Agree with David, the community is more important than the codes.
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At 2023-09-07 16:52:20, "David Zollo" wrote:
>After reading the comments and concerns, I went to check out this
>project[1]. I think this project is
Hi
Please notice the term, IPMC represents Incubator Project Management
Committees, there is only one IPMC, no (s). You could say members of IPMC.
This is happening repeatedly. Please correct in the next time.
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Apache SkyWalking
Twitter, wusheng1108
Yu Xiao 于2023年9月9日 周六21:12写道：
Hi Justin,
Thank you so much for your reply and advice.
I will discuss with the current mentors about the suggestion and also
try to find new mentors to increase the diversity.
The project leaders have already started working on the issues raised
by other IPMCs, such as "Initial committers
Hi,
For instance, I see your 4th higher committer doesn't seem to be on the initial
committers list?
Justin
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Hi,
As other IPMC members have mentioned, this project’s proposal has several
issues, including IP, licensing and community issues and has probably been
proposed too soon.
I also want to add that 6 mentors are too many, and the project should consider
including IPMC members outside of China.
Sorry for the late reply. Just came back from a business trip starting
from Monday. This year is tough, especially for small infra tech
companies in China, so most mentors are busy struggling to support the
company's business. That's partly the reason why this project has 6
mentors. We have
After a detailed review of the proposal, I'd suggest the champion check the
content of the proposal before starting the discussion:
> Documentation about Linkis can be found at
https://github.com/XiaoMi/mone/blob/master/ozhera-all/README.md . Following
links provide more information:
Linkis?
>
Sheng Wu 于2023年9月6日周三 22:52写道：
>
> They are already beginning to remove the screenshots and comments that
> have proved the UI copy behaviors.
> They had known that and did that intentionally.
>
> Screenshots, https://twitter.com/wusheng1108/status/1699432297429114959.
> Now, if you see the issue
After reading the comments and concerns, I went to check out this
project[1]. I think this project is still in a very early stage and
requires significant improvement. It would be beneficial to have these
mentors guide the improvements, and learn some open-source knowledge
like the apache way,
Thank you very much for your suggestion, we will try to implement it today.
On 2023/09/06 15:12:35 Xuanwo wrote:
> > Without Mone, OzHera can be used independently. Currently, in addition
> > to Xiaomi, there are also some external manufacturers using or
> > researching it. Mone is a
Thank you very much for your suggestion. We will separate the project today. In
the future, I will also share some of the philosophies we adopted during the
design stage. Currently, this project is online within Xiaomi. Thank you for
your attention.
On 2023/09/06 14:58:34 Chojan Shang wrote:
>
Correct my previous command:
```shell
git clone https://github.com/XiaoMi/mone OzHera
git filter-branch --subdirectory-filter ozhera-all -- --all
```
By the way, this repo seems can't clone now:
```shell
:) git clone https://github.com/XiaoMi/mone.git
Cloning into 'mone'...
remote: Enumerating
> Without Mone, OzHera can be used independently. Currently, in addition
> to Xiaomi, there are also some external manufacturers using or
> researching it. Mone is a larger collection within Xiaomi, and we are
> considering open sourcing all of it in the future (which includes cicd
> rpc,
I am glad to see the proposal and get to know a new project. Metrics and
tracing are crucial parts of modern applications.
However, it seems that OzHera still has a long way to go in terms of building a
community. Even Mone appears to lack sufficient publicly available information.
I am
They are already beginning to remove the screenshots and comments that
have proved the UI copy behaviors.
They had known that and did that intentionally.
Screenshots, https://twitter.com/wusheng1108/status/1699432297429114959.
Now, if you see the issue again, it is
This is a really interesting project that I have some experience on it and want
to leave some comments.
## Put on my IPMC member hat
- About the community.
You said there are some external manufacturers using or researching it, I saw
there are 3 in the GitHub readme, one of which is Xiaomi
> attaching the screenshot
I don't see an attachment in your email. If you paste the screenshot
inline, it can be filtered out by mailing list policy. You can attach a
file or upload it to an external image hosting service.
Best,
tison.
