on this thing or
go new barebones. I've lived with the problem for over a year, so another
couple weeks to ensure I'm not locking myself in with no upgrade path,
won't hurt.
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At least... 20-r1 really borked me over, here, and I had to use the
emergency portage recovery procedure with a copy of the previous binary
package as above, to get a working portage again.
http
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Duncan posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,
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At least... 20-r1 really borked me over, here, and I had to use the
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, then
arts and kdelibs, first, then the other kde packages, or did you just jump
in with some package or other?
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, the LILO site had
instructions and a boot menu background that I found to my liking (Linux
Inside!), and that worked fine.
So, now, I'm running the LILO binary and a graphical boot background from
the LILO home page. http://lilo.go.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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unsubscribe
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would be to switch to
ia64 or another 64-bit hardware only arch, where again, the community will
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Duncan posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,
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Olivier Crête posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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I added a patch for bin86... So you should be able to build/install lilo
now (it works here at least).
BTW
, too. (See, as I said, I'm NOT trying to rush things before they
are ready, not least because I'm not talented enough to be in there
helping to code it myself, which is quite different from saying I'd be of
no use in /testing/. g)
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with it.
OTOH, Adobe was also the company that nailed Skylarev (sp?) with the DMCA,
so they're not /all/ good guys, by /any/ stretch! Hopefully now we get
more good and less bad, not the other way around.
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, and 3.4.1 will probably be released sometime next week, and hopefully
will be given stable keywords quickly.
Cool! =8^)
Also cool that this is the first KDE upgrade I shouldn't have to worry so
much about, with the split packages meaning there should be far less to
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to match what works), if they can't initially duplicate your success.
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Tres Melton posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
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On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 08:11 -0700, Duncan wrote:
Tres Melton posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
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For more information please see: http://old.x86-64.org
/is/ there to use, if
desired. (The manpage /does/ say optimizing to use /both/ sets of
commands is not very good yet, and hasn't been tested well so could
produce logic errors not seen if one /or/ the other is used.)
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What you are talking about is probably the option -fpmath=unit where unit
is 387, sse, or sse,387 or both engines at once.
Yes, I was. Thanks.
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I'm about to remove the cinelerra ebuilds and just put a placeholder
ebuild that just points to cinelerra-cvs.
If somebody is against that please tell me.
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a gig, and have to clean out old packages only every few months, when
I start running out of space on the partition, so it's not a huge space
hog as long as you don't let it grow forever.
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In the former case, if it doesn't and can't work without more work than
anybody's willing to put into it right now, or if it's going to take
a significant amount of time to get it working and tested, perhaps that
USE flag should be masked on this arch??
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wanted to take me with it, as well, which by definition means I care more
about such things than the folks that have continued to tolerate the
example for privacy invasion and other-than-user-controlled systems that
MS itself has set, with where it took eXPrivacy.
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On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 10:03 -0700, Duncan wrote:
I was hoping for a quick response but I got a typically detailed response
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a bug, since it's unmasked and should
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that Apache open source Java project will be
working, but it'll be another year anyway, I'd guess.
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Tres Melton posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
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Duncan, do you use IRC? If so what is your nick in #gentoo? Mine is
RiverRat but I'm going to bed before too long.
No, I don't. I tend to need the non-real-time format of mail/news to do
my message
out of that list.
I bet a lot of folks here will find your list and script idea helpful!
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that going wild here could seriously
screw up that power saving, so as usual when messing with system configs,
a bit of reasonable caution is warranted.
Was that of any help?
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! drool, drool, can /still/ be
minimally adequate to do the job.
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only a week or two ago. That'll be particularly likely with the new
SMP-suspend that's probably going to be in 2.6.13. Definitely looking
forward to that!
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the old one, because the references still point to it, and most decent
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or so,
compared to my usual 1-3 day updates, that my updates were processed in a
different order than yours, and some dependency (qt and kdelibs as you
mentioned, but also arts) needs recompiled in your case. Have you tried a
revdep-rebuild lately? That /might/ catch it.
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embarrassing noises at the wrong time g, not to mention
potential buffer overflows and the like, but for a single computer or
home/SOHO network where all users are trusted and behind a suitable
firewall, that'd generally be the least complicated thing to do.
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not going to attempt
an explanation in this message. In any case, having one thing play at a
time is better than no sound at all!
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no idea when it'll suddenly start overwriting
stuff on your disk, so be prepared to reinstall when needed, and keep
daily, even hourly, backups, to clean media each time so it can't
overwrite /that/ with crazy stuff!
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results in a much more dependable
Gentoo.
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killfile those that use it. Even when they don't, using the format is
akin to putting up a huge blinking NEWBIE AOLER STYLE USER INSENSITIVE TO
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that in almost real-time, in the few seconds (if the
data is cached) to minutes (if it must be read in from disk) it actually
takes, is truly amazing, when I think about it.
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, as synonyms for the exact same optimizations. It doesn't
really matter which one you use, they all do exactly the same thing.
