On 07/28/2013 05:39 PM, Duncan wrote:
I haven't checked the details and depclean does run far faster than
revdep-rebuild so whatever it's doing isn't as thorough, but depclean now
does at least some actual on-system checking before removing a package,
and will refuse to remove a package it
Zac Medico posted on Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:04:09 -0700 as excerpted:
On 07/28/2013 05:39 PM, Duncan wrote:
[D]epclean now does [an elf-based dynamic deps scan] and will refuse to
remove a package [if that turns up a dependency], asking you to
rebuild the depending package first to remove that
Dnia 2013-07-25, o godz. 17:07:00
Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 25/07/2013 05:17, Michał Górny wrote:
Actually per PMS you are required to revbump (and therefore require
upgrade on users' side) whenever you change the deps and don't expect
to add a new version soon
On 28 July 2013 21:11, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Now, what portage does is implicitly applying _some_ of the metadata
from the ebuild tree to vardb without rebuilding the package. In some
cases. As an effect, vardb is no longer self-satisfactory,
and represents something between
Michał Górny posted on Sun, 28 Jul 2013 11:11:13 +0200 as excerpted:
With a proper design, you have two 'repos': one with ebuilds,
and the other consisting purely of installed packages (vardb/system).
What's important, per definition vardb is self-satisfactory. That is,
dependencies of every
On 25/07/2013 05:17, Michał Górny wrote:
Actually per PMS you are required to revbump (and therefore require
upgrade on users' side) whenever you change the deps and don't expect
to add a new version soon enough.
Can you please provide a link/reference to that part? I am interested in
reading
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Shall we revisit that, and try to make portage behave more correctly,
even if it means more revbumps / rebuilding?
Just set EMERGE_DEFAULT_DEPS=--dynamic-deps=n in make.conf if you'd
like to test it.
What (if anything) does that break or
On 07/25/2013 08:29 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
Shall we revisit that, and try to make portage behave more correctly,
even if it means more revbumps / rebuilding?
Just set EMERGE_DEFAULT_DEPS=--dynamic-deps=n in make.conf if you'd
like to test it.
What (if anything) does that
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On 07/25/2013 01:28 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 07/25/2013 08:29 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
Shall we revisit that, and try to make portage behave more correctly,
even if it means more revbumps / rebuilding?
Just set
On 07/25/2013 11:29 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
On 07/25/2013 01:28 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
On 07/25/2013 08:29 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
Shall we revisit that, and try to make portage behave more correctly,
even if it means more revbumps / rebuilding?
Just set
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:48:14 -0700
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 7/24/13 8:31 AM, Alex Alexander wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:15:51AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
Actually, Portage normally handles this situation gracefully by using
the dependencies from the portage
Dnia 2013-07-24, o godz. 13:23:15
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:48:14 -0700
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 7/24/13 8:31 AM, Alex Alexander wrote:
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:15:51AM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
Actually, Portage
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:17:26 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Other thing is that Portage explicitly ignores PMS in this matter
and uses dependencies from ebuilds rather than recorded ones. This is
supposedly wrong, supposedly slow but allows us to be lazy.
It's not slow. It's just
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:17:26 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2013-07-24, o godz. 13:23:15
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:48:14 -0700
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 7/24/13 8:31 AM, Alex Alexander wrote:
On
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:40:48 -0600
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
Actually per PMS you are required to revbump (and therefore require
upgrade on users' side) whenever you change the deps and don't
expect to add a new version soon enough. Otherwise your changes
don't get spread and
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On 07/24/2013 03:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:17:26 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Other thing is that Portage explicitly ignores PMS in this matter
and uses dependencies from ebuilds rather than recorded ones.
On 7/24/13 5:53 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
On 07/24/2013 03:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:17:26 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Other thing is that Portage explicitly ignores PMS in this matter
and uses dependencies from ebuilds rather than recorded
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 7/24/13 5:53 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
On 07/24/2013 03:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:17:26 +0200
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Other thing is that Portage explicitly
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