Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem

2010-04-29 Thread Russell Shaw
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Dave McGuire wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:40 PM, John Doty wrote: Well, you started out complaining about a 741 model. I'd call that a very rare, obsolete part: I haven't actually seen one in a circuit in over 30 years. I guess it's still in

Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI

2010-08-05 Thread Russell Shaw
Andrew Poelstra wrote: I've been learning the code base and testing out new ideas, and it looks like I'll have to change the base HID code to support layer groups. So there's some more design work to run by you guys before I can do any real work: My vision is this: the current drawing area will

Re: gEDA-user: new footprint guidelines

2010-10-06 Thread Russell Shaw
John Doty wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Rick Collins wrote: Oh, I almost forgot, NEVER ask a PhD anything to design PCBs. What the heck are you thinking??? Speaking as a physicist, let me comment. 1. Learning to do a variety of engineering tasks is an important part of an experimental

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-19 Thread Russell Shaw
On 20/11/10 10:02, Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 13:06 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: That suits me just fine.. OpenGL _likes_ rendering triangles, and any other geometry primitives are extra work to implement ;) But wouldn't support for higher-level shapes be superior to

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-19 Thread Russell Shaw
On 20/11/10 11:43, kai-martin knaak wrote: John Griessen wrote: STL seems to work fine for those shapes - your tool just chooses triangles that are long and skinny to accurately model the side of a cylinder for instance. ... and the file size explodes. If the wires of thru hole components

Re: gEDA-user: Small patch to aid use of lib dmalloc

2010-12-06 Thread Russell Shaw
On 07/12/10 11:55, Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 00:48 +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 10:04 +1100, Stephen Ecob wrote: Dropping the (a) ? (a) : 1 foolishness would be cleaner, but could expose latent bugs in the 71 callers of the mymem allocators. I'm happy to

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ?

2010-12-25 Thread Russell Shaw
On 26/12/10 01:13, Karl Hammar wrote: Russell: ... I don't do latex, because not one sane person on any planet can explain Tex. (yes, i've read all the tex manuals and have written compiler tools) Strange wording. I've not read the tex manuals and I can still produce and be fluent with Latex.

gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-16 Thread Russell Shaw
On 11/09/10 07:59, Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 14:16 -0400, Windell H. Oskay wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:31:48AM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: PS.. have you tried any of the GL stuff? http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/trans_poly.png

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-16 Thread Russell Shaw
On 16/05/11 19:26, Peter Clifton wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 15:54 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: From pcjc2/src/borast/borast-bentley-ottmann.c, i used some functions to make a small test program to see how bo_contour_to_traps() works. The code is mostly stolen from cairo, then stripped

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-16 Thread Russell Shaw
On 16/05/11 19:26, Peter Clifton wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 15:54 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: From pcjc2/src/borast/borast-bentley-ottmann.c, i used some functions to make a small test program to see how bo_contour_to_traps() works. The code is mostly stolen from cairo, then stripped

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 17/05/11 02:44, DJ Delorie wrote: I've always been interested in CAD programs and thought of making a schematic/pcb one from scratch. I've never truly understood why people would rewrite a (potentially) huge application set just because. Why not start with the existing tools and just

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 17/05/11 22:31, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 20:36 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: On 17/05/11 02:44, DJ Delorie wrote: Hi, A schematic/pcb editor is not huge unless it's done in an inelegant way. A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 17/05/11 22:40, John Doty wrote: On May 17, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Russell Shaw wrote: Hi, A schematic/pcb editor is not huge unless it's done in an inelegant way. A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol and footprint in the schematic/pcb library, and make

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 17/05/11 23:43, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:35 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: I was expert at using high-end HP DCS/PCDS on unix boxes 20 years ago before it got discontinued, and a few other cad systems since then. A very first task i would do is create a decent gui

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 00:15, John Doty wrote: On May 17, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Russell Shaw wrote: A well-stocked workshop is nothing more than a multitool workshop. With that attitude, you'll botch the job. There's no reason why a schematic and pcb editor can't have tight coupling and still interact

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 00:30, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail at what currently exists. Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you? Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 00:30, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail at what currently exists. Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you? Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 00:30, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail at what currently exists. Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you? Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 01:41, John Doty wrote: On May 17, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Russell Shaw wrote: It seems like too much redundancy to have two projects with similar uses (which i wouldn't like), and i don't like forking either. But your vision is an integrated tool, while gEDA is a toolkit. I'm

Re: gEDA-user: Unsubscribing from the list

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 02:01, Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi folks, It's no longer a worthwhile use of my time to monitor this list, due to the excessively low signal-to-noise ratio. I'm therefore unsubscribing from it for the time being. I will continue to monitor the gEDA-bug and gEDA-dev mailing lists. If

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-18 Thread Russell Shaw
On 17/05/2011, John Dotyj...@noqsi.com wrote: On May 17, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Russell Shaw wrote: Most guis hide what they do. I believe in them showing the commands they send internally as a script would (or atleast have the option to show that) so the user can paste the commands

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-18 Thread Russell Shaw
On 18/05/11 12:28, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Russell Shaw wrote: The problem with KiCAD is 1) C++, 2) Qt. The problems I encountered with gnetlist were 1) scheme I think Scheme could be made much more attractive in geda if it was adequately explained in documentation or a tutorial. I

Re: gEDA-user: Reinventing the wheel

2011-05-18 Thread Russell Shaw
On 19/05/11 02:13, DJ Delorie wrote: I'm a gtk hater, and am open to new widget toolkit user interface paradigms, So, you build pcb with --enable-gui=lesstif ? ;-) I do it with gtk whenever i want to poke at it. I know how gtk works, but it's far too convoluted and burdensome for

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-28 Thread Russell Shaw
On 16/05/11 22:59, Russell Shaw wrote: On 16/05/11 19:26, Peter Clifton wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 15:54 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: From pcjc2/src/borast/borast-bentley-ottmann.c, i used some functions to make a small test program to see how bo_contour_to_traps() works. The code is mostly

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-28 Thread Russell Shaw
On 29/05/11 00:46, Russell Shaw wrote: On 16/05/11 22:59, Russell Shaw wrote: On 16/05/11 19:26, Peter Clifton wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 15:54 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: From pcjc2/src/borast/borast-bentley-ottmann.c, i used some functions to make a small test program to see how

Re: gEDA-user: pcjc2 tessellation

2011-05-29 Thread Russell Shaw
On 29/05/11 23:30, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 11:37 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: Hi, In _borast_bentley_ottmann_tessellate_bo_edges() which is from _cairo_bentley_ottmann_tessellate_bo_edges(), i see you deleted case CAIRO_BO_EVENT_TYPE_INTERSECTION: What effect does this have