Sheng Wu 于2023年9月6日周三 21:23写道：
> One more update.
>
One more update.
With this project being noticed by this project, the parent project is
facing the challenge of copying from Ali Yunxiao, which is one of the
Aliyun commercial services.
Ref source in CN, https://github.com/XiaoMi/mone/issues/689, attaching
the screenshot in case of the owner
Is this a (community) with only 38 issues?
There are tons of commits from the community. How does the decision
happen? ok, I saw this, relying on Gitter[1] with only 6 people and 8
messages?
pls forgive me, after reviewing your proposal
I really don’t know how to describe it.
Without Mone, OzHera can be used independently. Currently, in addition to
Xiaomi, there are also some external manufacturers using or researching it.
Mone is a larger collection within Xiaomi, and we are considering open sourcing
all of it in the future (which includes cicd rpc, registration
Thanks for the interesting proposal first. After review the project, I feel
that this project is still in its early stages:
1. There is no website and documentation.
2. Many people in the issues asking how to compile and use it[1], and there
some replies but the links do not found[2].
3. Apart
I want to offinally feedback, if this proposal goes to the vote process, I
will give my -1 binding considering
1. Project is too early, no init community to prove the project will work.
2. Don't have enough knowledge about open source relative legal affairs.
3. Mostly Chinese involved, it seems
FWIW I rejected an incubator proposal before they submitted it formally in
the past weeks with the suggestion to run an open-source community first as
Sheng & Ming suggested above.
This is never permanent. And often, a healthy project takes a few months to
determine whether entering the incubator
After reading these responses, I feel that this project is not ready to
enter the Apache Incubator, especially considering that you have received
support from 6 mentors and communicated with them.
There is no magic in the Apache incubator. Don't expect the incubator will
make your project
HI tison，
This may be the description of the problem where the mentor is
volunteering to help with the project .
The understanding of the task here is that the mentor suggests some
practices the Apache Way!
> So I wonder what the "clear division of labor among the mentors" is - which
mentor
Hi,
>> This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on the "division of labor"
and
>> previous tasks "assigned" by mentors to initial committers?
> It should be clarified that mentors are there to help projects better
> practice the Apache Way,
> including project releases, license checks,
Hi,
Thanks for the interesting proposal first!
I would like to understand the connection between Xiaomi/mone and OzHera. Will
OzHera be transferred from Xiaomi/mono to apache/incubator-ozhera while keeping
the rest of the code unchanged? Can OzHera be used independently without
Xiaomi/mono?
Hi tison,
It should be clarified that mentors are there to help projects better
practice the Apache Way,
including project releases, license checked, community builds, etc.
> This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on the "division of labor" and
previous tasks "assigned" by mentors to
tison 于2023年9月5日周二 22:53写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> Glad to see a new incubator proposal. Comments inline.
>
> > There is a relatively clear division of labor among the mentors, and the
> mentors will regularly assign us corresponding tasks.
>
> This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on the "division
Inline, my concerns are more with the project status feedback.
The project status seems as same as I felt when reviewing the project today.
And both from the project tech perspective and also from the
experience level of initial committers is also too early to jump into
the foundation incubator,
Hi,
Glad to see a new incubator proposal. Comments inline.
> There is a relatively clear division of labor among the mentors, and the
mentors will regularly assign us corresponding tasks.
This sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on the "division of labor" and
previous tasks "assigned" by
On 2023/09/05 05:56:51 Sheng Wu wrote:
> Several important things
The entire project https://github.com/XiaoMi/mone has passed the internal audit
of Xiaomi, and the owners and leaders of the entire project are consistent with
the initiators of the ozhera project. The main donation to ASF
Several important things
1. You are mentioning the donation is about
`https://github.com/XiaoMi/mone/tree/master/ozhera-all`, It is a part
of the repository, so will others stay out of the ASF? If so, have the
project been going through Xiaomi's internal audit about the sharing
codes between this
Dear incubator community,
I would like to propose OzHera[1] as a new apache incubator project, you
can find the proposal[2] of OzHera for more detail.
OzHera is an application performance observation platform that centers
around applications,
integrating metric monitoring, link tracing, logs,
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