On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at
distrowatch.
Distrowatch isn't really an indicator of popularity. You'll notice that
distros rise up the rankings when a new release is due, because people
are
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
in comparison with earlier installations. None of the
- Original Message -
From: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cloning movie DVDs with dd - only works after
accessing disk with another command?
On 11 Aug 2009, at 20:31,
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:58:11 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I guess I just prefer this encrypted.dd.iso image because it's a
single file to work with, rather than a directory containing a mess
of .vob files. Or, at least, the mess of .vob files are hidden from
me. ;) I guess I've just gotten
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
in comparison with earlier
worse it is, but it's always a matter of time, and I don't have that
time -not to update per se, which I have, but to face problems in case
critical updates don't go smooth.
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
However, unlike a dog, you can
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 12:43:27 bn wrote:
So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -one
example is my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed, in
late 2007. I know it's counterproductive, because the more I wait, the
worse it is, but it's always a
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlushr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote:
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around usually
is enough to fix most kinds of breakages. Also building
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Ward Poelmans wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlushr...@unlimitedmail.org
wrote:
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around
usually is
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:13:18 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:
I've watched Gentoo plummet in the popularity ratings, for example at
distrowatch.
Distrowatch isn't really an indicator of popularity. You'll notice that
distros rise up the rankings when a new release
bn wrote:
Philip Webb ha scritto:
090812 Alan E. Davis wrote:
I'm a little reluctant to say this, but it's been a couple of months now
since I switched back to Gentoo, and I want to shout out my pleasure
that this system has been performing admirably well this time around,
in
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:44 -0500, Dale wrote:
I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If I
need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if the new
one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I do mine
manually and name them in my own
090812 Dale replied to bn :
I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -
eg my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed late 2007.
I keep at least two working kernels in /boot.
I do mine manually and name them in my own way,
something like bzImage-kernel
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:44 -0500, Dale wrote:
I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If I
need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if the new
one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I do mine
manually
Philip Webb wrote:
090812 Dale replied to bn :
I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -
eg my kernel, which is basically untouched since I installed late 2007.
I keep at least two working kernels in /boot.
I do mine manually and name them in my own way,
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Alan E. Davislngn...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it because I'm more experienced, or perhaps more cautious? I am running
~amd64, and have several overlays installed under layman. I don't know, but
I tend to think the distribution is more mature.
Welcome back! :)
I
Ward Poelmans ha scritto:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:28, Etaoin Shrdlushr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote:
Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a backup
laptop.
Keeping the previous (working) kernel, and having a rescue disk around
usually
is enough to fix most kinds of
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:20:34 -0500, Dale wrote:
I do it this way. I keep at least two working kernels in /boot. If
I need to, I can edit the grub boot line to boot the old kernel if
the new one doesn't work. I do NOT use the make install thing. I
do mine manually and name them in my
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:51, Volker Armin
Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
systemrescuecd is even more helpfull
Yes, but a ubuntu (or any distro) on an usb drive is more usefull
IMHO. An usb drive is smaller and less fragile then a cd so it's a
better choice when you are very mobile.
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Ward Poelmans wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 14:51, Volker Armin
Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
systemrescuecd is even more helpfull
Yes, but a ubuntu (or any distro) on an usb drive is more usefull
IMHO. An usb drive is smaller and less fragile then a
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:22:31 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the process of switching
from dial-up to DSL. :-D :-D
Running gentoo on dialup for so long, you must be the most patient
person in existence.
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:58:11 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I guess I just prefer this encrypted.dd.iso image because it's a
single file to work with, rather than a directory containing a mess
of .vob files. Or, at least, the mess of .vob files are
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote:
...
Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo:
like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it.
I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ...
So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it the way that I do. I have used it a few times
but
it didn't work like I do manually.
+1
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile install the kernel
any way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
So you trust make to supervise the building of a couple of million lines
of source code, but not to
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:05:02 +0100, Stroller wrote:
mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile somefilm.mpeg
No point though, really, is there? I mean, I'm happy with it this way,
I'm not short of space, and to me that just seems to be complicating
things.
Well it's a one line command, no
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it the way that I do. I have used it a few times but
it
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up the vmlinuz and
vmlinuz.old symlinks so you don't need to mess with your GRUB config.
But it doesn't do it
On 8/12/2009 5:08 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Mittwoch 12 August 2009, Mike Edenfield wrote:
$ make make modules_install make install
too much to type.
make all modules_install install
is much better.
I always forget that the 'all' target (typically) does the same thing as
just
My server box died last week, and, as it was about ten years old, I
decided to replace it. My wife and I opened the case and removed the
hard drive (A major undertaking for us, I might add). We hooked the old
hard drive up to a hard drive enclosure and plugged it via USB into a
new computer we
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
My server box died last week, and, as it was about ten years old, I
decided to replace it. My wife and I opened the case and removed the
hard drive (A major undertaking for us, I might add). We hooked the old
hard
I run one program which needs to be started as a particular user
whenever the system comes up, but there is no ebuild. Is this the
Gentoo way?
# cat /etc/init.d/rc.local
#!/sbin/runscript
start() {
su user
/path/to/program/binary
}
- Grant
From: Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:58:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Knock on wood
On 8/12/2009 4:19 PM, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 15:20, Dale wrote:
...
maske install does that for you, it also sets up
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 16:38 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
My server box died last week, and, as it was about ten years old, I
decided to replace it. My wife and I opened the case and removed the
hard drive (A major
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:
$ make install
supposes you are installing to the standard location.
