Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Niclas Hedhmannic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Millerkevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: ... What would be the benefit for the Aries community of developing these spec implementations at Felix? Ideally, you have more people taking care

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-04 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Leo Simonsm...@leosimons.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Todd Volkerttvolk...@gmail.com wrote:   The LICENSE file does not contain the full CCA LICENSE for the Silk   icons; see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode for   the full

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-04 Thread Todd Volkert
Makes sense. I'll call off the vote and re-tag. I'll send another heads up when the podling voting starts on the RC3 candidate. Thanks everyone, especially Sebb, for your attention, -T

[Cancelled] ([VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2)

2009-09-04 Thread Todd Volkert
This vote is being cancelled due to an issue found with the CCL license in the LICENSE file.

[IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Improved Http Service

2009-09-04 Thread Felix Meschberger
Hi, The Apache Felix project has received a contribution of an Improved OSGi HttpService implementation * The code is attached to the FELIX-1456 JIRA issue [1] * The IP Clearance form has been committed to the Incubator website. [2] * A vote has passed on the d...@felix mailing list [3] The

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 07:50, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Millerkevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: So, let's assume that one or more OSGi spec implementations are a core part of Aries -- with specific features/customization for Aries.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread davidb
Being a fan and a regular contributor of Felix I still don't see why Felix should have the monopoly on OSGi spec implementations. If there is a group of people who would like to build a community *specifically* around enterprise OSGi components, then why not let them do that? If some of these

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
There are a few things I don't understand well. I thought the ASF over the past years was trying to discourage umbrella projects. I also thought that overlap between the projects was indeed accepted (we already have multiple JAX-WS or JAX-RS implementations in various TLPs / podlings). That

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Stuart McCulloch
2009/9/4 Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 07:50, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Millerkevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: So, let's assume that one or more OSGi spec implementations are a core part of Aries -- with

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Pauls
Let me point out one more time: Nobody is talking about Aries as a Felix incubator project. We are only talking about the OSGi EE spec implementations that are part of the proposed Aries scope. I'd be more then happy to see the rest of the proposal (namely, to explore how to build an enterprise

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Charters
Having read all the discussions, I still have concerns about the suggestion to put all OSGi spec implementation under Felix. I don't see this approach being taken for other specification organizations (JCP, OASIS, etc.) and I think that is to the benefit of Apache. For example, whilst a goal of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
For things that come from ServiceMix, I think the story is really different. ServiceMix TLP charter is the following: an extensible messaging bus for service integration, mediation and composition and its related components. So clearly, Karaf, as an enhanced OSGi runtime distribution, does

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Fri September 4 2009 9:27:23 am Graham Charters wrote: Having read all the discussions, I still have concerns about the suggestion to put all OSGi spec implementation under Felix. I don't see this approach being taken for other specification organizations (JCP, OASIS, etc.) and I think

[VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.1-BETA2

2009-09-04 Thread Paul Lindner
Greetings, The shindig community has voted on and approved a proposal to release 1.1-BETA2. The next step is approval by the Incubator PMC to publish this release. The summary is attached below. Note that we did have to respin the release twice due to issues with checksums. Artifacts are here:

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Improved Http Service

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
We need the software grant on file for this, did I miss it? - richard On 9/4/09 7:25, Felix Meschberger wrote: Hi, The Apache Felix project has received a contribution of an Improved OSGi HttpService implementation * The code is attached to the FELIX-1456 JIRA issue [1] * The IP Clearance

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me as well. Just to reiterate one more point, As with any other podling, the destination of this podling is determined *when* we graduate. If there is enough help/guidance/participation from folks on d...@felix to the podling, then the podling will naturally gravitate towards becoming a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Pauls
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Daniel Kulpdk...@apache.org wrote: On Fri September 4 2009 9:27:23 am Graham Charters wrote: Having read all the discussions, I still have concerns about the suggestion to put all OSGi spec implementation under Felix.  I don't see this approach being taken for

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/4/09 9:05, Daniel Kulp wrote: As a point of note, not all OSGi spec implementations live in Felix even at Apache today. The Remote Services/Distributed OSGi reference implementation is a sub project of CXF. I think Tuscany has an implementation as well. So far, there hasn't been any

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Richard, On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it would be nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi users and OSGi experts who are very active and receptive, many of whom also work in the EE space.

Re: [VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc1

2009-09-04 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote: The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache Cassandra 0.4.0-rc1. We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release. +1 from me. Matthieu Cassandra is a massively

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Richard, On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it would be nice if the spec impls started there since we have a community of OSGi users and OSGi experts who are very active and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Pauls
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Richard S. Hallhe...@ungoverned.org wrote: On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Richard, On 09/04/2009 03:49 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: So, no, I am not saying everything should, but in general, it would be nice if the spec impls started there since we

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Richard, I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks. One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not being able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling) thanks, dims On 09/04/2009 04:31 PM,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Let me clarify why i asked that question, When we started the Wink Podling there was strong recommendation that the incoming folks should work under CXF which already has a JAX-RS implementation. Once we did start the podling we have had guidance from just Dan Kulp from CXF and not from anyone

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/4/09 16:49, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Richard, I see your viewpoint better now. Thanks. One more question, Will there be a problem of folks on d...@felix not being able or willing to participate in a new podling? (If the folks presenting this proposal do wish to start off as a podling)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-04 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Richard S. Hallhe...@ungoverned.org wrote: On 9/4/09 16:10, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Choices are 1) Podling - TLP 2) Podling - Felix Sub project 3) Podling - Felix Sub project - TLP 4) Felix Sub project 5) Felix Sub project - TLP So, why should we bypass