Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 13-02-2013 02:15:48 +0100, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:07:33 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Ben de Groot
On 13 February 2013 15:07, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/13/2013 12:28 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12 February 2013 23:28, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: IMHO the answer to these questions is not obvious nor given by (our) docu [1]. I'm pretty sure it was in the devrel developer handbook at one point, along with instructions to create your key, but I can't find it now. This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/13/2013 11:55 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml still no hint what to do on expiration (as every single other gpg howto). -- Michael Weber Gentoo Developer web: https://xmw.de/ mailto: Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 01:20:39PM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/13/2013 11:55 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml still no hint what to do on expiration (as every single other gpg howto). It depends. What do you want to do when it expires? If you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Markos Chandras
On 13 February 2013 15:31, Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 01:20:39PM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/13/2013 11:55 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml still no hint what to do on expiration (as every single other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michael Weber schrieb: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: as preparation for the up-coming cvs-git migration of the portage tree, the council is strongly suggesting that from this point forward all developers sign their manifests with their gpg key as described in the developer's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: This information, by the way, has been blogged about thousands of times. There is a reason people write documentation. Contrary to blog posts, documentation is thought out, reviewed, maintained and corrected when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Eray Aslan
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:35:56AM -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote: If you want people to handle security properly you have to tell them how to. In details. If not everybody will figure it out in his or her own way, all of them wrong. Get off your high horse and write documentation if you know how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 09:35:56AM -0700, Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Aaron W. Swenson titanof...@gentoo.org wrote: This information, by the way, has been blogged about thousands of times. There is a reason people write documentation. Contrary to blog posts,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 2/13/13 12:28 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the key or create a new one? Sign the new with the old one? If your keysize is still good, you should ideally update the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 13/02/2013 18:46, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: What is considered a good key size these days? As far as I can tell, 2048 rsa should be still fine. Just drop DSA and anything 1024 I would suggest. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Eray Aslan
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 05:22:14PM +, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: I agree. This is officially documented by GnuPG. [1] That would be the best source to use. It details everything one needs to do to manage a key pair. Good luck having people find and read it. Similar to (or perhaps linking to)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 07:58:30PM +0200, Eray Aslan wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 05:22:14PM +, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: I agree. This is officially documented by GnuPG. [1] That would be the best source to use. It details everything one needs to do to manage a key pair. Good luck

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/13/2013 06:22 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: There's nothing Gentoo specific about it. I don't see why we would need to officially document an official document. The most we should do is point people to the resource. So, please link to this

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On Tuesday 12 February 2013 15:14:15 William Hubbs wrote: All, as preparation for the up-coming cvs-git migration of the portage tree, the council is strongly suggesting that from this point forward all developers sign their manifests with their gpg key as described in the developer's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Peter Stuge
Agostino Sarubbo wrote: I'm using ssh -A to forward the key and I'm interested to find a way to do it for the gpg key. I found an how-to that uses socat ( http://superuser.com/questions/161973/how- can-i-forward-a-gpg-key-via-ssh-agent ) but does not work as expected. Did you debug? Rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/13/2013 09:07 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: As most of us do, I do the commit from another machine, not mine. So, for ssh I'm using ssh -A to forward the key and I'm interested to find a way to do it for the gpg key. I found an how-to that uses socat (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/13/2013 09:23 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: Rather than creating a TCP socket I would look into using the ssh -W option. gpg agent works with unix domain sockets. -- Michael Weber Gentoo Developer web: https://xmw.de/ mailto: Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Peter Stuge
Michael Weber wrote: Rather than creating a TCP socket I would look into using the ssh -W option. gpg agent works with unix domain sockets. I know. It would look something like socat + ssh -W socat //Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-13 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/13/2013 09:30 PM, Michael Weber wrote: GPG agents do not transport keys, just passphrases. To stress that, my passphrased key resides on my remote build-box, gpg just askes my local gpg agent for the passphrase. ssh -R /root/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:/tmp/keyring-michael/gpg b-4 with a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: as preparation for the up-coming cvs-git migration of the portage tree, the council is strongly suggesting that from this point forward all developers sign their manifests with their gpg key as

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the key or create a new one? Sign the new with the old one? IMHO the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the key or create a new one? Sign the new with the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:14:15 -0600 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: All, as preparation for the up-coming cvs-git migration of the portage tree, the council is strongly suggesting that from this point forward all developers sign their manifests with their gpg key as described in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would help if repoman noticed when you have FEATURES=-sign. :-\ https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457034 jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would help if repoman noticed when you have FEATURES=-sign. :-\ https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457034 We can do the opposite, and just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:07:33 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would help if repoman noticed when you have FEATURES=-sign. :-\

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/13/2013 12:28 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the