Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested LVM ? No. I'm so used to it I can't even imagine that

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested

[gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 10:06 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 00:44:51 schrieb Philip Webb: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Alexander Pilipovsky wrote: But how many space on hard disk for it will be good? I haven't followed this thread in detail, but has anyone suggested LVM ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerging procmail failure

2009-06-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:04:33 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: man ebuild I see no hits at all on either `overlay' or `layman' in man ebuild. There must be more to the story than just running ebuild commands. And expect the modified ebuild to be accepted by emerge. That's because the instruction

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:33:46 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: I tried too but it slows down disk speed to a crawl when there's disk activity by an order of magnitude (commands take 3-4 seconds to execute while without LVM they give sub-second responses.) Hmm, that's strange. I've never seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

2009-06-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:18:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I recommend putting -python in your make.conf followed by emerge -auDN world and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild. You might have to enable python in a few packages after

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:33:46 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: I tried too but it slows down disk speed to a crawl when there's disk activity by an order of magnitude (commands take 3-4 seconds to execute while without LVM they give

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:49:02 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: or you never 'saw' the impact because you are used to it. Errh, no. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-user] Re: PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 10:39 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 05:18:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/11/2009 06:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I recommend putting -python in your make.conf followed by emerge -auDN world and then a depclean along with revdev-rebuild. You might have

[gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 10:40 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 09:33:46 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: I tried too but it slows down disk speed to a crawl when there's disk activity by an order of magnitude (commands take 3-4 seconds to execute while without LVM they give sub-second

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: 2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: 2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there. I swapped to my KDE version of  

[gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Marco
Hi, I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv Helvetica:style=Oblique Helvetica:style=Bold Helvetica:style=Regular Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system. Nevertheless, they don't show

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:17:37 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: It's only there where's disk activity. For example, if I have 4 or more torrents downloading. When that happens, typing mc (to start midnight commander) needs about 4 seconds. It's almost instant without LVM.

[gentoo-user] Re: Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 04:52 PM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:17:37 +0300 Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: It's only there where's disk activity. For example, if I have 4 or more torrents downloading. When that happens, typing mc (to start midnight commander) needs about 4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerging procmail failure

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Harry Putnamrea...@newsguy.com wrote: Yes... except _OH CRAP_ I've forgotten whatever little tiny skill I once had to add a patch into

Re: [gentoo-user] PyQt4-4.5 and pykde4-4.2.4 blockers

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Today's sync includes PyQt4-4.5 which is blocked by pykde4-4.2.4 (incompatible and build issues). Apparently pykde4-4.3 will fix this, but meanwhile I need to get emerge world to run and complete. It looks like this

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Marco schrieb: Hi, I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv Helvetica:style=Oblique Helvetica:style=Bold Helvetica:style=Regular Helvetica:style=Bold Oblique It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system.

[gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread walt
Okay, my root partition is on /dev/sda (normally), which is a sata drive connected to the onboard sata controller. The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that forces the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, walt wrote: Okay, my root partition is on /dev/sda (normally), which is a sata drive connected to the onboard sata controller. The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009 17:32:18 schrieb walt: I've tried using a disk label in fstab instead of a device name, but the problem is that the kernel mounts the wrong partition before it has a chance to read fstab. fstab is the wrong place. It should be on the kernel command line (that thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Marco
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Florian Philippli...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Marco schrieb: Hi, I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: ~ $ fc-list | grep -i helv Helvetica:style=Oblique Helvetica:style=Bold Helvetica:style=Regular

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread bn
KH ha scritto: I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one because I don't no anything about how everything is working) what you just wrote is the answer. Like what are your needs and what resurces

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Alexander Pilipovsky
bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many experience yet :) bn wrote: KH ha scritto: I totaly do agree with you. There has been nothing indicated to give a one out of one answer. In case someone is a noob, ( I am still one because I don't no anything about how

[gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
emerge --depclean always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how to exclude this package. The manpage states: Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept. However, if I have sys-kernel/gentoo-sources in world,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Webb
090611 Mick wrote: I spoke too soon. This morning same story ... Menus are not present and running There must be a more intelligent fix to this than me booting into KDE every time I want to use a KDE application ? What's up with your KDE menu Philip? Were you able to make the changes stick?

