[gentoo-user] Re: fglrx and posix shared mem

2007-07-17 Thread Xav'
Iain Buchanan wrote : Hi, for a while I've been seeing errors like this: fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!! on the screen when running screensavers, specifically mirrorblob. I found an ubuntu link[1] which led me to an ATI link[2] which said it is because posix

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup

2007-07-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
Mark Knecht escribió: On 7/16/07, Samir Faci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, So, I have a gentoo install that's slowly evolved over the past 3 years or so years. It's now so cluttered with packages, it's becoming ridiculous, especially for a headless server. What I'd like to do is be

RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread burlingk
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henk Boom Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:08 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? On 16/07/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because gplv3

Re: [gentoo-user] hald won't start

2007-07-17 Thread Alessandro del Gallo
moving it to /tmp and restart hald, becouse the error I got when launching # hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes is Unhandled Rule (0) so deleting the rules (delete de rule, start hald, if it doesn't works put the rule back , and move another) from etc/udev/rules.d I debugged the problem, the bad rule

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henk Boom Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:08 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? On 16/07/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Graham Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The four freedoms: Freedom 0: The freedom to run a program for any purpose. Freedom 1: To study the way a program works, and adapt it to your needs. Freedom 2: To redistribute copies so that you can help your neighbors. Freedom 3: Improve the program, and release

RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread burlingk
-Original Message- From: Abraham Marín Pérez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:43 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: -Original Message- From: Abraham Marín Pérez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:43 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: -Original Message- From:

[gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Mick
Hi All, This must have been the first time in many years that I cannot boot a kernel. I mean I cannot boot it at all! It just spins the disk at Booting kernel . . . Since I built this from a 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 .config file using make oldconfig, so I am not sure what's gone wrong. The only

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Billy McCann
On 7/17/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, This must have been the first time in many years that I cannot boot a kernel. I mean I cannot boot it at all! It just spins the disk at Booting kernel . . . Since I built this from a 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 .config file using make oldconfig, so I am

Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-07-17 Thread Iván Pérez Domínguez
maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, At tail of emerge --sync its says now emerge portage. So, emerge portage results in one package being installed, portage, 61kb. emerge -u portage lines up 5 or 6 packages plus portage, 18Mb. Can you tell us the list of packages it reported? (downgrade and

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 13:20, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It may be slow and stupid but it worked like a charm. Sure, but I have been using oldconfig for previous major

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Jul 2007, at 12:01, Graham Murray wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The four freedoms: Freedom 0: The freedom to run a program for any purpose. Freedom 1: To study the way a program works, and adapt it to your needs. Freedom 2: To redistribute copies so that you can help your

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 13:20, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It may be slow and stupid but it worked like a charm. Sure, but I have been

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Hi Billy, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 3:20:06 PM, you wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It may be slow and stupid but it worked like a charm. Open two root terminals and navigate one to

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:20:06 -0500, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It may be slow and stupid but it worked like a charm. 2.6.20 to 2.6.21 is not a major version change, it's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 14:30, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:20:06 -0500, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It may be slow and stupid but it worked like a charm.

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 15:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 13:20, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It may be slow

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:00:05 +0100, Mick wrote: It's not as if it starts to load the kernel and then fails. It just stops before then. Shall I wait for a future version? Am I the only one here with running a PIII that won't boot this kernel? Is it possible that your kernel image is

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 15:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:00:05 +0100, Mick wrote: It's not as if it starts to load the kernel and then fails. It just stops before then. Shall I wait for a future version? Am I the only one here with running a PIII that won't boot this

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Dale
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 15:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 13:20, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup

2007-07-17 Thread Samir Faci
I'm actually trying a slightly different approach that's almost equivalent to doing a fresh install. If I don't bork this up, I'll write a lil wiki on how to do this. 1. create a loopback file system. dd if=/dev/zero of=baseimage bs=1k count=5242880 (5 gig image) 2. partition the baseimage

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup

2007-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:51:06 -0500, Samir Faci wrote: It seems like the cleanest solution. if I run emerge -uDN (etc) world it just keeps pulling X and other crap I removed, and since 80% of what's on the machine it unneeded, a fresh start wouldn't hurt. Add --tree --verbose to the emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: Installation problems

