Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-21 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 21-10-2008 16:09:12 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: As Gentoo Solaris would not be the same as Gentoo Prefix on Solaris, it should not share the *-solaris keywords used for Prefix via the same KEYWORDS-setting. what about a new generic schema like: CPU-OS[-prefix] with the possibility of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-14 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 19:59 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 13-10-2008 15:27:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:16:01 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless someone can say what using PROPERTIES=prefix would break, I'd go with that. It's a /classic/ usage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:16:01 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless someone can say what using PROPERTIES=prefix would break, I'd go with that. It's a /classic/ usage of that variable, as it's simply a boolean; PROPERTIES is well-defined and I'm hoping all the manglers support it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-13 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 13-10-2008 15:27:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:16:01 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless someone can say what using PROPERTIES=prefix would break, I'd go with that. It's a /classic/ usage of that variable, as it's simply a boolean; PROPERTIES is

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Long
Jeremy Olexa wrote: Fabian Groffen wrote: snip Most notably, in Prefix all keywords are full GLEP53 style, which results in e.g. amd64-linux. We did this on purpose, because in Prefix we don't necessarily are on Gentoo Linux. We also chose to expand fbsd, nbsd and obsd to their long

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-10-2008 04:21:23 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: amd64-linux x64-openbsd x64-solaris Is there a special reason why you're using x64 instead of amd64 in those cases? (IMO x64 is the most stupid name for the x86_64 architecture) AFAIK, that's not amd64/x86_64, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-10-2008 14:40:13 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - x64 is what the vendors (Apple, Sun) advertise themselves Err I'm sure I haven't seen any x64 in the documentation or advertisement of my MacBook Pro, are you sure _Apple_ uses that

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - x64 is what the vendors (Apple, Sun) advertise themselves Err I'm sure I haven't seen any x64 in the documentation or advertisement of my MacBook Pro, are you sure _Apple_ uses that totally bogus name? Anyway, em64t might be better, but then again

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:15:16 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, x64 is the marketing name Microsoft made up for x86_64 (aka amd64, ia32e and Intel 64), as Windows for x86_64 doesn't sound that sexy, and was later adopted by Sun and others. ia64/Itanium doesn't have any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:19 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. Some of you seem to have some quite agressive dislikement to it. In the end it's just a name/tag. I guess I could live with anything, including c3p0. Well, while I dislike x64 I'm more concerned about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Robert Bridge
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:56:37 +0200 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:19 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. Some of you seem to have some quite agressive dislikement to it. In the end it's just a name/tag. I guess I could live with

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-09 Thread Duncan
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:05:00 +0200: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:11:01 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: amd64-linux x64-openbsd x64-solaris Is there a special reason why you're using x64

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-09 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:16:10 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:05:00 +0200: On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:11:01 +0200 Fabian Groffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: amd64-linux