Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Davor Bonaci
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 10:04 PM Greg Stein wrote: > I disagree. I see a number of people who think that podling releases are > TLP-level releases from the Incubator itself. I see people wanting > structure/policy/rules to ensure these TLP releases are done properly. And > that some want to "fix

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 11:55 PM Davor Bonaci wrote: > I wouldn't say that there are 2 camps. The IPMC seems to be overwhelmingly > in the "2nd camp", with its desire to be lenient with the releases and > rules. > I disagree. I see a number of people who think that podling releases are

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Greg Stein
+1 to 2nd camp. And even less requirements than have been suggested, I would offer. For example: if the tarball is missing a LICENSE or NOTICE file? Who cares. It's still a legal release. Just hard for downstream users to consume. But they *can*. Nothing stopping somebody from trying out the

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Davor Bonaci
I wouldn't say that there are 2 camps. The IPMC seems to be overwhelmingly in the "2nd camp", with its desire to be lenient with the releases and rules. What I see is: [1] David is saying (correctly) how Incubator is structured right now. He hasn't expressed ~any opinions; it is just an

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks Roman! +1 to the 2nd camp! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2019, at 8:25 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 3:31 PM Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> A couple of thoughts: > > And a couple of thoughts on top of that. > >> Podlings are not permitted to

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Alex Harui
IMO, there's an actual test case going on right now. On 6/14, the Weex folks asked about an LGPL dependency which became LEGAL-464. Personally, I think it could be classified as a "runtime/platform" so that the CatX rules don't apply. But they have been held up for 9 days and counting. Who

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 3:31 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > > A couple of thoughts: And a couple of thoughts on top of that. > Podlings are not permitted to call themselves "Apache Foo" because they are > not yet full Apache projects. Correct. The I way I see this thread is this: *when it comes to

Re: LGPL dependency

2019-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Lets continue this discussion on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-464 please On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 2:18 PM Matt Sicker wrote: > > WebKit dates back to KHTML, an LGPL web engine from KDE. It sounds like > it’s some WebKit specific files that are BSD licensed. I haven’t inspected >

Re: [VOTE] (Re)Release Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) 1.0.0

2019-06-23 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, +1 (binding) I checked the source release: - signatures and hashes good - incubating in name - disclaimer exists - LICENSE and NOTICE fine - all source files have ASF headers - no unexpected binary files There's one very minor issue in that LICENSE appendix includes " © Copyright 2018 The