Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Otis Gospodnetic wrote: +1 for the idea, but you don't have Apache Members there (neither Ian nor Jeff are ASF members, as far as I know). Hey Otis. I'm a member. I just don't act like one ;-) Otis -- Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...i really like the idea but i'm pretty uncomfortable about having only one member as mentor. maybe we can find another mentor or two I think another ASF member as a mentor would be enough, that would make a total of three mentors, two of which are members. Seems like Brett Porter is volunteering, see the other Mentor recruit for Hama project thread, with this the issue would be solved IMHO. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mentor recruit for Hama project
I think you're going to be in for some significant challenges in growing a community in what appears to be a fairly specialised field - but if you're up for that challenge I will be happy to mentor the project, so you can go ahead and add my name. Just to clarify - this is intended to be a standalone project, not a subproject of hadoop? Thank you for your reply, And yes, we intended to be a standalone project; Overall concept is based on hadoop and hbase. However, We hope it can also be adaptable to other distributed computing environments. Thanks, Edward On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Edward, I think you're going to be in for some significant challenges in growing a community in what appears to be a fairly specialised field - but if you're up for that challenge I will be happy to mentor the project, so you can go ahead and add my name. Just to clarify - this is intended to be a standalone project, not a subproject of hadoop? Thanks, Brett 2008/5/18 Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, The Hama team is looking for a couple more mentor volunteers in addition to our current volunteers (Ian Jeff). We really want to be accepted into incubator status and we realize we need to learn more of the culture of the Apache community so that we can work effectively with the Incubator and with the other communities that are important to our proposal (Hadoop, Hbase and Mahout). The Hama domain of parallel matrix computation is very challenging and has been the target of significant mathematical and computer science research. We believe that the benefits of supporting large matrix computations efficiently on very large scale Hadoop clusters are immense and we have great enthusiasm for this endeavor. With hard work and the support of the larger Apache community we believe we can be successful. -- Best regards, Edward - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brett Porter Blog: http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:52:47 +0900, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like Brett Porter is volunteering, see the other Mentor recruit for Hama project thread, with this the issue would be solved IMHO. And he forgot to vote here. Oh well, is it possible to be a mentor not casting a vote? Brett, hurry up! ;) -- Trustin Lee - Principal Software Engineer, JBoss, Red Hat -- what we call human nature is actually human habit -- http://gleamynode.net/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
2008/5/19 이희승 (Trustin Lee) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:52:47 +0900, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like Brett Porter is volunteering, see the other Mentor recruit for Hama project thread, with this the issue would be solved IMHO. And he forgot to vote here. Oh well, is it possible to be a mentor not casting a vote? Brett, hurry up! ;) I thought there was only 1 mentor (Ian) previously? Regardless, +1 :) -- Trustin Lee - Principal Software Engineer, JBoss, Red Hat -- what we call human nature is actually human habit -- http://gleamynode.net/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brett Porter Blog: http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
2008/5/19 Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...I thought there was only 1 mentor (Ian) previously?... http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal says: Mentors Ian Holsman, (ianh AT apache DOT org) Jeff Eastman, (jeastman AT apache DOT org) Brett Porter, (brett AT apache DOT org) so there are now two mentors who are ASF members, and one who isn't (Jeff). -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please vote on accepting the Hama project for incubation... +1 Personally, I'd appreciate having more information on the affiliations of the initial committers. I know it is not currently a requirement, but it's IMHO a good thing for the Incubator PMC to have an idea of the weight of affiliations in podlings. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Revising the IP Clearance Form (was: cut the crap)
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: If the IP template should be RTC then it should be moved into the policy area. But IMO the incubator is not the right place for normative legal policy: the legal committee should maintain policy. It probably embodies both procedure and policy. And I agree with you, as indicated by the message to which you replied: Given that we now have a Legal Committee, any substantive revision of that form should be run through them. This is not a comment on content, but on process. Let's do due diligence to the document. The Legal Committee does not appear to have any concerns over Roy's proposed changes. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Revising the IP Clearance Form (was: cut the crap)