2007-07-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:42:43 +0100, Mike Williams wrote: On Sunday 15 July 2007 22:00:15 Hendrik Boom wrote: Fixed /etc/fstab so that it now refers to /dev/lovesong/gentoo.  And fstab gets the message, because it now complains that there's no /dev/lovesong/gentoo.  And when I get a shell, I

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote: I believe that even Linus - who is noted for his long-standing opposition to v3 - would change his mind were he to experience this. They're using the operating system _I_ wrote to lock me out of _my own_ router?!?!?!? Linus has said it several

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup

2007-07-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Samir Faci wrote: I'm actually trying a slightly different approach that's almost equivalent to doing a fresh install. If I don't bork this up, I'll write a lil wiki on how to do this. 1. create a loopback file system. dd if=/dev/zero of=baseimage bs=1k

RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread burlingk
-Original Message- From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:19 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote: I believe that even Linus - who is noted for

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Machine Cleanup

2007-07-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 schrieb Samir Faci: So, I have a gentoo install that's slowly evolved over the past 3 years or so years. It's now so cluttered with packages, it's becoming ridiculous, especially for a headless server. What I'd like to do is be able to remove all

RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread burlingk
-Original Message- From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:20 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

[gentoo-user] Re: Installation problems

2007-07-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:03:57 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: It took some trouble -- as of now I only have emerge working in the chroot from Debian -- but after installing lvm2 it is not cheerfully recognising all the LVM paritions at boot. Ah! Stupid typo! it is *NOW* cheerfully recognising

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': TiVo did not allow modified, and therefore potentially Compromised, devices connect to their network. More than that -- they don't allow the compromised devices to boot. Of course, that's *required* to lay

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fglrx and posix shared mem

2007-07-17 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 7/17/07, Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote : Hi, for a while I've been seeing errors like this: fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!! on the screen when running screensavers, specifically mirrorblob. I found an ubuntu link[1] which led me to an

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??': -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henk Boom On 16/07/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because gplv3 removes freedom? As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation problems

2007-07-17 Thread Mike Williams
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 17:03:57 Hendrik Boom wrote: It took some trouble -- as of now I only have emerge working in the chroot from Debian -- but after installing lvm2 it is not cheerfully recognising all the LVM paritions at boot. All a good learning process, glad you got it working. Oh and

[gentoo-user] OT ( was : Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4)

2007-07-17 Thread Billy Wayne McCann
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 15:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 13:20, Billy McCann wrote: Hi Mick. From what I understand, using oldconfig for major version changes (.20 - .21) is a bad idea. Here's what I did. It

Re: [gentoo-user] portage inconsistency?

2007-07-17 Thread maxim wexler
Can you tell us the list of packages it reported? (downgrade and run emerge -u again). No, I didn't scroll and paste the output :( How do I downgrade? emerge -pC gives me an ugly warning. Can't see it man or --help. Maxim

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Remember that the GPL has always been about all the users NOT just the developers/distributors -- adapt it to your needs is not allowed when it restricts other users' freedoms. Very few GPL proponents are willing to make this (rather obviously true) statement;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installation problems

2007-07-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 19:44, Mike Williams wrote: What gives? Gut reaction, firewire. I've seen exactly the same on my own boxes. Debian is doing the same too, so I'd just go add a net.eth1 symlink change your config and use that instead, just don't remove firewire networking support,

[gentoo-user] Using oldconfig and kernel revisions ( was : Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4)

2007-07-17 Thread Billy Wayne McCann
Right after I sent my previous mail, it hit me that maybe a better topic than just OT would be better. Billy Wayne McCann wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 15:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 13:20, Billy McCann

[gentoo-user] XSESSION=Xsession doesn't work!

2007-07-17 Thread Stroller
Hi there, I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over 3 years, but mostly I only use it on headless servers, so I'm afraid I don't know much about GUI stuff. I've just installed Gentoo on my PS3, which I want to use mostly for playing DVDs at the moment (and as

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 15:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:00:05 +0100, Mick wrote: It's not as if it starts to load the kernel and then fails. It just stops before then. Shall I wait for a future version? Am I the only one here

Re: [gentoo-user] Using oldconfig and kernel revisions ( was : Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4)

2007-07-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Jul 2007, at 21:11, Billy Wayne McCann wrote: It is sometimes possible to save time by re-using the configuration file from your old kernel when configuring the new one. Note that this is generally unsafe -- too many changes between every kernel release for this to be a reliable

[gentoo-user] firefox crash

2007-07-17 Thread twang . umn
Hi everybody, I am a newbie to gentoo. These days I met a serious problem for me. When I using firefox to browse youtube.com, it always crashed. Even worse, the system will crash, not just the X, because I cannot login again after use ctr+alt+backspace. And I cannot get any error message about

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

2007-07-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 22:02, Peter Alfredsen wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 July 2007 15:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:00:05 +0100, Mick wrote: It's not as if it starts to load the kernel and then fails. It just stops before then.

