Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 18:26:04 Ben de Groot wrote: Mark Loeser wrote: Why can't this be on our official overlays? Is there a technical reason, because we seem to just be spreading things out even more than necessary. Because on g.o.g.o. we can not admin it ourselves, resulting in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: Josh Saddler wrote: Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not official. Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org? A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits them best; they

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 03:06:21 Thomas Sachau wrote: Ben de Groot schrieb: Hi, The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 11:08:34 Robert Buchholz wrote: In my opinion, the entrance barrier for devs is lower on git.overlays, there is no signup, password, mail verification required. There's scripts to keep the ssh keys in LDAP and on git.overlays in sync, and people can just request

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 11:08:34 Robert Buchholz wrote: In my opinion, the entrance barrier for devs is lower on git.overlays, there is no signup, password, mail verification required. There's scripts to keep the ssh keys in LDAP and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Federico Ferri wrote: note that for sound-related packages there exists pro-audio overlay my impression is that pro-audio really focuses on _professional_ audio software. that's two very different sets of applications. i don't see any benefits from mixing them, do you? sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Josh Saddler wrote: I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :) What advantage do you see in forcing people to have their overlays hosted on http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/ ? Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/11 Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org: Josh Saddler wrote: I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :) What advantage do you see in forcing people to have their overlays hosted on http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/ ? The advantage is primarily that we retain control

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 17:07:47 Arun Raghavan wrote: The advantage is primarily that we retain control of the infrastructure on which it (the official Gentoo project) is hosted. Yes, and this is the problem. That's probably why there's still no CIA.vc bot tracking kde-testing overlay on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
2009/8/11 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@poczta.fm: That's probably why there's still no CIA.vc bot tracking kde-testing overlay on #gentoo-kde Actually, you can totally blame Arun for this. *point* *grin* -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan GNOME Team, Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 18:07:47 Arun Raghavan wrote: 2009/8/11 Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org: Josh Saddler wrote: I'm well aware of that. It's A Dumb Policy(tm). :) What advantage do you see in forcing people to have their overlays hosted on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Arun Raghavanford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a non-issue. If others have had problems, let's fix that instead. How much effort do you estimate would need to be invested to have a webinterface (or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/11 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Arun Raghavanford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a non-issue. If others have had problems, let's fix that instead. How much effort do you estimate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/11 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org: [...] The advantage is primarily that we retain control of the infrastructure on which it (the official Gentoo project) is hosted. Sorry but IMHO this is not an argument. By hosting projects/overlays on gitorious/github we can administer them more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 11 of August 2009 19:38:48 Arun Raghavan wrote: This still does not address the original problem - if $external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us, (at least) that part of the project which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:26:17PM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: 2009/8/11 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Arun Raghavanford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a non-issue. If others have had

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
Thomas Sachau wrote: Is there a special reason, why we need to split things even more? Why not invite those devs and interested users to sunrise? Training ground for interested users is one of the main goals of our project. Sunrise has a very different policy (e.g. no packages already in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
Mark Loeser wrote: Why can't this be on our official overlays? Is there a technical reason, because we seem to just be spreading things out even more than necessary. Because on g.o.g.o. we can not admin it ourselves, resulting in delays and adding to infra's burden. Also, the web interface is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
Arun Raghavan wrote: This still does not address the original problem - if $external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us, (at least) that part of the project which is hosted on is negatively affected.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Arun Raghavan
2009/8/12 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org: Arun Raghavan wrote: This still does not address the original problem - if $external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us, (at least) that part of the project

[gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi, The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new recruits. I thought it would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Ben de Groot wrote: So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added. Good idea! Out of curiousity: Is a gitorious account a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Good idea! Out of curiousity: Is a gitorious account a technical must or would an SSH pubkey do as well? you need a gitorious account for commit access

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Ben de Groot schrieb: Hi, The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Mark Loeser
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: So hereby we announce the Gentoo Multimedia overlay. It is located at http://gitorious.org/gentoo-multimedia and any developers who want to join can let us know their gitorious account name, so they can be added. Administration of the overlay will be shared

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben de Groot wrote: We would like to invite anyone interested in developing and maintaining ebuilds related to multimedia in the wider sense: video, sound, tv, graphics and fonts. If you have any live ebuilds or otherwise bleeding edge packages,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Josh Saddler wrote: Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not official. Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org? A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits them best; they don't have to use