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: If the IP template should be RTC then it should be moved into the policy area. But IMO the incubator is not the right place for normative legal policy: the legal committee should maintain policy. It probably embodies both procedure and policy. ATM it tries to provide guidance, process and policy but comes up short for each And I agree with you, as indicated by the message to which you replied: Given that we now have a Legal Committee, any substantive revision of that form should be run through them. This is not a comment on content, but on process. Let's do due diligence to the document. The Legal Committee does not appear to have any concerns over Roy's proposed changes. legal-hat i don't recall being officially asked /legal-hat - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Personally, I'd appreciate having more information on the affiliations of the initial committers ...Edward J. Yoon, (NHN, Master of Mathematics) Chanwit Kaewkasi, (Univ. of Manchester, Ph.D student in CS) Cha MinChang, (NHN, Bachelor of Computer Science)... Thanks very much - do you mind adding this info to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal as well? Sorry, I should have asked this upfront - the idea is to have as much info in the proposal as possible (as long as people agree on disclosing their affiliations). -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Thank you for your advices and for your vote. Personally, I'd appreciate having more information on the affiliations of the initial committers. I know it is not currently a requirement, but it's IMHO a good thing for the Incubator PMC to have an idea of the weight of affiliations in podlings. Edward J. Yoon, (NHN, Master of Mathematics) Chanwit Kaewkasi, (Univ. of Manchester, Ph.D student in CS) Cha MinChang, (NHN, Bachelor of Computer Science) Suh ChangHee, (NHN, Bachelor of Science major in Biology) Ha Yongho, (TmaxSoft, Master of Mathematical Informatics) Hong Taehui, (KRIBB, Bachelor of Biomedical Informatics) Yoon JooSun, (NHN, Bachelor of Computer Science) Takkiel Shim, (NHN, Master of Computer Science) Donguk Choi, (NHN, Bachelor of Computer Science) NHN members are coming from the Service Development Center, Distributed Computing TF Team at RD center. Thanks, Edward On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please vote on accepting the Hama project for incubation... +1 Personally, I'd appreciate having more information on the affiliations of the initial committers. I know it is not currently a requirement, but it's IMHO a good thing for the Incubator PMC to have an idea of the weight of affiliations in podlings. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Q: ip-clearance step 5
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 18, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: apache needs a record of the checksummed artifact. this is likely to be the zipped code. FTR, Apache only needs this if there is no other way to map the contribution to the contributor. The easiest way to map them is to have the contributor (or their employee) commit the code directly to subversion or attached to jira/bugzilla, in which case the checksum is unnecessary. yes: apache just needs a clear method of identifying the contribution covered by the grant. checksums are one method by which can be achieved. if the contribution is submitted through an issue tracker or by subversion then IMHO the URL should suffice. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Personally, I'd appreciate having more information on the affiliations of the initial committers ...Edward J. Yoon, (NHN, Master of Mathematics) Chanwit Kaewkasi, (Univ. of Manchester, Ph.D student in CS) Cha MinChang, (NHN, Bachelor of Computer Science)... Thanks very much - do you mind adding this info to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal as well? Sorry, I should have asked this upfront - the idea is to have as much info in the proposal as possible (as long as people agree on disclosing their affiliations). i'm now +1 on hama - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: Single committer podlings (was Re: draft proposal for Caitrin)
Roland Weber wrote: Fair enough. The Proposal Guide says Apache is interested only in communities. but that is not policy. The Incubator exists to build communities. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: draft proposal for Caitrin (Photo Gallery Software)
Roland Weber wrote: I doubt that a podling without three committers would even be accepted. Sure it would, were there interest. And a photo gallery does happen to have my own interest, as I have written software for the same problem domain, as well as being an avid nature photographer and past President of the Carolinas Nature Photographers Association (www.cnpa.org). Any other photographers out there? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Single committer podlings (was Re: draft proposal for Caitrin)
