Re: Resigning as Wookie Mentor

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Wilson
Hi Gav, You've done a heck of a lot more than sort out license headers! In particular when we first entered the incubator there were so many things you did to help us get our act together. So thanks for all your help and input as a Wookie mentor, I really appreciate all that you've done for

Re: [VOTE] Release Bean Validation 0.2-incubating RC2

2010-08-18 Thread ant elder
Looks good to me too, i can't see anything at all to comment on. +1 ...ant On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Kevan Miller kevan.mil...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Signature/checksums, build, source (RAT), and general snooping around with emacs all looked good. Thanks Donald! --kevan On Aug

Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Ross Gardler
Over on the Clerezza project I've been asked some advice about a legal situation that I'm not 100% sure about, I'm pretty sure it's a simple case so I'm asking the IPMC rather than legal-discuss@ In short: - there is a few files that are part of an existing FOAF+SSL certification project

Re: Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Benson Margulies
My understanding is that for a 'category A' license like BSD you just add it to NOTICES. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Over on the Clerezza project I've been asked some advice about a legal situation that I'm not 100% sure about, I'm pretty sure it's a

Re: Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
BSD license as in with advertising clause or as in new BSD license without advertising clause? IANAL, but my impression is that the reply depends on that. Jochen On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Over on the Clerezza project I've been asked some advice

[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Bean Validation 0.2-incubating RC2

2010-08-18 Thread Donald Woods
The vote passes with the following four binding +1 IPMC votes : Donald Woods, Kevan Miller, Ant Elder, Mark Struberg and the following four non-binding PPMC +1 votes: Carlos Vara, Simone Tripodi, Gerhard Petracek, Jeremy Bauer There were no 0 or -1 votes. Thanks, Donald On 8/13/10 1:38

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-18 Thread Carl Trieloff
On 08/17/2010 07:48 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 17/08/2010 17:35, Carl Trieloff wrote: To this question, (what will make this model succeed or fail) I find myself not coming to defensible answers... I would love to see thoughts of others on this question. The thread implies it comes down to

Re: Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm sure I read the rules for this on some ASF web page only a week or so ago ... On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: On 18/08/2010 13:59, Benson Margulies wrote: My understanding is that for a 'category A' license like BSD you just add it to NOTICES.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel Kulp
[ X ] +1 - Recommend graduation of Apache Shiro as a TLP Congrats to everyone. (the remaining issues that are being improperly discussed on this VOTE thread are minor and not a blocker, IMO) Dan On Monday 16 August 2010 2:18:22 pm Kalle Korhonen wrote: The Apache Shiro community and the

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-18 Thread Ross Gardler
On 18/08/2010 14:25, Carl Trieloff wrote: On 08/17/2010 07:48 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 17/08/2010 17:35, Carl Trieloff wrote: To this question, (what will make this model succeed or fail) I find myself not coming to defensible answers... I would love to see thoughts of others on this

Re: Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Bruno Harbulot
Hi, On 18/08/2010 14:23, Ross Gardler wrote: On 18/08/2010 13:59, Benson Margulies wrote: My understanding is that for a 'category A' license like BSD you just add it to NOTICES. Sure, but what about the licence headers? I think I've seen this done in a few projects (I think one of them

Re: Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Benson Margulies
http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Bruno Harbulot bruno.harbu...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: Hi, On 18/08/2010 14:23, Ross Gardler wrote: On 18/08/2010 13:59, Benson Margulies wrote: My understanding is that for a 'category A' license like BSD you

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-18 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Do you think this requires a formal IPMC vote or can we just do it? Thankfully, I think most of our mailing lists, etc. are already generic, so we shouldn't really need to change much in terms of branding other than the primary website. On Aug 16, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP

2010-08-18 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 Yay! Regards, Alan On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: The Apache Shiro community and the mentors of the project think the project is ready to graduate and is asking for IPMC's recommendation to present the project resolution to the board. The community graduation vote

