Re: Trademarks, copyright etc

2002-04-30 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Alex McLintock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there is any forum appropriate for that yet, and I can see that some people (such as Pier above) isn't so keen on discussing it on the existing mailing lists. :-) It's not that I'm not keen, don't get me wrong, I just don't know anything

RE: Trademarks, copyright etc

2002-04-30 Thread Steven Noels
Pier Fumagalli wrote: Alex McLintock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there is any forum appropriate for that yet, and I can see that some people (such as Pier above) isn't so keen on discussing it on the existing mailing lists. :-) [...] I would be keen to see an @apache.org

RE: strange behaviour with servlets

2002-04-30 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Try in the tomcat-user list. Un saludo, Alex Fernández. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: martes 30 de abril de 2002 19:35 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: strange behaviour with servlets Before i had some problems to make Tomcat

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread James Taylor
ObjectBridge is one of the most interesting, powerful, and complete O/R mapping projects out there. I would love to see it become a top level Jakarta subproject, so here is my emphatic (but non-binding) +1! -- jt On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 14:41, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, I would like to propose

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Martin Poeschl
Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, I would like to propose ObjectRelationalBridge (http://objectbridge.sourceforge.net/) as a top level subproject of Jakarta. For those not familiar with ObjectBridge it is arguably one of the most advanced persistence layers available, commercial or otherwise. It is

RE: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
here my (non-binding) +1 ~Gerhard PS: hmm curious if takes the jon hurdle ;-). Sex... the pleasure is momentry, the position ridiculous, and the expense damnable. (Lord Chesterfield) -Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:41

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Martin Poeschl
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 4/30/02 11:11 AM, Gerhard Froehlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: hmm curious if takes the jon hurdle ;-). +1. The proposal and project clearly meet ALL of the requirements set out on the newproject page. I would really like to see some sort of commitment

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread costinm
Given the votes expressed so far by other jakarta commiters - I can only vote +1. This seems like a usefull tool ( I spent few years working on OODBs and OQL ), with a modular design. My only comment: I would be much happier with a wider top-level project, where the various db-related

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/30/02 12:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be much happier with a wider top-level project, where the various db-related technologies could find the expertise and community that is needed ( instead of ending up with 3-4 smaller projects ). +1 However, one could

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/30/02 12:58 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costin: I would be much happier with a wider top-level project, where the various db-related technologies could find the expertise and community that is needed ( instead of ending up with 3-4 smaller projects ). I completely agree.

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 15:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the votes expressed so far by other jakarta commiters - I can only vote +1. You should put your name in the PMC section on the who we are page. I know you're on the PMC but I can't remember who the 7th is. This seems like a usefull

Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
Quick! convert all your projects build.xml files to being controlled by maven! http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/ The faster we get a centralized build system in Jakarta the better off we will all be. Forget the days where you have to edit silly properties files to locate dependency

RE: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Ignacio J. Ortega
Which are the relation between maven , gump and forrest? They are alternative solutions, complimentary, or what? Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Ignacio J. Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which are the relation between maven , gump and forrest? They are alternative solutions, complimentary, or what? Here is a mail I sent to CJAN guys on the subject: From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 19:40, Michael Davey

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projectsto maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I think both projects have nice advantages and features. Maven has good documentation. Centipede is easier to setup and is a bit more advanced in the way it generates documentation. Its a bit alpha but I think the code generation stuff in centipede shows some promise. I can personally vouch

You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quick! convert all your projects build.xml files to being controlled by maven! http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/ The faster we get a centralized build system in Jakarta the better off we will all be. Forget the days where you have

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all yourprojects to maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/30/02 2:46 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krysalis Centipede: http://www.sf.net/projects/krysalis/ Site using Centipede: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ You make the decision. To me, the decision is simple: Krysalis isn't our own dog food. I would far rather see

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all yourprojects to maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 4/30/02 2:46 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krysalis Centipede: http://www.sf.net/projects/krysalis/ Site using Centipede: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ You make the decision. To me, the decision is simple:

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects tomaven!)

2002-04-30 Thread dion
[snip] I think both projects have nice advantages and features. Maven has good documentation. Centipede is easier to setup and is a bit more advanced in the way it generates documentation. Its a bit alpha but I think the I've had the opposite experience. The whole reason I got involved

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Michael McCallum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So why not just merge the good features of both projects together. Alternatively if each project can deal with the descriptors for the other it doesnt matter. Use whichever you like one will end up be used more. At which point take all the used

Re: FW: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Sam Ruby
I have yet to be able to build Maven. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/30/02 5:31 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have yet to be able to build Maven. - Sam Ruby echo maven.home=${user.home}/maven ~/build.properties cvs co jakarta-turbine-maven cd jakarta-turbine-maven ant -f build-bootstrap.xml Seems pretty easy to me. -jon -- To unsubscribe,

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Stevens wrote: I have yet to be able to build Maven. echo maven.home=${user.home}/maven ~/build.properties cvs co jakarta-turbine-maven cd jakarta-turbine-maven ant -f build-bootstrap.xml Seems pretty easy to me. I'll believe it when I see it here...

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
[snip] I think both projects have nice advantages and features. Maven has good documentation. Centipede is easier to setup and is a bit more advanced in the way it generates documentation. Its a bit alpha but I think the I've had the opposite experience. The whole reason I got

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Are you volunteering? So far all I've seen in this direction was FUD tactics by Maven. -Andy On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 19:47, Michael McCallum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So why not just merge the good features of both projects together. Alternatively if each

Re: You make the decision (was Re: Quick! convert all yourprojects to maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 05:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I think both projects have nice advantages and features. Maven has good documentation. Centipede is easier to setup and is a bit more advanced in the way it generates documentation. Its a bit alpha but I think the I've had

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
In truth I think thats a good idea. So since Maven is under Turbine and really is a bit out of scope, how about moving it over to Krysalis and combine it. I'd love to see a combined effort. Centipede's featureset and modularity + maven's documentation and better names for things! Wow that

jakarta subproject scope (was Re: Quick! convert all your projectsto maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread John McNally
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 19:09, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: In truth I think thats a good idea. So since Maven is under Turbine and really is a bit out of scope, how about moving it over to Krysalis and combine it. How is a build system out of scope of Turbine. Isn't it up to a subproject to

Re: jakarta subproject scope (was Re: Quick! convert all your projectsto maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 4/30/02 11:31 PM, John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know where to locate Turbine's original charter and I think it is a good idea to try to follow it. Are these published somewhere or should Turbine maintain it in its own documentation? However the scope of a subproject is

Re: jakarta subproject scope (was Re: Quick! convert allyour projects to maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread John McNally
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 20:38, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 4/30/02 11:31 PM, John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know where to locate Turbine's original charter and I think it is a good idea to try to follow it. Are these published somewhere or should Turbine maintain it in

Re: Quick! convert all your projects to maven!

2002-04-30 Thread Michael McCallum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 01 May, 2002 13:59, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Are you volunteering? yes. :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

Re: jakarta subproject scope (was Re: Quick! convert all your projectsto maven!)

2002-04-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 5/1/02 12:28 AM, John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 20:38, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 4/30/02 11:31 PM, John McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know where to locate Turbine's original charter and I think it is a good idea to try to follow it. Are these

Re: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-04-30 Thread Rainer Klute
I would like to propose ObjectRelationalBridge (http://objectbridge.sourceforge.net/) as a top level subproject of Jakarta. +1 Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH i. Gr. Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]