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roland Weber wrote: Fair enough. The Proposal Guide says Apache is interested only in communities. but that is not policy. The Incubator exists to build communities. :-) guides offer guidance not policy - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RESULT][VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Ian Holsman is not yet member of the IPMC, However, Voting has now been open for over 6 days with 3 binding +1 votes from Alex, Bertrand, Brett to go along with the 3 committer +1 votes from Grant, Jeff, Otis. No -1 votes or 0 votes were cast. Thus, I'm closing this vote as Passed. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to look at it. Best regards, Edward On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please vote on accepting the Hama project for incubation... +1 Personally, I'd appreciate having more information on the affiliations of the initial committers. I know it is not currently a requirement, but it's IMHO a good thing for the Incubator PMC to have an idea of the weight of affiliations in podlings. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Holsman is not yet member of the IPMC, However, Voting has now been open for over 6 days with 3 binding +1 votes from Alex, Bertrand, Brett to go along with the 3 committer +1 votes from Grant, Jeff, Otis. No -1 votes or 0 votes were cast. you missed my vote Thus, I'm closing this vote as Passed. i'm a little uncomfortable about closing this VOTE so quickly given the low number of votes cast. projects typically end up spending a year or two in the incubator and the IPMC prefers to spend it's time considering it's decisions. perhaps i should have -1'd earlier to force a re-proposal but most admission votes are left open long enough for every IPMC who has an interest to express an opinion. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
you missed my vote Yes, Sorry for my carefulness. i'm a little uncomfortable about closing this VOTE so quickly given the low number of votes cast. projects typically end up spending a year or two in the incubator and the IPMC prefers to spend it's time considering it's decisions. perhaps i should have -1'd earlier to force a re-proposal but most admission votes are left open long enough for every IPMC who has an interest to express an opinion. Thank you for your advice, and yes, that would ne nice. Maybe we can just leave the vote open a bit longer. Thanks, Edward On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Holsman is not yet member of the IPMC, However, Voting has now been open for over 6 days with 3 binding +1 votes from Alex, Bertrand, Brett to go along with the 3 committer +1 votes from Grant, Jeff, Otis. No -1 votes or 0 votes were cast. you missed my vote Thus, I'm closing this vote as Passed. i'm a little uncomfortable about closing this VOTE so quickly given the low number of votes cast. projects typically end up spending a year or two in the incubator and the IPMC prefers to spend it's time considering it's decisions. perhaps i should have -1'd earlier to force a re-proposal but most admission votes are left open long enough for every IPMC who has an interest to express an opinion. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May 2008 Incubator Board Report
CXF has graduated, Tuscany is before the Board this month to graduate. As they leave, at least 4 new projects are under consideration for Incubation. Roy has raised issues with the procedure for IP Clearance. The Legal Committee has this week indicated that they've no problems with the changes proposed by Roy. Oddly, in that there has been a significant volume during the past month compared to most months, there have been a lot of IP Clearances done since the April Board report. Tony Stevenson has helped to prod projects into cleaning up their resources when leaving the Incubator, particularly disk space. A number of projects, e.g., UIMA and River, performed releases during the past month. --- May 2008 Board reports (see ReportingSchedule). === Abdera === Abdera released it's 0.4.0-incubating release on April 11th. We've been in incubation since June 2006 and main focus moving forward will be working towards graduation and a 1.0 release. Main item to resolve before graduation is more active committer involvement. 0.4.0 saw a marked increase in community contributions. We also need to continue improving documentation. === CouchDB === CouchDB is a distributed document-oriented database system written in Erlang. The project entered incubation on February 12th, 2008. Work continued on adding the Reduce-part of our Map/Reduce powered view system. Code for this is not yet in SVN, but is near completion. We also began making CouchDB configurable at runtime. IBM want to contribute JSearch-(JSON indexing built on Lucene)-support to CouchDB. We are in the process of discussing how to do this with the developers. JSearch as IBM-internal clearance of being added to Apache projects. The license of this unknown at this stage. Finally, we have been discussion open work items for our upcoming 0.8 and 1.0 releases respectively. We hope to be able to produce a 0.8 release soon. === Lokahi === Lokahi is a configuration and management console for Apache httpd, tomcat and other web server infrastructure. Incubating since: 2006-01-07 Testing on the MySQL port is continuing. A Fast Feather presentation on Lokahi was given at Apachecon in Atlanta. Recently talk (and some code) has begun around templating of configuration files, specifically for Apache Httpd at this time. And the need to extend Lokahi to manage Geronimo has been mentioned. Obstacles to graduation: * community - now includes authors outside of the original dev community, but additional committers are sought. * licensing - oracle-only backend is now 95% of the way to an alternate MySQL backend, and soon to be enhanced with license agnostic interfaces === NMaven === NMaven develops plugins and integration for Maven to make building and using .NET languages a first-class citizen in