[gentoo-user] root can't login on console, but can ssh...

2007-07-17 Thread Daevid Vincent
I have a LAMP development VMWare setup so that I can login as root sans password. This was working fine until something recently changed that. It doesn't even prompt for the password, it just timesout after 60 seconds. Oddly I can ssh in as root (without the password as expected). I have my

[gentoo-user] grub chainloader

2007-07-17 Thread Thufir
I've read the GRUB documentation, but still don't understand why the following worked: localhost ~ # localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(hd1,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo Linux root (hd1,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5

[gentoo-user] prune dangers

2007-07-17 Thread Thufir
It seems that prune would break all sorts of software, yes? In particular, GNOME and X windows? localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # emerge --prune --newuse --deep --ask These are the packages that would be unmerged: app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd selected: 3.1-r3 4.4 4.1-r3 4.0-r3

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash

2007-07-17 Thread Alex Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a newbie to gentoo. These days I met a serious problem for me. When I using firefox to browse youtube.com, it always crashed. Even worse, the system will crash, not just the X, because I cannot login again after use ctr+alt+backspace. And I cannot get any error

Re: [gentoo-user] hald is stuck

2007-07-17 Thread Michael George
Bah! It's happened again to my system. It was fine this morning when I left for work, but now hald-addon-storage is stuck waiting on Disk IO (state of D). I looked in the log and the only thing I noticed was that the ide-cd system received a lost interrupt and timed out errors on both devices

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fglrx and posix shared mem

2007-07-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 08:22 +0200, Xav' wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote : Hi, for a while I've been seeing errors like this: fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!! [snip] Essentially it led me to `mount | grep shm` [snip] and of course, this is already enabled. So

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash

2007-07-17 Thread twang . umn
Hi, Thank you for your suggestion. I will try that next time. But I know that the system can still play music by using other application. y On 01:01 Wed 18 Jul , Alex Schuster wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a newbie to gentoo. These days I met a serious problem for me. When I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fglrx and posix shared mem

2007-07-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 14:33 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 7/17/07, Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote : Hi, for a while I've been seeing errors like this: fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!! I had this problem because the way shm was

Re: [gentoo-user] prune dangers

2007-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:00:48 +, Thufir wrote: It seems that prune would break all sorts of software, yes? Yes, which is why the emerge man page states --prune (-P) WARNING: This action can remove important packages! Prune looks at each installed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-17 Thread Thufir
Oh. Why was the grub documentation not understandable like that? maybe I misread it. thanks for explaining! -Thufir -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader

2007-07-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 18:12 -0500, »Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read the GRUB documentation, but still don't understand why the following worked: [snip grub.conf] I would've thought that the chainloader +1 statement would be required --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
»Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Remember that the GPL has always been about all the users NOT just the developers/distributors -- adapt it to your needs is not allowed when it restricts other users' freedoms. Very

RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread burlingk
-Original Message- From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:27 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? More than that -- they don't allow the compromised devices to boot. Of course, that's

RE: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??

2007-07-17 Thread burlingk
-Original Message- From: Mike Edenfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:30 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? I'm not sure why that seems to be such a problem for GPL proponents to admit. It's perfectly

Re: [gentoo-user] XSESSION=Xsession doesn't work!

2007-07-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote: Hi there, I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over 3 years, but mostly I only use it on headless servers, so I'm afraid I don't know much about GUI stuff. I've just installed Gentoo on my PS3, which I want to use

Re: [gentoo-user] OT ( was : Cannot boot 2.6.21-gentoo-r4)

2007-07-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 14:24 -0500, Billy Wayne McCann wrote: My purpose for pasting this into this discussion is three-fold: to show why I said what I did, to hopefully dispel the notion that I merely made this all up, and to discuss the relevance of the pasted text itself. I apologize for