Re: Need some clarity on a small size code donation

2010-08-18 Thread Nick Kew
On 18 Aug 2010, at 13:59, Benson Margulies wrote: My understanding is that for a 'category A' license like BSD you just add it to NOTICES. Indeed. We have precedent on bundling of third-party code, such as expat and pcre. -- Nick Kew

Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP

2010-08-18 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Kalle Korhonen kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote: Fixed both issues Sebb raised. I doubt either was an impediment to graduation, but keep 'em coming. Oh and the votes too! (I fear our little vote will get lost in experiment/radical chat). I just published the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Shiro graduation as TLP

2010-08-18 Thread Les Hazlewood
Thanks so much Niall for both the vote and the svn commit! Les On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Kalle Korhonen kalle.o.korho...@gmail.com wrote: Fixed both issues Sebb raised. I doubt either was an impediment to

Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)

2010-08-18 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken aback that the board is expected to follow the terminology used by only one project. Really? The board, which has used the same terms for 10++

Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)

2010-08-18 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 18:02, Sanjiva Weerawarana sanj...@opensource.lk wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken aback that the board is expected to follow the terminology used by

Re: Subversion full/partial committer (was: Re: an experiment)

2010-08-18 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 18:02, Sanjiva Weerawarana sanj...@opensource.lk wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: When I saw this month's board report for Subversion, I was taken

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. - Original Message From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 -- dims Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. - Original

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/10 23:11, Joe Schaefer wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. I know I've been quite here, but I've been

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. - Original Message From: Joe

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Greg Stein
To further expand on this comment: The Board said that PMCs can make their own rules on how committership is granted. The Board has no opinion on what the Incubator wants to do with this topic because that choice is and has always been delegated to the PMC. This is a consensus opinion of the

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Greg Stein
+1 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 13:44, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: I have come to the realization that I'm not going to convince Noel to see things my way any time soon, so I'd like to now ask for a formal majority consensus vote on relaxed rules for the 3 aforementioned projects.

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Joe, +1 from me. Thanks for sticking with this. Cheers, Chris On 8/18/10 4:11 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration.

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Tim Williams
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. +1, happy experimenting! --tim

Re: REMINDER: Reports due *NOW* -- HISE and SIS, where are you?

2010-08-18 Thread David Crossley
Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: Actually, speaking of which too, Noel, since I'm on the Incubator PMC, please add me as a mentor for SIS now too. I'll add myself as a mentor to the SIS proposal on the wiki as well, but can someone please add me to the other appropriate areas (or tell me how

Re: REMINDER: Reports due *NOW* -- HISE and SIS, where are you?

2010-08-18 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi David, Thanks! Cheers, Chris On 8/18/10 5:50 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: Actually, speaking of which too, Noel, since I'm on the Incubator PMC, please add me as a mentor for SIS now too. I'll add myself as a mentor to the SIS proposal

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 Dan On Wednesday 18 August 2010 7:11:39 pm Joe Schaefer wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. - Original Message From: Joe Schaefer

RE: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Greg Stein wrote: The Board said that PMCs can make their own rules on how committership is granted. The Board has no opinion on what the Incubator wants to do with this topic because that choice is and has always been delegated to the PMC. This is a consensus opinion of the Board, as no

RE: Radical revamp

2010-08-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ross Gardler wrote: For me success or failure comes down to the quality of the mentoring and the willingness of the project committers to learn how to apply the Apache Way to their community. +1 --- Noel - To

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2010-08-19, Joe Schaefer wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. - Original Message From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Specifically, for thrift, sis, and esme, I wish to remove the

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[Request] NPanday Podling

2010-08-18 Thread Josimpson Ocaba
Hi Everyone, First off I would like to thank everyone for voting on NPanday to be in the incubator. We already have our mailing lists setup @ * for NPanday usage questions; npanday-us...@incubator.apache.org (subscribe by posting to npanday-users-subscr...@incubator.apache.org) * for