Maven. Incubating since: 2006-11-17 Items to resolve before graduation * More active committer involvement. We have two active committers from different organizations but need at least one more. Status: * Voted on and did first release * Many more community patches are coming in. * Lost one mentor due to personal reasons. Plans: * We lost a lot of features when we rewrote the code so the plan is to start reimplementing these features. * We have a number of patches for an old snapshot, which is very different from current trunk. Need to get all this migrated into the current trunk (related to above). s === PDFBox === Apache PDFBox is an open source Java library for working with PDF documents. PDFBox entered incubation on February 7th, 2008. No progress last month as we're still waiting for the software grants for the PDFBox sources. Once received, we'll finish the migration to Apache infrastructure. We also need to do a more thorough license and export review and work on migrating the web sites and the user community. Issues before graduation: * Bring the sources to Apache * Increase community size and activity * Release once all licensing and export issues are resolved === Shindig === Shindig is a reference implementation of the OpenSocial and gadgets stack. Incubating since: 2007-12-06 High-level status summary: Shindig community growing and working on OpenSocial v0.8 implementation. * Community presence/growth: JavaOne, OpenSocial Summit, Google I/O * Aiming to get Infrastructure to provision a Zone (but progress is slow): https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1585 * Retired 10 inactive committers (from Google) * Shindig docs are coming together: http://chrisschalk.com/shindig_docs/shindig_sql_tutorial/shindig_data_tutori als.html * Formally update the incubator status page (in progress) * Technical progress: * Initial work towards implementing OpenSocial v0.8 * Lots of progress getting new RESTful server implemented * Implemented full OAuth support * Top 3 things to resolve prior to graduation: * Improve diversity of committers
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
+1 Niall On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:27 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Incubator PMC, There has been some discussion around the Hama proposal, and we would now like to officially propose Hama to the Incubator for consideration, with Grant Ingersoll's +1. Please vote on accepting the Hama project for incubation. The full Hama proposal is available at the end of this message and as a wiki page at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal. We ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor the Hama podling, with myself, Ian Holsman, and Jeff Eastman as the mentors. The vote is open for the next 72 hours and only votes from the Incubator PMC are binding. [ ] +1 Accept Hama as a new podling [ ] -1 Do not accept the new podling (provide reason, please) == Abstract == Hama will develop a parallel matrix computational package based on [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] Map/Reduce. == Proposal == Hama will develop a parallel matrix computational package, which provides an library of matrix operations for the large-scale processing development environment and Map/Reduce framework for the large-scale Numerical Analysis and Data Mining, which need the intensive computation power of matrix inversion, e.g. linear regression, PCA, SVM and etc. It will be also useful for many scientific applications, e.g. physics computations, linear algebra, computational fluid dynamics, statistics, graphic rendering and many more. == Background == Currently, several shared-memory based parallel matrix solutions can provide a scalable and high performance matrix operations, but matrix resources can not be scalable in the term of complexity. And, Hadoop HDFS Files and Map/Reduce can only used by 1D blocked algorithm. == Rationale == Hama approach proposes the use of 3-dimensional Row and Column (Qualifier), Time space and multi-dimensional Columnfamilies of [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase], which is able to store large sparse and various type of matrices (e.g. Triangular Matrix, 3D Matrix, and etc.) and utilize the 2D blocked algorithm. its auto-partitioned sparsity sub-structure will be efficiently managed and serviced by Hbase. Row and Column operations can be done in linear-time, where several algorithms, such as ''structured Gaussian elimination'' or ''iterative methods'', run in O(the number of non-zero elements in the matrix / number of mappers) time on Hadoop Map/Reduce. == Current Status == In its current state, the 'hama' is buggy and needs filling out, but generalized matrix interface and basic linear algebra operations was implemented within a large prototype system. In the future, We need new parallel algorithms based on Map/Reduce for performance of heavy decompositions and factorizations. It also needs tools to compose an arbitrary matrix only with certain data filtered from hbase array structure. == Meritocracy == The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open source development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen specifically because the initial developers want to encourage this style of development for the project. === Community === Hama seeks to develop developer and user communities during incubation. == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. == Alignment == The developers of Hama want to work with the Apache