Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. Okay, let's add support for CPEs at distro package level and sync up and down with the central packagemap database. Please contact me for

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Petteri Räty wrote: You need to come up with the needed DTD changes for metadata.xml. Last time the schema was changed it was done with a GLEP so writing one seems prudent here too especially if we are going to make the value mandatory after it was been added to all existing packages. Also

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-19 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Paul Wise wrote: The scripts were in my mail and the files are on every Debian mirror: wget -O - http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages | grep -h ^Homepage | sort | uniq -c | sort -n -r | head -n 10 wget -O -

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-19 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Neither of the gits gentoo has seems very split, I was referring to git in Debian here: Package: git-core Binary: git-core, git-doc, git-arch, git-cvs, git-svn, git-email, git-daemon-run, git-gui, gitk, gitweb texlive with (http://www.tug.org/texlive/)

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-19 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote: I'd like to determine the subset of URLs that appear exactly once in both gentoo and debian source packages. Mappable homepages in Debian: 6222 Mappable homepages in Gentoo: 9582 Shared (without normalization): 1183 With normalization for SourceForge,

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-18 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Pipping wrote: Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Sebastian Pipping wrote: I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. Okay, let's add support for CPEs at

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-18 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 02:09 +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: It could be interesting how much the list of homepages in say Debian packages and Gentoo packages overlap. Debian sid amd64 binary packages: $ grep -h ^Homepage

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-17 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Pipping wrote: I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. Okay, let's add support for CPEs at distro package level and sync up and down with the central

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-17 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Sebastian Pipping wrote: I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. Okay, let's add support for CPEs at distro package level and sync up and down with the central packagemap

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. Okay, let's add support for CPEs at distro package level and sync up and down with the central packagemap database. Please contact me for collaboration on sync scripts and

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: One of the stronger points for collaborating at the source is that poeple who are not Gentoo devs (yet) and therefore have no write access to the Gentoo tree can still extend and fix the Gentoo packagemap entries. Doing it downstream would

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Robert Buchholz wrote: On Saturday 13 June 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: One of the stronger points for collaborating at the source is that poeple who are not Gentoo devs (yet) and therefore have no write access to the Gentoo tree can still extend and fix the Gentoo packagemap entries.

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday 15 June 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: However there are a few more things to take into account, please have a look at my reply to Paul: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/popcon-developers/2009-June/ 001759.html Sorry for not CC'ing you, I should have though of that.

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Robert Buchholz wrote: The consumers of the PackageMap will always only use the central database. I'm not sure about that. I rather assume it will happen. Especially use ignoring the substitution map. I am convinced the project will be more viable if people can choose their level of

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Can I have a few more voices on this?: Would you clearly feel more comfortable and motivated to contribute to PackageMap if it works at your distro's source package? You are somewhat missing the point. My point is that most developers probably don't want to care

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Sebastian Pipping wrote: To count into the same bucket we use global identifiers for the products that fall out of a package. Gentoo package dev-util/git can produce product cpe://a:git:git, Debian's git-core can, too. That string before is a CPE

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-13 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Petteri Räty wrote: I mean making metadata.xml the authoritative source for mapping CPE to Gentoo packages. I don't want to see the situation when adding new packages to the tree would need some mapping being done in an external web service. Well, it's a nothing more than git commit and push

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: I mean making metadata.xml the authoritative source for mapping CPE to Gentoo packages. I don't want to see the situation when adding new packages to the tree would need some mapping being done in an external web service. Well, it's a nothing

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-12 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Petteri Räty wrote: Sebastian Pipping wrote: To count into the same bucket we use global identifiers for the products that fall out of a package. Gentoo package dev-util/git can produce product cpe://a:git:git, Debian's git-core can, too. That string before is a CPE URI [1], a concept close