Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Henri Yandell wrote: On 3/9/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, back in Jakarta's heyday, the general list was the meeting place for all the subprojects. It was a lot of fun. I'm not sure we could do that on an apache-wide scale though. Part of the fun was because we knew

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/10/06, J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that mailing-lists are part of the foundation of the ASF and are a really useful way to communicate effectively. However my feeling is that we don't have the right tools or policies

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/10/06, Mike Kienenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should subscribe all apache mail lists to one google account and figure out how to have a web site proxy searches into it... You'd think Google would be enthusiastic to

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Well, back in Jakarta's heyday, the general list was the meeting place for all the subprojects. It was a lot of fun. I'm not sure we could do that on an apache-wide scale though. Part of the fun was because we knew

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Well, back in Jakarta's heyday, the general list was the meeting place for all the subprojects. It was a lot of fun. I'm not sure we could do that on an apache-wide scale though. Part of

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 3/9/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, back in Jakarta's heyday, the general list was the meeting place for all the subprojects. It was a lot of fun. I'm not sure we could do that on an apache-wide scale though. Part of the fun was because we knew each other, and that

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread Matthieu Riou
One of thing things that the we need to look at is how to improve communication across projects. Perhaps having some ontological mailing lists would be part of a solution. What ideas and views do others have? I know that mailing-lists are part of the foundation of the ASF and are a really

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/9/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of thing things that the we need to look at is how to improve communication across projects. Perhaps having some ontological mailing lists would be part of a solution. What ideas and views do others have? I know that mailing-lists

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Echoing robert... inline Matthieu Riou wrote: One of thing things that the we need to look at is how to improve communication across projects. Perhaps having some ontological mailing lists would be part of a solution. What ideas and views do others have? I know that mailing-lists are part

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 3/9/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that mailing-lists are part of the foundation of the ASF and are a really useful way to communicate effectively. However my feeling is that we don't have the right tools or policies to use them as effectively as could be. For example,

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 3/9/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should subscribe all apache mail lists to one google account and figure out how to have a web site proxy searches into it... You'd think Google would be enthusiastic to support this -- right now, there's a zillion of us all

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/9/06, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that if we acknowledge that a community as a group of peers, working towards a common goal, then that would derive umbrellas from projects where there are distinctions of authority (and therefor work) within that community's codebase.

Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: the only caveat being DB is feeling a little bit umbrella-ish these days. I've seen this comment a couple of times in the last week or so, but I don't really understand what it's trying to say. What makes an Apache project

RE: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread James Carman
. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:34 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication Daniel John Debrunner wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: the only caveat being DB is feeling a little bit umbrella-ish

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread Thomas Dudziak
On 3/8/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ASF projects are supposed to be about a community managing a project. So the warning signs include large disjoint communities, e.g., Jakarta, the old XML project (which, itself, was a Jakarta spin-off), etc. So, good project boundaries are

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Noel J. Bergman wrote: ASF projects are supposed to be about a community managing a project. So the warning signs include large disjoint communities, e.g., Jakarta, the old XML project (which, itself, was a Jakarta spin-off), etc. So, good project boundaries are considered to be

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread Upayavira
Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/8/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ASF projects are supposed to be about a community managing a project. So the warning signs include large disjoint communities, e.g., Jakarta, the old XML project (which, itself, was a Jakarta spin-off), etc. So,

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-08 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 08 March 2006 23:33, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: What makes an Apache project umbrella-ish? ASF projects are supposed to be about a community managing a project. So the warning signs include large disjoint communities, e.g., Jakarta, the old XML project