Software Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a strong foundation and set of practices for developing standards-based infrastructure and server components. == Known Risks == === Orphaned products === Most of the active developers would like to become Hama Committers or PMC Members and have long term interest to develop/maintain and '''use''' the code. === Inexperience with Open Source === We has already a good experience with Apache open source development process. === Homogenous Developers === The current list of committers includes developers from several different companies ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHN NHN, corp], TMAX software, Korea Research Institute of Bioscience and Biotechnology, Students) plus many independent volunteers. The committers are geographically distributed across the Europe, and Asia. They are experienced with working in a distributed environment. === Reliance on Salaried Developers === It is expected that Hama development will occur on both salaried time and on volunteer time, after hours. While there is reliance on salaried developers (currently from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHN NHN, corp], but it's expected that other company's salaried developers will also be involved), the Hama Community is very active and things should balance out fairly quickly. In the
Re: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Hi, +1 Accept Hama as a new podling Sorry for the late vote. I was initially a bit confused about whether Hama should be just a Hadoop component from the beginning or if full incubation is needed, but the answer to Brett's question covered my concerns well. In general I'm quite excited to see scientific computing projects finding their way to Apache. While academia and the open source world are well aligned in theory, the practice isn't always very smooth. I'm sorry I currently don't have the spare cycles to join you as a mentor, but I'll certainly keep an interested eye on the project. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: draft proposal for Caitrin (Photo Gallery Software)
Noel, Would you be willing to Champion the proposal? There is interest at Roller to write a plugin for the software and I am working on writing the proposal for that as well. I think that this software is best as its own project though because it could get very big. Angie At 08:59 AM 5/19/2008, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roland Weber wrote: I doubt that a podling without three committers would even be accepted. Sure it would, were there interest. And a photo gallery does happen to have my own interest, as I have written software for the same problem domain, as well as being an avid nature photographer and past President of the Carolinas Nature Photographers Association (www.cnpa.org). Any other photographers out there? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft proposal for Caitrin (Photo Gallery Software)
Wearing my more ametur photographer heat, I have interest on this project, and would like to contribute to it. In the past couple weeks, I've been planning to do a simple photo gallery application that would demo the Tuscany/SCA Web 2.0 capabilities, but looks like I could apply some of my ideas to Caitrin as well. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Angela Cymbalak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noel, Would you be willing to Champion the proposal? There is interest at Roller to write a plugin for the software and I am working on writing the proposal for that as well. I think that this software is best as its own project though because it could get very big. Angie At 08:59 AM 5/19/2008, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roland Weber wrote: I doubt that a podling without three committers would even be accepted. Sure it would, were there interest. And a photo gallery does happen to have my own interest, as I have written software for the same problem domain, as well as being an avid nature photographer and past President of the Carolinas Nature Photographers Association (www.cnpa.org). Any other photographers out there? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-74) IP Clearance Template is rubbish
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12598019#action_12598019 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-74: +1 IP Clearance Template is rubbish Key: INCUBATOR-74 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Attachments: ip.diff http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200804.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft proposal for Caitrin (Photo Gallery Software)
Luciano, I would welcome the help and the interest is great. As this isn't currently open source, I don't have a mail list to direct you to. However, feel free to chime in on the Caitrin proposal on the incubator wiki with additional features you would like to see. If there are more people interested in contributing, I may set up a list so that discussions don't get started too much on the general list. Angie At 01:04 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote: Wearing my more ametur photographer heat, I have interest on this project, and would like to contribute to it. In the past couple weeks, I've been planning to do a simple photo gallery application that would demo the Tuscany/SCA Web 2.0 capabilities, but looks like I could apply some of my ideas to Caitrin as well. On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Angela Cymbalak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noel, Would you be willing to Champion the proposal? There is interest at Roller to write a plugin for the software and I am working on writing the proposal for that as well. I think that this software is best as its own project though because it could get very big. Angie At 08:59 AM 5/19/2008, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Roland Weber wrote: I doubt that a podling without three committers would even be accepted. Sure it would, were there interest. And a photo gallery does happen to have my own interest, as I have written software for the same problem domain, as well as being an avid nature photographer and past President of the Carolinas Nature Photographers Association (www.cnpa.org). Any other photographers out there? