist back at the schematic editor. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0

Re: gEDA-user: cygwin geda tools

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Clifton
(which is in minipack), which drops all gschem's old printing code in favour for cairo printing - which works on Windows. PCB cannot print using cairo, and I have no immediate plans to work on that - sorry. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-11 Thread Peter Clifton
-Dynamics-Approach-Dean-Karnopp/dp/0471459402 Cool, that looks interesting. I look forward to hearing how you progress with this. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-10 Thread Peter Clifton
? Its not a concept I've come across before. Do you have a simple reference as to where (and how) they are used? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-10 Thread Peter Clifton
style manuscript ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: Electromagnetic bike

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Clifton
you couldn't use the disk brake, so I hope the whole assembly is going to be stationary ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Clifton
gschem - then found I had ALREADY DONE THIS back in January! commit 1c531ec953bb3a7fe895eafc65c3d4f85c2603c6 Author: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk Date: Sat Jan 15 13:45:08 2011 + gschem: Delete Edit-Make Inv Text Vis menu item This menu item trips up more people than it helps

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Clifton
the 0-ohm resistors at least), have hit the above mentioned bug. Rather than build from a release tarball, you might prefer to grab git HEAD and test with that. git clone git://git.gpleda.org/gaf.git We've been a bit tardy with making releases of our latest and greatest code. -- Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
? Could anyone shed some light please? I think it is a known issue that you can't place nets (wires) inside symbols - only pins, attributes and graphical elements. Other than that - I'm not sure what issue you might be running into. Regards, -- Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk signature.asc

Re: gEDA-user: Wire-only Symbols - Netlist problems

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
isn't supported. -- Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
the display mode to show invisible text, but “ev” actually changes the entities. For my money, we could kill ev and its menu item completely. I don't think it serves any useful purpose, and has caused me many a headache. -- Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: gEDA-user: why some skip KiCAD and gEDA

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Clifton
-deselect))) ; finally set the keymap point to the newly created datastructure (define current-keymap global-keymap) Notice there are plenty of single-key bindings there already, for example, the group at the bottom. Hope that helps, -- Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:42 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: Each time I save my layout, a message appears: layout changed. Do you want to load it? or something like that. Brr well of couse it changed! I saved it! :-) Ok, I know it is a good feature... Yes - it turns out that my code

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
, and it seems to work. No doubt someone will find me a corner case where it is broken though :( Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel

Re: gEDA-user: time for a pcb release cycle?

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 22:47 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 10:56 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: How about this for a solution: 1. When saving to disk, don't disconnect/reconnect the file watch, just leave it connected. However, ignore any file modification

Re: gEDA-user: CERN goes for KiCAD

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Clifton
move if we want them to reconsider after they have tried KiCAD. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
support would be awesome. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: David Jones - EEVBlog on Open Hardware

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 03:37 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: gEDA and KiCAD get a mention ;) http://www.eevblog.com/2011/08/12/eevblog-195-open-source-hardware-explained/ About what point in time? Sorry - can't recall. He mentions the opinions on open CAD tools

Re: gEDA-user: test repo

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
that development work ;) (Seriously). Best wishes. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 10:38 -0700, Steven Michalske wrote: On Sep 5, 2011, at 9:34 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Er, what gtk do the Mac builds use? Macports is at 2.24.5 Fink is at 2.18.9 Homebrew is at 2.24.6 Do you happen to know if there are any builds of GTK 3.0 out there yet? -- Peter

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
on IRC earlier, and we have a consensus that bumping the version requirement to GTK 2.18 is OK. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 21:55 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Looking at where I hooked up my code, I have hooked it up in a stupid place - the file monitoring is cancelled and re-wired every time PCB handles a menu action! It probably needs to hook up so it is only called upon the PCBChanged

gEDA-user: David Jones - EEVBlog on Open Hardware

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Clifton
gEDA and KiCAD get a mention ;) http://www.eevblog.com/2011/08/12/eevblog-195-open-source-hardware-explained/ -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Clifton
in PCB ;) -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: Fwd: Re: [OH Updates] How can you help solve the proprietary tool problem?