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Webb
090611 Philip Webb wrote: You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE, then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox, then reboot see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again. Actually, there are 2 possibilities, at user login at reboot, so both need checking

[gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 06:46 PM, Marco wrote: how can i see if a font is a bitmap or a truetype? If it offers all sizes instead of only a few ones, it's truetype. If not, it's bitmap. I don't think a truetype version of Helvetica is in any portage package. You will have to grab the font from

Re: [gentoo-user] Lost free space on /

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
2009/6/11 Alexander Pilipovsky alexander.pilipov...@gmail.com: bn and KH, exuse me if I send not a good question, I have no many experience yet :) (try to avoid top-posts in this mailing list) I think it has already been suggested: Use logrotate to keep your logs down to a sensible size.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:22:41 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: emerge --depclean always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how to exclude this package. The manpage states: Packages that are part of

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Boris Fersing
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 18:45, Mike Kazantsevmk.frag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:22:41 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: emerge --depclean always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how

[gentoo-user] Re: Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/11/2009 07:22 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: emerge --depclean always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how to exclude this package. The manpage states: Packages that are part of the world set will always be kept. If you

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:03:31 +0200 Boris Fersing kernelsen...@gentoo.org wrote: did you read the first lines of this file ? # WARNING: default set configuration, DO NOT CHANGE. # If you want to change anything redefine the relevant section in # /etc/portage/sets.conf. Any changes to this

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and OpenOffice

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Marco schrieb: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Florian Philippli...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Marco schrieb: Hi, I am using OpenOffice and am missing the Helvetica font. If I run fc-list: [...] It seems that the Helvetica fonts are installed on my system. Nevertheless, they don't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Jun 2009, at 16:37, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, walt wrote: ... The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that forces the root device

[gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group, Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when most commenters stress keeping the kernel as slim as possible? In the help window we have 'If you have a system with only one CPU, like most

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/11/2009 07:22 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: emerge --depclean always wants to remove all but the most recent version of gentoo-sources. I read the manpage and can't figure out how to exclude this package. The manpage

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I exclude a package from --depclean's consideration?

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Mike Kazantsevmk.frag...@gmail.com wrote: So, my question: Is there a way to tell depclean to never remove *any* version of gentoo-sources? That's where portage-2.2 sets find another use. Just add following set to /usr/share/portage/config/sets.conf:

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when most commenters stress keeping the kernel as slim as possible? In

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread walt
Stroller wrote: On 11 Jun 2009, at 16:37, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, walt wrote: ... The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that forces the

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Maxim Wexler
On 6/11/09, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why, particularly when most

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Kelly Hirai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 the N270 is a single core with hyperthreading, which will apear as 2 cpus (with the same core id) in dmesg. k. Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Been tracking down other's

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/11/09, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Maxim Wexler schrieb: On 6/11/09, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Been tracking down other's kern config for 900A w/ N270 Atom cpu and notice, so far, everyone goes for CONFIG_SMP=y. Why,

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel config for eee w/Atom N270 CPU

2009-06-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Kelly Hiraike...@met.fsu.edu wrote: the N270 is a single core with hyperthreading, which will apear as 2 cpus (with the same core id) in dmesg. Ah, I forgot about hyperthreading masquerading as multiple CPUs. In that case, Maxim can safely disable SMP if he

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ESATA drive changes the root device -- how to deal with it?

2009-06-11 Thread walt
walt wrote: Okay, my root partition is on /dev/sda (normally), which is a sata drive connected to the onboard sata controller. The problem is that I also have a plug-in ESATA docking station, which is not always powered on. When it *is* powered on, my kernel names the disk /dev/sda, and that

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up hostapd...

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Norman Rieß
Grant schrieb: Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up hostapd...

[gentoo-user] wireless access point setup - bridging vs. routing (Was: Atheros kernel driver)

2009-06-11 Thread Stroller
On 12 Jun 2009, at 00:38, Grant wrote: ... I've almost got this working, but I don't know what to include in the /etc/conf.d/hostapd INTERFACES variable since I don't have a br0 device or configuration. Do I need one? If I leave INTERFACES empty and I don't start net.wlan0, I don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Norman Rieß
What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is quite usual though... Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected and can not connect to your wired systems.

[gentoo-user] Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my general purpose Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. Towards that end I'm looking at the Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide at http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/mythtv/ I

[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-06-12, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my general purpose Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. Towards that end I'm looking at the Official Gentoo MythTV

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is quite usual though... Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected and can not connect to your wired systems.

Re: [gentoo-user] wireless access point setup - bridging vs. routing (Was: Atheros kernel driver)

2009-06-11 Thread Grant
I've almost got this working, but I don't know what to include in the /etc/conf.d/hostapd INTERFACES variable since I don't have a br0 device or configuration.  Do I need one?  If I leave INTERFACES empty and I don't start net.wlan0, I don't have a way to define the IP address for the AP, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Grant Edwardsgra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-06-12, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my general purpose Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac

[gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my general purpose Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel Mac Mini. Towards that end I'm looking at the Official Gentoo MythTV

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Grant Edwardsgra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-06-12, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to have a go at replacing my dedicated Knoppmyth FE/BE box with a backend on my general purpose Gentoo desktop and a dedicated diskless frontend on an Intel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Official Gentoo MythTV Install Guide: never installs mythtv

2009-06-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:35:36 -0700 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: If you need help or jsut want to ask questions about flags or operation write back. It's just that I would have sworn I'd seen a pretty complete Gentoo MythTv HOWTO at some point, but I sure can't find it now.  

Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup

2009-06-11 Thread Graham Murray
Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org writes: What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is quite usual though... Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected and can