Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 07:31:21 +, Graham Murray wrote: That is as long as the hardware has graphical capabilities. A text (curses) based installer would also allow installation on systems with serial consoles (like traditional *nix system). A well designed curses application is just as easy

[gentoo-user] NFS and portage tree

2007-11-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks, here comes an interesting little problem. I have two boxes, A and B, both running gentoo. Box B has got a full portage tree, box A has none but nfs mounts it from B. This has worked for me for several years. Since some update lately, A can not nfs mount /usr/portage (or anything

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS and portage tree

2007-11-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:06:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Since some update lately, A can not nfs mount /usr/portage (or anything else) from B. NFS mount is broken. I know that emerging nfs-utils will cure the problem. On the other hand, I can not emerge nfs-utils on A without nfs working. Hic

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS and portage tree

2007-11-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 09 November 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:06:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Since some update lately, A can not nfs mount /usr/portage (or anything else) from B. NFS mount is broken. I know that emerging nfs-utils will cure the problem. On the other hand, I can not emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS and portage tree

2007-11-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:27:54 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Alternative, and less kludgy, solution. Tar up /usr/portage on B, unpack it on A. Too big a thing for A. There is a reason why it doesn't have its own portage tree. ;-) You could get away with copying only the directories you need. Or

[gentoo-user] re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread David Relson
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:30:24 -0600 »Q« wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:05:18 +, Guanqun Lu wrote: We can't expect that all the Gentoo users should be a linux geek first, and then have a try on Gentoo linux sytem. Why not? Gentoo is aimed

Re: [gentoo-user] re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 07:21:36 -0500, David Relson wrote: Some efforts were also made with the command line installer. My problem there was typing and overlooking details. If I mistyped something (or forgot to enter needed info) and went on to the next screen, there was no way to go back and

Re: [gentoo-user] re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 07:21:36 -0500, David Relson wrote: Some efforts were also made with the command line installer. My problem there was typing and overlooking details. If I mistyped something (or forgot to enter needed info) and went on to the next screen, there

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Eric Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 »Q« wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:05:18 +, Guanqun Lu wrote: We can't expect that all the Gentoo users should be a linux geek first, and then have a try on Gentoo linux sytem. Why not? Gentoo is aimed

[gentoo-user] Console with color graphics capabilities?

2007-11-09 Thread Matthias Kramm
Hi All, now this is a bit off topic, but I'm looking for an X11 console which can display images intermingled in the normal text flow. The following mockup gives a rough idea of what I'm looking for: http://www.quiss.org/files/gfxterminal.png . That is, I'm looking for a terminal emulator

Re: [gentoo-user] Console with color graphics capabilities?

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 15:45 +0100, Matthias Kramm wrote: Hi All, now this is a bit off topic, but I'm looking for an X11 console which can display images intermingled in the normal text flow. The following mockup gives a rough idea of what I'm looking for:

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} method for graphing server stuff?

2007-11-09 Thread Grant
I was thinking it would be pretty handy to generate a series of transposed (or not) graphs for data like cpu usage, mysql usage, memory usage, external monitoring response times, http traffic, etc. My external monitoring service has an API I can hook into and http traffic

[gentoo-user] X forwarding

2007-11-09 Thread Roger Mason
Hi, I wish to forward X from machine B to machine A via ssh. Machine A is running an X server. On machine B I have in sshd_config: X11Forwarding yes On machine A I have in ssh_config: ForwardX11 yes I can ssh from A to B without problems but when I try to start a simple application: B ~ $

Re: [gentoo-user] Is gentoo-wiki.com down?

2007-11-09 Thread Thomas Hobbes
2007-11-09 - Hard Drive Failure I would like to appologize about the recent down time over the last 2 days, the hard drive on the primary wiki server died. The hard drive has been restored and everything is back to normal. Later today or tomorrow, we will be getting a new hard drive to replace

Re: [gentoo-user] Console with color graphics capabilities?

2007-11-09 Thread Philip Webb
071109 Matthias Kramm wrote: I'm looking for an X11 console which can display images intermingled in the normal text flow. The following mockup gives a rough idea of what I'm looking for: http://www.quiss.org/files/gfxterminal.png Not what you asked for, but 'feh' (Portage) is an

Re: [gentoo-user] X forwarding

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 11:52 -0330, Roger Mason wrote: Hi, I wish to forward X from machine B to machine A via ssh. Machine A is running an X server. On machine B I have in sshd_config: X11Forwarding yes On machine A I have in ssh_config: ForwardX11 yes I can ssh from A to B

Re: [gentoo-user] Console with color graphics capabilities?

2007-11-09 Thread Matthias Kramm
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 09:08:05AM -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote: Ok so a long time ago there were these things called (text) terminals that were inherently text-based. Then along came these whiz-bang things called X terminals which were like the other terminals but could display graphics.