2011-09-02 Thread Peter Clifton
by moderation? (If so - just what kind of emails are you sending? ;)). -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-02 Thread Peter Clifton
-style to one net much more practical. You (and the auto-router) wouldn't have to switch styles when switching layers etc.. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 09:13 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 02:01:34 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Not a complete fix Peter, thanks for fixing it! Sorry I broke it in the first place! I was almost certain it was broken before I wrote that patch (where I

Re: gEDA-user: pcb gtk: Toggle buttons for route styles?

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Clifton
resistant to change. Throwing out a crazy idea.. in word-processors etc.., styles are found in a drop-down combo-box. I know that doesn't fit so well with where we have space for the route-style selector, but just a crazy though. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
object selection) seem to care. Perhaps the easier option would be to contractually ban the core from assigning layer visibilities. That would mean banning or moving some of the misc.c APIs which touch that. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
2.16 and onwards. (From a quick scan of the git repository, GTK 2.16 requires at least GLIB 2.19.7). Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
. These are completely different (boy this code sucks). (Oh yea, that is ugly!) I felt sure I'd re-written this because it was ugly before now. I really shudder to think the above was what _I_ came up with to fix it being ugly. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 00:56 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 14:00 +0200, Kovacs Levente wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:01:00 -0700 Andrew Poelstra as...@sfu.ca wrote: Fixed in git head. Thanks! Maybe I can see why the automatic layer (group) change doesn't work

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
revert. Gah, PLEASE NO. Just stick with the Gnome HIG specification and be done with it. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
it (at least partially).. I'll fix the bit I broke. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
the same schematic accidentally open twice by accident - for example. A warning when the file changes underneath me could be a huge bonus to know I need to _think_ before I save. More usefully, it would also make working between gschem and gattrib easier. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-31 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 01:46 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Yes - I did break it (at least partially).. I'll fix the bit I broke. Not a complete fix, but: commit acbf10c2bf1814c5ffbe13dbcfd03fc9ffcaca89 Author: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk Commit: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk hid/gtk

Re: gEDA-user: timestamps in pcb.git

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
with a bad time-stamp. Is it possible your computer clock is (or was) set wrong? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared

Re: gEDA-user: revert vs reload

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-29 Thread Peter Clifton
/gui-top-window.c | 1235 - src/hid/gtk/gui.h | 14 +- 10 files changed, 1001 insertions(+), 1331 deletions(-) That is my kind of diffstat ;) New functionality, less lines. Awesome. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Clifton
not updated the pours branch in a while. Both of those need work on the drawing APIs, which I've not sorted out yet. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Clifton
procrastinating that, as finding the right way is hard. The idea is that any changes here would make it easier to slot in the new renderer. It is side-effects of those changes which are currently breaking some aspects of postscript (and perhaps other) output in my PCB+GL branches though. -- Peter

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 06:23 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 03:21 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: Hey all, The new gtk layer selector is finished for most uses now. If you want to play with it before it's ready to be published (which is a few days away still), you can

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 05:52 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:28:09AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: A few nits when I tested it. (And not just looked at the screenshots).. 1. PCB crashes immediately on startup for me: UPDATE COLORS Program received signal

Re: gEDA-user: New layer selector to play with (git preview)

2011-08-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 06:01 -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:28:09AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: A few nits when I tested it. (And not just looked at the screenshots).. 1. PCB crashes immediately on startup for me: 2. It should not be printing debug text

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 01:42 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: Even conversion of old legacy Altium designs could be done given access ^ Is this a serious restriction? Would it be possible for a user of a current altium license

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:01 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: Unpacking the container format, separating out individual footprints from a library, identifying most of the binary record types within those footprints. It would take time and examples to verify we can know

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 22:14 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 15:01 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: Unpacking the container format, separating out individual footprints from a library, identifying most of the binary record types within those