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-74) IP Clearance Template is rubbish
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12598030#action_12598030 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-74: Wheels are starting to turn. I'd like to create a sufficient minimal list of aims and principles which can be approved by the legal affairs committee. The incubator can then turn this into a policy. Here's a first draft: Aim: 1. Allow the public to audit the provenance of outside code contribution to Apache Principles: The following must be clearly and openly identified: 1. the contribution 2. the contributor(s) 3. the accepting committee 4. the covering agreement(s) IP Clearance Template is rubbish Key: INCUBATOR-74 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Attachments: ip.diff http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200804.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-74) IP Clearance Template is rubbish
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12598032#action_12598032 ] Robert Burrell Donkin commented on INCUBATOR-74: Please jump with comments and improvements IP Clearance Template is rubbish Key: INCUBATOR-74 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Attachments: ip.diff http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200804.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Revising the IP Clearance Form (was: cut the crap)
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: snip Given that we now have a Legal Committee, any substantive revision of that form should be run through them. This is not a comment on content, but on process. Let's do due diligence to the document. The Legal Committee does not appear to have any concerns over Roy's proposed changes. legal-hat i don't recall being officially asked /legal-hat ok i've proposed that https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74 is used to draft up some minimal principles suitable from the legal-affairs perspective. please feel free to comment or post improvements... - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Champion and mentor recruitment for Caitrin
There has been some interest shown in the Caitrin project. There are 2 people at Roller who have shown interest in creating a plugin for photo gallery software to be used with Roller. There is one person on the general list who has stated they are willing to contribute. While this is not a large community it is a start and that is what we need the Incubator for. Therefore, I am asking if there is anyone within the ASF who would be willing to Champion and Mentor the Caitrin project. Noel indicated interest in the project and I did send an email to the general list asking him to Champion if he would. Please reply to the general list if you are interested. Thanks, Angie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-74) IP Clearance Template is rubbish
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12598051#action_12598051 ] Craig Russell commented on INCUBATOR-74: Three things that might be relevant in helping the PMC decide whether to accept the contribution, or more rubbish: I'd like to know if there is any connection between the contribution and an existing product (commercial or otherwise). I'd like to know if the contribution reads on any patents known to the contributor. The grant does address patents owned by the contributor, but it would still be good to know what they are and if there are any other patents that are known to the contributor. I'd like to know if the contribution is subject to export controls due to encryption technology. With regard to the suggested template http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/httpd-mod_domain-clearance.html is there any reason that the files should not have http links to the svn repo where they reside? IP Clearance Template is rubbish Key: INCUBATOR-74 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Attachments: ip.diff http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200804.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-74) IP Clearance Template is rubbish
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12598064#action_12598064 ] Doug Cutting commented on INCUBATOR-74: --- I'd like to know if there is any connection between the contribution and an existing product (commercial or otherwise). I'd like to know if the contribution reads on any patents known to the contributor. We don't require these for other contributions, and I see no need for a higher bar here. The first also isn't clear (What's a connection? Does used to provide a free service that enhances a brand constitute a connection to a product? And the second is legally hard to determine. IP Clearance Template is rubbish Key: INCUBATOR-74 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-74 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Robert Burrell Donkin Attachments: ip.diff http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200804.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RESULT][VOTE] Apache Tuscany Graduation as TLP