Re: [gentoo-user] tftp config problem (ltsp)

2007-11-09 Thread sean
Looked over the directory structure in the tftp directory compared to what was setup in the ltsp directory. Found some differences. Copied over a directory called 2.6.17.80ltsp-1 which contained all the needed files in proper placement to tftp under the same original name. Adjusted some conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread subscribed lists
Why not? Gentoo is aimed at more experienced users, Linux novices are already amply catered for by other distros. I would never recommend Gentoo to a new Linux user, in the same way that I wouldn't recommend a Ferrari to a learner driver. I don't necessarily agree. I've recommended Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting system stats

2007-11-09 Thread Mikko Ruuska
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007, Daniel Iliev wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 00:23:51 +0200 Aleksey V. Kunitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 07 November 2007, James wrote: All, I'm writing a piece of code that requires I gather the following statistics every second: - CPU Usage

Re: [gentoo-user] tftp config problem (ltsp)

2007-11-09 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:09:06 + sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decided to order a diskless workstation from http://www.disklessworkstation.com/ They appear to be a supporter of the ltsp project. why would you do that? Coudn't you build an excellent diskless host for less than they cost?

Re: [gentoo-user] X forwarding

2007-11-09 Thread Billy Holmes
one thing I have done in the past is turn up ssh in debug mode: /usr/sbin/sshd -p 23 -d then in another terminal ssh -p 23 $host once you quit that session, your sshd process will terminate -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Daylight savings time

2007-11-09 Thread Roger Mason
Hi James, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I I re-emerge 'timezone-data' and just wait until spring to see if there is a problem? Here is the procedure I used last spring (you'll need to set the TIMEZONE according to your location: (1) Sync. (perhaps not required if portage is fairly up to

Re: [gentoo-user] tftp config problem (ltsp)

2007-11-09 Thread sean
Dan Farrell wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:09:06 + sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decided to order a diskless workstation from http://www.disklessworkstation.com/ They appear to be a supporter of the ltsp project. why would you do that? Coudn't you build an excellent diskless host for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
Most of you can stop reading right now ;-) I can see that people seem to like Gentoo for different reasons. Here's what attracted me go Gentoo: I'm not a Windows convert. I started using Linux before Windows really made its mark. I remember when most people ran 1 or 2 Windows apps and

Re: [gentoo-user] X forwarding

2007-11-09 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:52:14 -0330 Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wish to forward X from machine B to machine A via ssh. Machine A is running an X server. ... did you ... - restart the ssh server? - try the -Y option to ssh? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting system stats

2007-11-09 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 11/7/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? I'm no expert in the field, but since dmstat was mentioned, this might be useful: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Detecting_your_Hardware#dstat_.2F_vmstat_.2F_free Regards, Liviu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-user] OT: forum - mailing list software

2007-11-09 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
It's a bit off-topic, however I have no other place to ask this question: Which online forum systems offer bi-directional gateway with email system. Examples: * user posts on forum - email is being sent to subscribers (that one almost any forum out there has out-of-the-box) * user replies to

Re: [gentoo-user] re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Mick
On Friday 09 November 2007, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 07:21:36 -0500, David Relson wrote: Some efforts were also made with the command line installer. My problem there was typing and overlooking details. If I mistyped something (or forgot to enter needed info)

[gentoo-user] Bash 3.2/3.1 compatibility?

2007-11-09 Thread Willie Wong
Hi list, The situation: I have some bash scripts written. The scripts contains a lot of string comparisons. Perhaps my code was buggy before, perhaps it was not, but the change Quoting the string argument to the [[ command's =~ operator now forces string matching, as with the

Re: [gentoo-user] X forwarding

2007-11-09 Thread Stroller
On 9 Nov 2007, at 15:22, Roger Mason wrote: ... I wish to forward X from machine B to machine A via ssh. Machine A is running an X server. On machine B I have in sshd_config: X11Forwarding yes On machine A I have in ssh_config: ForwardX11 yes I can ssh from A to B without problems but

[gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
An esync and emerge resulted in 62 out of 113 packages failing emerge with errors about no write access to /etc/passwd and /etc/group. This is a dual opteron system, ~amd64, with both kernels 2.6.22-gentoo-r8 and 2.6.23-gentoo-r1. This particular esync began fine, 113 packages to build. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 12:55 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An esync and emerge resulted in 62 out of 113 packages failing emerge with errors about no write access to /etc/passwd and /etc/group. This is a dual opteron system, ~amd64, with both kernels 2.6.22-gentoo-r8 and 2.6.23-gentoo-r1.