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
mode in GIMP. I've been using it since it was first out in the gimp devel PPA, and it is superb. You can still undock things as you want, but it stops the damned floaty tool-palettes getting all over the place and either lost, or in your way. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Clifton
card capable of driving them is not though.. and it needs to have working GL drivers under Linux too ;) (I'm limited by my laptop, so just 1 or 2 monitors here). -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3

Re: gEDA-user: Foss-pcb Proposed plan from CERN

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
is a lack of my time. The formats aren't so bad to understand once you've had some luck figuring out the binary compression scheme. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173

Re: gEDA-user: viewing side vs. layers

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
it, but I can't seem to find it now. I never did figure out whether the bug was in the original logic or not, but I know roughly where to look to start fixing it. (I came across that code recently when looking at refactoring the view-port change APIs in the GTK HID). -- Peter Clifton Electrical

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
might be nice here. Thinking of some nice signal displaying software I use at work, it has Hide all waveforms below Hide all waveforms above as well. Those might also be useful options for a layer to have. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
as it turned out), caused by the page auto-save code! -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask

Re: gEDA-user: How to do PCB Autorouting with non-plated holes

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
{ i = my_group_number; ... } while (0); /* NB: The loop body will still execute once */ Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal

Re: gEDA-user: gschem crash on object drag

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
, but is excellent at nailing the root cause of memory corruption problems which lead to crashes. Again - checking if you can reproduce the issue under a later gschem version is probably the most efficient way to proceed. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department

Re: gEDA-user: pcb HID GUI options: gtk, lesstif?

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Clifton
did a quick proof-of concept test to make sure it was feasible, but at this stage the code isn't perfectly factored out). Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds - summary

2011-08-20 Thread Peter Clifton
distinction here, so it shouldn't trip people up _that_ much if we don't differentiate them. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Clifton
was originally the GIMP TOOL KIT, it seems sad that they have to go to such lengths to implement basic functionality. If we are really keen on the behaviour described - perhaps we could implement our own widget for it too. Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering

gEDA-user: PCB+GL rebased to git HEAD (with nanometers)

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Clifton
regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: Layer button backgrounds

2011-08-19 Thread Peter Clifton
layers within them. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: Nanometer conversion pushed to git head

2011-08-16 Thread Peter Clifton
on this over the last month or two. Your efforts are much appreciated. As soon as I get a chance, I'll try running it on some real production board data to verify things look the same. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge

Re: gEDA-user: personal component library frustration-HELP/suggestions please?

2011-08-16 Thread Peter Clifton
that nasty bug that occurs when a footprint name contains a hyphen character (-). Which is now fixed anyway. Disadvantages of using skip-m4: - Can't use your own custom m4 footprints directly? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-15 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 00:06 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: If the problem only applies to me then could You please give me some tips what to check? I can reproduce it. For some reason I can't. I get silk on the far side displayed in grey as expected. Last

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Clifton
, If the problem only applies to me then could You please give me some tips what to check? I can reproduce it. I'm not quite sure why I never noticed it before! I'll see if I can get it fixed and ping the list back when I have done so. Thanks! -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Clifton
to helped focus the development effort. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-14 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 22:57 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 08:44 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Normally components that are on the far side are drawn with grey colour, but now I can see only pins, SMD pads (drown as expected in grey) but no silk screen. The layout

Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread Peter Clifton
. I've tried to fix it modifying src/draw.c but no success, now far side is drawn on top :-). If I can reproduce it, I'll try to get it fixed. I've not noticed it myself, but then I probably haven't been working on boards which had back-silk recently. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical

Re: gEDA-user: Constraint-based PCB footprint design

2011-08-08 Thread Peter Clifton
this tool. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Clifton
state. It creates more grief than joy. Agreed (having used it myself for a while now) - it needs revision before it is ready for prime-time. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Clifton
___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 09:04 +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:15:17AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote on the other list where mere users are not allowed to post: If no-one has any objection, I will remove the code which warps the mouse