Its been 5 days now so I'm going to call this...passed with 19 +1s from: Noel J. Bergman, Carl Trieloff, Niklas Gustavsson, Robert Burrell Donkin, Niall Pemberton, Jean T. Anderson, Craig L Russell, Paul Fremantle, Kevan Miller, Guillaume Nodet, Vamsavardhana Reddy, Sam Ruby, Martijn Dashorst, Matthieu Riou, Davanum Srinivas, William A. Rowe, Jr., Bertrand Delacretaz Many many thanks to everyone for all the help during the incubation. ...ant On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After 29 months in the incubator, 19 releases, 25 new committers, and tons of emails the Apache Tuscany community (with support from our mentors) again feels that we are ready to graduate to an official top level project at Apache as indicated by the community vote recorded at: http://apache.markmail.org/message/lss5jhjxail7m67r We would like the resolution below to be presented to the board for consideration at the next possible board meeting. For additional information, the Tuscany status file is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/STATUS Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. ...ant X. Establish the Apache Tuscany Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software for distribution at no charge to the public, that simplifies the development, deployment and management of distributed applications built as compositions of service components. These components may be implemented with a range of technologies and connected using a variety of communication protocols. This software will implement relevant open standards including, but not limited to, the Service Component Architecture standard defined by the OASIS OpenCSA member section, and related technologies. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Tuscany Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to Apache Tuscany; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Tuscany Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Tuscany Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Tuscany Project: * Adriano Crestani adrianocrestani at apache dot org * ant elder antelder at apache dot org * Brady Johnson bjohnson at apache dot org * Frank Budinsky frankb at apache dot org * Ignacio Silva-Lepe isilval at apache dot org * Jean-Sebastien Delfino jsdelfino at apache dot org * kelvin goodson kelvingoodson at apache dot org * Luciano Resende lresende at apache dot org * Mark Combellack mcombellack at apache dot org * Matthieu Riou mriou at apache dot org * Mike Edwards edwardsmj at apache dot org * Paul Fremantle pzf at apache dot org * Pete Robbins robbinspg at apache dot org * Raymond Feng rfeng at apache dot org * Simon Laws slaws at apache dot org * Simon Nash nash at apache dot org * Venkata Krishnan svkrish at apache dot org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Ant Elder be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Tuscany, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Tuscany Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Tuscany podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator Tuscany podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Again, The vote has now, IMO, had enough time to run. (for one week) We had 7 binding +1s, from Alex Karasulu, Bertrand Delacretaz, Brett Porter, Robert Burrell Donkin, Niall Pemberton, Jukka Zitting, Ian Holsman (potentially) to go along with the 3 committer +1 votes from Grant Ingersoll, Jeff Eastman, Otis Gospodnetic. No -1 votes or 0 votes were cast. This means that the Hama project has been accepted into the Incubator. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to look at it. Your valuable comments and advices are always welcome. Best Regards, Edward On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you missed my vote Yes, Sorry for my carefulness. i'm a little uncomfortable about closing this VOTE so quickly given the low number of votes cast. projects typically end up spending a year or two in the incubator and the IPMC prefers to spend it's time considering it's decisions. perhaps i should have -1'd earlier to force a re-proposal but most admission votes are left open long enough for every IPMC who has an interest to express an opinion. Thank you for your advice, and yes, that would ne nice. Maybe we can just leave the vote open a bit longer. Thanks, Edward On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Holsman is not yet member of the IPMC, However, Voting has now been open for over 6 days with 3 binding +1 votes from Alex, Bertrand, Brett to go along with the 3 committer +1 votes from Grant, Jeff, Otis. No -1 votes or 0 votes were cast. you missed my vote Thus, I'm closing this vote as Passed. i'm a little uncomfortable about closing this VOTE so quickly given the low number of votes cast. projects typically end up spending a year or two in the incubator and the IPMC prefers to spend it's time considering it's decisions. perhaps i should have -1'd earlier to force a re-proposal but most admission votes are left open long enough for every IPMC who has an interest to express an opinion. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org -- Best regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PROPOSAL] FLEX and JSF integration [MyFaces Alchemy]
Hi!