I forget why off hand - probably due to the conversion to gentoo on the
machine a while back - but I'm installing to /boot/grub, not /boot. So
far as I am aware (I
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:40:49 -0700, Grant wrote:
I run one program which needs to be started as a particular user
whenever the system comes up, but there is no ebuild. Is this the
Gentoo way?
# cat /etc/init.d/rc.local
#!/sbin/runscript
start() {
su user
/path/to/program/binary
}
On 12 Aug 2009, at 21:58, Mike Edenfield wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile install the
kernel any
way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
$ make make modules_install
$ cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage
Excuse the top post - bb email. You might be able to change the hdd boot
priority in another menu to try usb hdd first then fallback on sata/ide
whatever. Also you might have to add a slowusb kernel boot param if after the
kernel boots you get a unable to sync vfs error when handing off to
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 16:38 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com
wrote:
My server box died last week, and, as it was about ten years old, I
decided to
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 17:11 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 16:38 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com
wrote:
My server box died last
Hello,
I have interesting problem. When I running a video (using mplayer) and
another window partially overlap the video window the X.org crashes
(better say restarts) and the login screen appears.
The log is clean. The graphics card is intel i915 (or i945?). Using:
xf86-video-intel-2.6.3-r1
On 12 Aug 2009, at 22:49, Michael Sullivan wrote:
...
Usually in the boot order section of BIOS one of those
choices will be removable disk or external device or something
like that. That will typically boot your USB disk.
Nope. The only things it has are floppy boot (It doesn't even have
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 23:22 +0100, Stroller wrote:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 22:49, Michael Sullivan wrote:
...
Usually in the boot order section of BIOS one of those
choices will be removable disk or external device or something
like that. That will typically boot your USB disk.
Nope.
Hi,
And another important problem. When I drag a window the mouse pointer
(including the window) jumping. Sometimes the mouse pointer moves during
the double click. After while the the mouse freezes and only switch to
text console (ctrl+alt+fx) unfreezes the mouse.
The dmesg gives:
psmouse.c:
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 23:02:58 Neil Bothwick wrote:
C: (n.) the language following A and B. The world still awaits D and
E. By Z, it may be acceptable for general use.
I sympathise with that. Nearly 30 years ago I found it easier to write in
assembler than C. Nowadays I don't program
Stroller ha scritto:
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote:
...
Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo:
like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it.
I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ...
So I am becoming very reluctant
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:07:22 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Why does everyone replying to my post snip the part in which I said
that I'm an old dog?
We were bing polite :)
--
Neil Bothwick
Never argue with an idiot. First, they bring you down to their level.
Then they beat you with experience.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:41 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I don't know why anyone would choose to compile install the kernel
any way other than manually. It's only a handful of commands, after all.
So you trust make to supervise the building of a couple of million
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
We can't take the hard drive out and put a different one in. I strongly
implied that my wife and I are clumsy. We don't have the fine motor
skills needed to put a hard drive into a computer. She barely had
enough
I run one program which needs to be started as a particular user
whenever the system comes up, but there is no ebuild. Is this the
Gentoo way?
# cat /etc/init.d/rc.local
#!/sbin/runscript
start() {
su user
/path/to/program/binary
}
Yes, or you could use
start() {
su - user -c
Dan Farrell wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:22:31 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the process of switching
from dial-up to DSL. :-D :-D
Running gentoo on dialup for so long, you must be the most patient
person in existence.
Wll, they are testing
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:51 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
We can't take the hard drive out and put a different one in. I strongly
implied that my wife and I are clumsy. We don't have the fine motor
skills needed to
bn wrote:
Oh no, other packages I more or less regularly update -now I'm just
behind with Xorg 1.5 because of all the horror stories I've heard on
this list.
Oh lets not even start on xorg-server-1.5. I already have a bug up my
butt about ATT and DSL.
I think I mentioned, -hal in
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:53:28 -0700, Grant wrote:
Hmmm, it didn't come back up with the server. I have this in
/etc/init.d/rc.local:
My mistake, I misread the path you were using. You shouldn't
change /etc/init.d/rc.local, you put your commands in
the start or stop functions in
=== On Wed, 08/12, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===
start() {
su - user -c /path/to/program/binary
}
===
That works as long as the binary forks and runs as a daemon. If not,
you will probably have to use the start-stop-daemon helper program.
-- Keith Dart
--
--
Keith Dart
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 18:51 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Michael Sullivanmsulli1...@gmail.com
wrote:
We can't take the hard drive out and put a different one in. I strongly
implied
On 08/13/2009 02:53 AM, Grant wrote:
Hmmm, it didn't come back up with the server. I have this in
/etc/init.d/rc.local:
#!/sbin/runscript
depend() {
}
start() {
su - user -c /path/to/binary
}
stop() {
}
restart() {
}
I had to start it like I normally do instead:
# su - user
$ /path/to/binary
2009/8/10 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk
On 9 Aug 2009, at 08:01, Andrey Vul wrote:
I somehow killed the dhcp in my openwrt router and failsafe mode
requires a static IP address. Stopping net.eth0 and then running
'#ifconfig eth0 up; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2' resulted with a 'No
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:59:53 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:
$ make install
supposes you are installing to the standard location.
I forget why off hand - probably due to the conversion to gentoo on
the machine a
Hmmm, it didn't come back up with the server. I have this in
/etc/init.d/rc.local:
My mistake, I misread the path you were using. You shouldn't
change /etc/init.d/rc.local, you put your commands in
the start or stop functions in /etc/conf.d/local.
If you use baselayout-1, the commands go
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