(List checked against the gcc 3.4.4 and 4.0.1 man pages, since I have
3.3.4 and a 4.0.1 preview merged, here.)
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if this came off harshly, but it's no harsher than unfounded
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who /at/ /least/ knows enough to post in plain text, not HTML.
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Luigi Pinna posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Alle 14:01, sabato 09 luglio 2005, Duncan ha scritto:
Run kcontrol and switch to Sound and Multimedia, System Notifications
(or run kcmshell kcmnotify, to get the specific applet directly), click
recommend, it's not so busy
as to prevent it and ypu'll find useful information on what's ahead from
time to time, even if the usual discussion isn't of interest to you),
you'll find that yes, my replies are /often/ this long and detailed. g
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than it needs to be.
Does that clear up the confusion?
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specific tweaking I might want to try.)
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Paolo Ripamonti posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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On 7/27/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't believe there's a
specific kernel option for it. (It's possible, however, that there is
Spent my morning browsing make menuconfig, well
here,
it has forced me to ensure they form a reasonable and self consistent
infrastructure in my own head, in ordered to be able to explain it in the
post. So, anyway, thanks for the intellectual stimulation! g
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netpython wrote:
I have enabled SMP on my gentoo AMD64 system and my box doesn't run any
slower (or faster).
As stated earlier by Duncan (in what I thought was a great explanation!);
If you
lost,
occasionally! g
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, as I said,
either one operates just fine on its own.
Hmmm... now that I think about it, I don't remember what models are
currently installed. Let me try a quick lspci...
RV 280 for both. ATI Radeon 9200 SE, and 9200 Pro. The pro is the PCI
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snapshot, with (now)
gcc-4.0.1. I haven't done so yet, and of course if I did, I'd keep the
other versions in binpkg form, since the snapshot is still hard-masked.
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Duncan posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,
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... I'm thinking about trying the latest, newer snapshot, with (now)
gcc-4.0.1. I haven't done so yet, and of course if I did, I'd keep the
other versions in binpkg form, since the snapshot is still hard
others) refuse to work correctly, until I gcc-config back to a
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(but not all)
relative paths. What happens if you try all absolute paths? Might as well
try all relative as well, while you are at it.
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the
dependency chain a bit. It's possible you could avoid it by tweaking
your 32-bit chroot USE flags. You'll probably want them fairly minimal,
anyway, certainly in the 32-bit make.conf, and make use of package.use to
turn on specific flags where you /do/ want them.
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a week, due to a disk problem. I'm not back upto speed just yet, but it's
nice to know I've been missed! =8^P
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LOL! It's even funnier when it shows up on the gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64
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regardless of the other kernel patches applied. So... in addition to
checking the network drivers, investigate the hard drive and chipset I/O
drivers as well, and confirm you ARE running DMA mode.
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your CPU handles SSE3? All except for the newest k8s do not.
SSE2, yes, SSE3, not until the newer ones. (Confirm that SSE3 appears in
/proc/cpuinfo.)
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/make.conf and just remerge.
Cool! Have you checked to see if there's a bug filed on this? If there
isn't, filing one, to help get this corrected for everyone, would be
useful. If there is, adding your info either suggesting or confirming
this workaround would be quite helpful.
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the /easy/ way out! =8^)
In any case, however, getting the feedback that the problem was solved,
and that it was a config issue, is far more helpful than not ever knowing
/what/ the problem was, so thanks for the fix report!
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in weighing
whether one is going to use it or not, it's certainly not the be-all and
end-all of definitive references to kernel suitability for one's
particular purpose, particularly if one's particular purpose isn't the
same and on the same arch as was Ciaran's when he tried it.
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scheme of things, play a rather small part in the communtiy
recognition of a kernel hacker and their particular expertise in selecting
and maintaining a particular group of patches.
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Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use
killfile it, as
I do on my mail client. The only reason I see your message here is
because I'm reading the list as a newsgroup, on gmane, not as mail.)
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natural due to the fact he was dealing with them thru
udev anyway.)
If that's changed, /please/ point me to a reference! I must have dropped
out of the loop somewhere!
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Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he
while it's new than after I build a bunch more suppositions on a
faulty foundation!)
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Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in
http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12
... The
knowledge gained at this point can be of help to at least two, and later
others, so it's not just me gaining immediate benefit, nor is it just you.
However, the research will work better when I'm rested, so tomorrow or
later this week...
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Every
today's
single-threaded games. If that's your thing, top-of-the-line single-core
is better for your money. Multitasking, however... Running emerges
without interrupting or slowing your desktop... dual amd64, whether core
or cpu, does GREAT at that!
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would deactivate itself.
Hope that's what you needed!
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and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman in
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update cycles of
~arch, relatively painless.
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to figure out what's wrong and get things up and
running again, no big deal, that's simply part of the challenge that makes
my hobby enjoyable enough to keep me coming back for more! =8^)
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Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use
and features under make menuconfig,
the symbol in .config is CONFIG_SCHED_SMT. Again, it should be disabled
for true AMD64s, possibly enabled for certain Intel CPUs.
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