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 03:08:53PM -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote: ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd ... ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE =

Re: [gentoo-user] X forwarding [fixed]

2007-11-09 Thread Roger Mason
Billy Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one thing I have done in the past is turn up ssh in debug mode: /usr/sbin/sshd -p 23 -d then in another terminal ssh -p 23 $host Your suggestion gave me the idea to run sshd with strace, the output of which lead me here:

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 9. November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or some other access error.  But I don't have anything else to go on. As for portage, On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 12:55 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emerge --info Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/amd64/2006.1,

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:51:55PM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 9. November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or some other access error. ?But I don't have anything else to go on. As for portage, On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 12:55 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 09 November 2007 21:55:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ok ] ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd ... ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE =

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 9. November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean what emerge --info reports, that too was in my original email: oops... here is a bug that sounds exactly like your problem : http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198509 you can add yourself to it or post a me too ;) --

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 09 November 2007 23:11:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:36:48PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196720 ? Upgrade sandbox to -r2 ? Any idea how to actually do that, since the bug prevents me from upgrading? Is there

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 9. November 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007 21:55:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ok ] ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd ... ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 14:11 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea how to actually do that, since the bug prevents me from upgrading? Is there some temp hack I can edit or patch to get around the problem for now? The bug itself isn't described very clearly, not the comments with it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 23:09 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: [...] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196720 ? Upgrade sandbox to -r2 ? -r2 is bugged too: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198509 BTW I was not able to reproduce #19850 on ~x86. -a -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[gentoo-user] syslog-ng heavy load

2007-11-09 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
Hi, I observe that syslog-ng is flooded by BANDWIDTH_[IN,OUT] log messages. I've shorewall installed and I did not specified there to log any bandwidth log messages. Can somebody point me to the right place where I can turn off this log messages? -- best regards, Aleksey V. Kunitskiy my

[gentoo-user] Re: syslog-ng heavy load

2007-11-09 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
On Saturday 10 November 2007, Aleksey V. Kunitskiy wrote: Hi, I observe that syslog-ng is flooded by BANDWIDTH_[IN,OUT] log messages. I've shorewall installed and I did not specified there to log any bandwidth log messages. Can somebody point me to the right place where I can turn off this

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:17:33PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007 23:11:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:36:48PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196720 ? Upgrade sandbox to -r2 ? Any idea

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 9. November 2007, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 23:09 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: [...] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196720 ? Upgrade sandbox to -r2 ? -r2 is bugged too: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198509 BTW I was not

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 02:50:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:17:33PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007 23:11:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:36:48PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 10. November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 02:50:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:17:33PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007 23:11:26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:36:48PM

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 01:11:23AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Samstag, 10. November 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 02:50:36PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:17:33PM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007

[gentoo-user] CFLAGS for Pentium Dual Core E2160 ?

2007-11-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Greets, I recently bought a new CPU for my mythtv-box, it's a Pentium Dual E2160 Currently I use CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer as I moved the system over from a Pentium 4 (which just crashed). Things work fine so far, I checked google and

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 10 November 2007 00:13:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried and got this:     checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. and the log file says     gcc-config error:

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS for Pentium Dual Core E2160 ?

2007-11-09 Thread Qian Qiao
On Nov 10, 2007 12:19 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greets, I recently bought a new CPU for my mythtv-box, it's a Pentium Dual E2160 Currently I use CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer as I moved the system over from a Pentium 4 (which just

Re: [gentoo-user] Deluge of emerge failures (ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /etc/passwd)

2007-11-09 Thread felix
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 01:28:36AM +0100, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 10 November 2007 00:13:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried and got this: ? ? checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS for Pentium Dual Core E2160 ?

2007-11-09 Thread David W Noon
On Saturday 10 Nov 2007 00:30 in article [EMAIL PROTECTED] of linux.gentoo.user, Stefan G. Weichinger([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greets, I recently bought a new CPU for my mythtv-box, it's a Pentium Dual E2160 Currently I use CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer as

Re: [gentoo-user] Bash 3.2/3.1 compatibility?

2007-11-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Willie Wong writes: The situation: I have some bash scripts written. The scripts contains a lot of string comparisons. Perhaps my code was buggy before, perhaps it was not, but the change Quoting the string argument to the [[ command's =~ operator now forces string matching,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the 2007.1

2007-11-09 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, James wrote: If you do not like my opinion, you should look at what Daniel Robbins had to say, as I ran across a posting of his today, about this very issue. An awesome collection of techies does not gravitate users to join the ranks of distro users. A (easy) graphical

[gentoo-user] can't emerge anything, wrong files downloaded

2007-11-09 Thread fei huang
It has been a long since my last update to the system, found lots of weird problem today, 1. the worst among those was that I could not emerge anything now, the build.log for portage as an example: Unpacking source... Unpacking portage-2.1.3.16.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/portage-

Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge anything, wrong files downloaded

2007-11-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 schrieb fei huang: It has been a long since my last update to the system, found lots of weird problem today, 1. the worst among those was that I could not emerge anything now, the build.log for portage as an example: Unpacking source... Unpacking

[gentoo-user] vixie cron

2007-11-09 Thread Teng Wang
hey all, Recently, I set up a local news server and want to fetch news by using vixie cron. For security, I want to drop root to news ( only news and root can run fetchnews). So I add one line in crontab by using crontab -e: */5 * * * * news fetchnews Actually, I just follow the examples from