My name is Jihoon Kim and I would like to propose a subproject
regarding Flex and JSF integration.
I have originally posted a JIRA regarding the contribution within the
Apache MyFaces project. But since I was the sole developer that wrote
the code, the members within the community have asked it to be
proposed within the Incubator to sort out legal issues [Adobe Flash
Player is proprietary but Flex has been open sourced through MPL] and
gathering additional developers to the project.
So technically the sponsor would be Apache MyFaces group and the
following link is to the JIRA with the contribution of the code =
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1250
As I have yet to received a Champion for the project, I am being
hopeful that one of the readers might kindly respond back to this post
with interest in guiding me throughout the process. The following is a
rough draft of the proposal that I have written up while reading
through the process within the following site =
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
Project name : MyFaces Alchemy
Author : Jihoon Kim [JihoonKim1004 at gmail dot com]
Draft date : May 17, 2008
1Abstract
JSF Alchemy gives capability in creating Adobe Flex components as
MyFaces JSF components. This glue will enable developers to utilize
strengths of both technology :
(a) RIA provided by Adobe Flex
(b) Ease of data binding using managed beans through JSF and JEE
2Proposal
JSF Alchemy bridges the technology of Adobe Flex [which has been open
sourced through MPL] and JSF of JEE 1.4+ to ease the development of
RIA while preserving all the beneficial aspects of both technologies.
So users would create the Adobe Flex componens as normal JSF
components and the project will create the necessary preMxml, Mxml,
and SWF files and link the values of the compoonents back to the
managed beans on the JSF side by using mainly JSON+Javascript+DOJO and
ActionScript.
This way developers who are unfamiliar with Adobe Flex can be
completely abstracted from its technology and focus in linking the
application's data to legacy information. However, in order to keep to
the principle of good programming, debugging is made easy by creation
of preMxml files [prequel to mxml files that get compiled to swf
files] and various modes of application [debugMode, simplySWF, and
productionEnv] which are later mentioned to give flexibility to users
who use this project/contribution.
Technical info regarding the project :
Beginning of design###
The components require Adobe Flex SDK to be extracted to C:\Program
Files\flexSDK or /usr/local/bin/flexSDK [have yet to test on a linux
machine]. Optionally users can modify or pass the bin [i.e. C:\Program
Files\flexSDK\bin] to mxmlConstants.xml or JVM parameter mxmlc_bin
respectively.
The components have been tested using FireFox 2.0, Opera 9.25, and IE
6.0 browsers with TomCat 5.5. Also have used Sun's JDK for Adobe Flex
SDK [JAVA_HOME]
The basic design is as follows [will implement it better later]
(1a) All Flex components must be nested within s:mxmlApplication /
tag as it is the top component and this tag must be outside the
h:form / component [due to IE's use of objects]. {the previous
statement regarding h:form / might not apply, as currently am making
changes to avoid it}.
(2a) There exists replaceMapping XMLs which will tell how to pick the
fields from the components [i.e. by attributes of the UIComponent or
by method call for that object].
(3a) There exists templates [users can modify it if they wish to have
some default capability to all similar components] which will be used
per component to create preMxml files. In a nutshell, it is nothing
but a simple file that contains tokens which will be replaced by
component values using the replaceMapping XML and ANT's Replace Task.
(4a) Necessary source files will be created to their respective
directory [i.e. ActionScript file[s] that is/are needed by the system
and XML file[s] that is/are needed by the ActionScript file[s] and
should be defined within mxmlConstants.xml]
(5a) After all the component's preMxml within s:mxmlApplication /
have been created, MXML file and SWF file will be created using ANT by
the MXMLApplication class. s:mxmlScript / will give capability in
writing ActionScript contents as the body content of the Tag by
extending UIComponentBodyTagBase. Similar flexibility is given to
other Tags by extending MXMLUIComponentBodyTagBase; however it should
be used sparingly and should be used mainly for components that extend
MXMLUISimpleBase component. One additional thing to note is that
mxmlPackageName attribute for s:mxmlApplication / tag will be used
to name the mxml file and the swf file.
(6a) Also
