Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500: On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote: Bertrand, I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that they generally enforce this. All I'm saying is this shouldn't be a must requirement, rather it should be a shall and we

[VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

2011-02-11 Thread Nick Burch
Hi All The Chemistry podling has been in the incubator since early 2009. In the last 6 months, the podling has had two sucessful Java releases, and now its first sucessful non-Java release too. The community is healthy and diverse, has added new committers, and brought in other code bases +

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

2011-02-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Nick Burch nick.bu...@alfresco.com wrote: ...Following advice from the mentors, the Chemistry podling has now voted to graduate:... I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation +1 Special kudos for the chemistry and opencmis teams for

Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-11 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Yes, I agree with that. In the example I used, things like master poms which are infrastructure, or a minor site updates, or fixing 'moved' repositories which wouldn't let things build. Those were our only real exceptions. Most changes we give the 72 hours for because if it's deserving of a

Re: Voting waiting period

2011-02-11 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote: It's my understanding that all voting takes place during a 72 hour period.   If that period ends on a weekend then it's customary to wait until Monday to complete. I don't see this documented on

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

2011-02-11 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 from me. (binding) Congrats guys! Cheers, Chris On Feb 11, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Nick Burch wrote: Hi All The Chemistry podling has been in the incubator since early 2009. In the last 6 months, the podling has had two sucessful Java releases, and now its first sucessful non-Java release

An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Benson Margulies
Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? Well, I *won't* proceed by asking for an ASF lab. Why? Because an ASF lab precludes me from collaboration with anyone except ASF committers, and that's a completely arbitrary distinction. So, these days, my

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
On 2/11/11 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ ? -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

2011-02-11 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-02-11, Nick Burch wrote: I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation 0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry -1 - There's an issue with graduation at this time, which is +1 Stefan

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Benson Margulies
Those have zero oversight, and are supposed to be associated with existing projects, no? More seriously, There are a number of things Apache Extras projects can not do since they are not official Apache Software Foundation projects, including 1) include the word Apache in their name, 2) use the

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Eric Johnson
As an Apache outsider who has some role in guiding our overall company use of open-source software, the high-barrier to entry is *precisely* what makes Apache currently so valuable to us, as a client. Not sure you want to dilute that. -Eric. On 2/11/11 8:44 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: Those

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Benson Margulies
Eric, I don't feel that your reply is fair. I am not 'lowering the bar' to the eventual creation of a TLP that makes official Apache releases. I am proposing, if you will excuse the metaphor, to create a less steep ramp that approaches that bar. Right now, we say 'go away until you have a

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Nicolas Lalevée
Le 11 févr. 2011 à 17:13, Benson Margulies a écrit : Let's say that I have an idea for some new open source initiative. How would I proceed? Well, I *won't* proceed by asking for an ASF lab. Why? Because an ASF lab precludes me from collaboration with anyone except ASF committers, and

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I *won't* proceed by asking for an ASF lab. Why? Because an ASF lab precludes me from collaboration with anyone except ASF committers, and that's a completely arbitrary distinction. As a Labs PMC member

Re: An idea you might call pre-incubation

2011-02-11 Thread Benson Margulies
hat's a completely arbitrary distinction. As a Labs PMC member at least I would be open to a proposal to change that rule, if that's the only thing preventing Labs from being used for something like this. In the interests of email economy: A scheme to do this at the Lab would be fine with

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

2011-02-11 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: On 2011-02-11, Nick Burch wrote: I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation. +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation   0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry  -1 - There's an issue with

Re: [PROPOSAL] Propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project

2011-02-11 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 Although the initial committers list are all paied by Yahoo, but I trust that the project will attract a lot of other developers more specifically from Hadoop family of projects. Only one note: Do you really need a separate users@ list, I didn't find in your proposal any pointers to a