[gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Leho Kraav
php5-5 vs python2_7 Why, how did that happen?

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Leho Kraav wrote: php5-5 vs python2_7 Why, how did that happen? Using the hyphen is cleaner, because the underscore is used as the separator for USE_EXPAND. (OTOH, as long a nobody will introduce a PYTHON_TARGETS_PYTHON2 variable, python2_7 will also work fine.) Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le vendredi 26 juillet 2013 à 21:19 -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. a écrit : The real question is, how realistic can we make a process of testing and moving to stable? We have arch teams, we have users... when several users say it's OK I think it is OK. As compared to a script pushing it to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Sergey Popov
24.07.2013 22:16, Peter Stuge пишет: It seems that for this package Gentoo QA can not realistically add any value to this package, hence my suggestion not to pretend that they can, and just remove the distinction between ~arch and arch for v-s, and make the latest version available to users by

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-27, o godz. 10:37:04 Leho Kraav l...@kraav.com napisał(a): php5-5 vs python2_7 Why, how did that happen? Because some people like to type 'php_targets_php5-5'. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Pagano schrieb: Team members working alongside upstream (and downstream) developer Greg k-h have decided to no longer request stabilization of the vanilla sources kernel. How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a vanilla USE flag to gentoo-sources? Best regards, Chí-Thanh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Fabio Erculiani
Some time ago I was also thinking about writing a test framework for testing live images through kvm. Of course I didn't manage to find time to try to arrange something in the end, but the idea is still popping up in my mind every now and then. -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH subversion.eclass] Export working copy information after the update.

2013-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-23, o godz. 20:46:15 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Currently, subversion.eclass exports working working copy information such as ESVN_WC_REVISION two times: once before running 'svn up', and the second time in pkg_preinst(). As a result, between those two calls

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: Some time ago I was also thinking about writing a test framework for testing live images through kvm. Of course I didn't manage to find time to try to arrange something in the end, but the idea is still popping up in my

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH systemd.eclass] Introduce systemd_is_booted().

2013-07-27 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-24, o godz. 09:18:13 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Pacho requested that to be able to warn users in GNOME packages that do not work anymore without systemd. Committed with a little more verbose description, and a MERGE_TYPE note. -- Best regards, Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] Autobuilds go to /experimental and to /releases only when someone actually tests them

2013-07-27 Thread yac
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 00:13:37 -0400 Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/27/2013 12:08 AM, Matt Turner wrote: (I sent this to gentoo-releng@. Resending to gentoo-dev@ for a

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
Hi, list! Many times somebody post buildlogs — they're translated to user's native language due to system's /etc/env.d/02locale. What about adding export LC_ALL=POSIX (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) to /etc/portage/bashrc by default (out-of-the-box)? That'll 1) fix buildlogs issue, 2) fix some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a vanilla USE flag to gentoo-sources? Then we might as well just have a Linux package with a bunch of USE flags -- gentoo, hardened, libre,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Manuel Rüger
On 07/27/2013 03:28 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a vanilla USE flag to gentoo-sources? Then we might as well just have a Linux package with a bunch of USE flags -- gentoo, hardened, libre,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: Mike Pagano schrieb: Team members working alongside upstream (and downstream) developer Greg k-h have decided to no longer request stabilization of the vanilla sources kernel. How about dropping

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Alex Xu
On 27/07/13 08:09 AM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: Hi, list! Many times somebody post buildlogs — they're translated to user's native language due to system's /etc/env.d/02locale. What about adding export LC_ALL=POSIX (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) to /etc/portage/bashrc by default

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:09:20 +0400 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov m...@mva.name wrote: What about adding export LC_ALL=POSIX (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) [...] We've been over this plenty of times in the past. Notably in March 2009, July 2010 (about python specific build issues), April 2011,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed topics :-/ 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers пишет: We've been over this plenty of times in the past. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:36:26 +0400 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov m...@mva.name wrote: Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed topics :-/ Please reply below the quoted text. 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Alex Xu
On 27/07/13 10:36 AM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed topics :-/ 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers пишет: We've been over this plenty of times in the past.

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Leho Kraav l...@kraav.com wrote: php5-5 vs python2_7 Why, how did that happen? We had some discussion of this a while back. RUBY_TARGETS is yet another permutation with no version separator at all. As for why it happened: the eclasses involved were each

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2013, 16:31:52 schrieb Jeroen Roovers: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:09:20 +0400 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov m...@mva.name wrote: What about adding export LC_ALL=POSIX (or, at least, LC_MESSAGES) [...] We've been over this plenty of times in the past. Notably in March 2009,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Alexis Ballier
The only sane default is likely a POSIX UTF-8 locale, certainly not C; some package will even fail with LC_ALL=C I think.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Berntsen schrieb: On 27/07/13 10:56, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: How about dropping vanilla-sources and adding a vanilla USE flag to gentoo-sources? Then we might as well just have a Linux package with a bunch of USE flags --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-27 Thread Mike Pagano
On Saturday, July 27, 2013 09:58:08 AM Rich Freeman wrote: Unless it were stable-masked it would create the exact same problem. ^^ This -- Mike Pagano Gentoo Developer - Kernel Project E-Mail : mpag...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : EEE2 601D 0763 B60F 848C 9E14 3C33 C650 B576 E4E3 Public

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default bashrc value suggestion

2013-07-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Jeroen Roovers schrieb: Unfortunately, gentoo.org's archive seems to be broken/frozen, while it is a bit hard to grep 3party archives to find already discussed topics :-/ http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_0ea6864e30d3a4d5319694afc18162df.xml 27.07.2013 18:31, Jeroen Roovers пишет:

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-07-27 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 5/20/13 9:58 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 5/20/13 5:10 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: This generally needs to go first so sorting by summary shows your packages in order and you have a chance to see this part of the summary in bugzilla (with version optionally), the rest of the summary

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-07-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2013, 21:29:15 schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.: The original thread got somewhat long, so if I've missed any other feedback on which there is a consensus, please let me know. Hi Pawel, a general idea that might be helpful: * document your policies on a web page or wiki

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] emerge: accept --pkg-format option

2013-07-27 Thread Tomáš Čech
Accept --pkg-format option which will override settings of PORTAGE_BINPKG_FORMAT. Currently takes choices of 'tar' (original gentoo binary package), 'rpm' or its combinations. Signed-off-by: Tomáš Čech sleep_wal...@suse.cz --- man/emerge.1| 4 man/make.conf.5 |