I remember distinctly that I once publicly proposed to change
http://packages.gentoo.org/ to actually interpret packages'
metadata.xml and displaying its formatted contents on every
http://packages.gentoo.org/package/CAT/PKG page
Excellent idea, it would be great to have that on the
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:28:05 +0200
René 'Necoro' Neumann li...@necoro.eu wrote:
Am 27.03.2011 22:44, schrieb Rich Freeman:
Well, but you need some way of communicate that certain packages are
w/o a proper maintainer. Why
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 03:58:05 -0700
Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
People tend to visit http://packages.gentoo.org/ when they find a
problem with a package, to find out more about the package, like who
maintains it. You
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:28:05 +0200
René 'Necoro' Neumann li...@necoro.eu wrote:
Am 27.03.2011 22:44, schrieb Rich Freeman:
Well, but you need some way of communicate that certain packages are
w/o a proper maintainer. Why else should someone step up? I, for
instance, was quite surprised about
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:17:46 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
I propose that we should be more aggressive about package.masking (for
removal) all maintainer-needed packages from the tree by doing that
one month after they become maintainer-needed. If someone doesn't
volunteer
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 15:30, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
Why does anyone need to *add* a package that is maintainer-needed?
Regardless of how we might want to get rid of m-n packages, I do
wonder about who commits them, and why. For example, while looking
into the list of m-n
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/26/2011 12:52 AM, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
Index: metadata.xml
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?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE pkgmetadata SYSTEM
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 01:17:46PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/26/2011 12:52 AM, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
Index: metadata.xml
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?xml
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 01:17:46PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can this practice of adding m-n packages to gentoo-x86 be stopped? If you
Nirbheek Chauhan schrieb:
I propose that we should be more aggressive about package.masking (for
removal) all maintainer-needed packages from the tree by doing that
one month after they become maintainer-needed. If someone doesn't
volunteer to take care of it, it probably wasn't important
On 03/27/2011 02:47 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jeremy Olexadarks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/26/2011 12:52 AM, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
Index: metadata.xml
===
?xml version=1.0
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/27/2011 02:47 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
If you prohibit people from doing that, they'll just commit it
normally, and then remove themselves a week later.
Why does anyone need to *add* a package that is
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/27/2011 02:47 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On 03/26/2011 12:52 AM, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
I propose that we should be more aggressive about package.masking (for
removal) all maintainer-needed packages from
Am 27.03.2011 15:30, schrieb Jeremy Olexa:
The tree has 679 m-n packages.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
If you cannot find someone else as a maintainer and someone is willing
to proxy me, I'd take dev-vcs/stgit: I use it on a daily basis (though
only to
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Dne 27.3.2011 15:44, Rich Freeman napsal(a):
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/27/2011 02:47 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On 03/26/2011 12:52 AM, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
I propose that we should
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:09:09 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 01:17:46PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
I propose that we should be more aggressive about package.masking (for
On Mar 27, 2011 11:01 AM, Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote:
And how exactly you want to track the level of failure for the package?
Since nobody is watching them already we usually don't know how much
they fail until somebody tries to emerge them from dev team or notify QA
by adding as
On 03/27/2011 09:08 AM, René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote:
If you cannot find someone else as a maintainer and someone is willing
to proxy me, I'd take dev-vcs/stgit: I use it on a daily basis (though
% cvs di
Index: metadata.xml
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On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03/27/2011 02:47 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
If you prohibit people from doing that, they'll just commit it
normally, and then remove
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Just start removing old[1] maintainer-needed packages. If people
complain, tell them to start maintaining it. If they continue to
complain,
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org
wrote:
Just start removing old[1] maintainer-needed packages. If people
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:30:16 -0500
Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
The tree has 679 m-n packages.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
I want to proxy-maintain app-misc/pwsafe. It hasn't been updated in six
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
It's really simple:
(a) If the package has plenty of users, there should be no problems
finding a maintainer or a proxy-maintainer.
Uh, I guess that's why we are flooded with people wanting to be
devs... There are
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Christopher Head hea...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:30:16 -0500
Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
The tree has 679 m-n packages.
Am 27.03.2011 22:47, schrieb Nirbheek Chauhan:
--- metadata.xml 22 Mar 2009 02:35:03 - 1.5
+++ metadata.xml 27 Mar 2011 20:46:54 -
@@ -3,7 +3,13 @@
pkgmetadata
herdno-herd/herd
maintainer
-emailmaintainer-nee...@gentoo.org/email
+ nameChristopher
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Christopher Head hea...@gmail.com wrote:
--- metadata.xml 22 Mar 2009 02:35:03 - 1.5
+++ metadata.xml 27 Mar 2011 20:46:54 -
@@ -3,7 +3,13 @@
pkgmetadata
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
It's really simple:
(a) If the package has plenty of users, there should be no problems
finding a maintainer or a proxy-maintainer.
Uh, I guess
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Sure, that's the history. But what made sense back then doesn't make
sense now. Back then we didn't have 600+ packages that no one
maintains, and
Am 27.03.2011 22:44, schrieb Rich Freeman:
We shouldn't be punishing people for not becoming developers. I don't
want to use a distro that throws up warning messages every few months
because some package I've been using had its developer retire, and I'm
a developer. If it breaks and I care
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:25 AM, David Abbott dabb...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Christopher Head hea...@gmail.com wrote:
--- metadata.xml 22 Mar 2009 02:35:03 - 1.5
+++
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:55:14 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
The current problem is burnt-out or semi-active devs who commit
occasionally, but aren't able to help with any herd-related work
because they're out of touch. As such, their presence in the team
gives a false
On 02:39 Mon 28 Mar , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Where did this come from? My entire argument was based around the fact
that unmaintained packages that may or may not be broken fundamentally
constitute a *bad* experience for the user. If we cannot guarantee
that bugs for a package will be
On 17:34 Sun 27 Mar , Ryan Hill wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:55:14 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
If we launch gstats *today*, it'll take us at least a long time before
we get decent numbers, and even after that, those numbers will be
biased towards those people who
On 03/26/2011 12:52 AM, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
Index: metadata.xml
===
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE pkgmetadata SYSTEM http://www.gentoo.org/dtd/metadata.dtd;
pkgmetadata
herdno-herd/herd
maintainer
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