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 02:44 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote in the other mailinglist where mere users are not allowed to post: How about the attached patch? GTK HID, GL implementation only at the moment (GDK renderer won't build with this patch - sorry

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 01:37 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: adding a feature for snapping to off-grid points along the body of a track. Sounds good, but I don't quite understand the details. Where exactly are these points? Try it and you will see ;) Basically

Re: gEDA-user: Recap of remaining metric-conversion work

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
not want to change this, so I internationalized all the units. Yuck - never mind. We could change it to not translate, but since you've gone to the trouble of making it work, I don't see why we should. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University

Re: gEDA-user: Recap of remaining metric-conversion work

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
coordinate conversion for the GTK HID though, and that could potentially conflict a bit. I'm trying to use the new types where applicable though - so I hope resolving the conflicts should just be a matter of checking whether I did anything stupid with my changes. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 20:23 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote: Try it and you will see ;) Now, that I tried a bit more, I see room for improvement :-) Currently the cross hair snaps to lines on all layers. It should perhaps be a stronger snap on the layer you

Re: gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
changing its angle? -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description

Re: gEDA-user: Warp pointer nonesense

2011-07-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 01:15 +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Peter Clifton wrote on the other list where mere users are not allowed to post: My objection: I use regularily this feature to locate nets. It would be a regression if it were removed without a replacement. Yes, it is less than

Re: gEDA-user: Recap of remaining metric-conversion work

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Clifton
, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Clifton
on different grids. It might be possible to implement this more intelligently in a mode-specific way, but for now, the solution I came up with seems to be fairly effective. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ

gEDA-user: New line-snapping feature for PCB - please try it!

2011-07-23 Thread Peter Clifton
on different grids. It might be possible to implement this more intelligently in a mode-specific way, but for now, the solution I came up with seems to be fairly effective. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Draft documentation for Scheme API

2011-06-27 Thread Peter Clifton
, the API is really nice too. I've not had much time for doing any gEDA stuff recently, but I look forward to seeing more of this when it lands. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA

Re: gEDA-user: trcing with pcb design

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 12:56 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Yes, you need to specify a background PPM image. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/bg-image.html It should load PNG fine as well... (certainly the GTK HID can), and probably other formats supported by gdkpixbuf, such as JPEG. -- Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: Blog post: Porting gEDA to Guile 2.0, and future plans

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
but depends on completely deprecated widgets or is generally hateful - write it again from scratch. The aim should not really be to hack hack hack until we just compile with GTK 3.0, but to do a complete UI review - focusing on the most legacy code first. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering

Re: gEDA-user: PCB head fails with ***MEMORY-ERROR***

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Clifton
think the macro loops should ideally be used for read-only access to the data-structures only. I thought I was being clever (and more robust against problems) by adding the g_list_copy (), but obviously I had not taken care of the clean-up correctly. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical

Re: gEDA-user: Two things ... or actually, three

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Clifton
was introduced. Either way, I can't really comment - other than it looked ok when I gave it a cursory testing. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab

Re: gEDA-user: Two things ... or actually, three

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Clifton
(and are able / willing to do so), send me a tarball with the design you're having problems with and I'll see what I can do. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-30 Thread Peter Clifton
) edited boards sooner rather than later. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-29 Thread Peter Clifton
that can be rasterized? Think i know now. Polygons can't have edges that cross other edges. You got it.. PCB doesn't allow self intersecting polygons, so I removed support for rendering them in an attempt to manage the complexity (and hopefully improve speed of) the tessellator. -- Peter Clifton

Re: gEDA-user: Two things ... or actually, three

2011-05-27 Thread Peter Clifton
a default-on option, but if it is not switched on, then xgsch2pcb will not work. git HEAD defaults to --enable-dbus being on. There is also a new File - Import Schematics option which DJ produced, which you might like to look at as an alternative to xgsch2pcb. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering

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