Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

2009-10-29 Thread William Kenworthy
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA Welcome to our world of pain :( I made some headway using -hal for xorg-server in USE, and IgnoreEDID and setting DDC to false in xorg.conf but the latest updates ignore those and the UXA settings in the link above (check the xorg log for other dirty

Re: [gentoo-user] Kgpg (KDE4) and missing menu items

2009-10-29 Thread Mick
On Thursday 29 October 2009 05:58:25 Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: Hi all, is it me, or does Kgpg (KDE4) indeed miss menu items for Keys/export , Keys/reload and so forth? I haven't noticed anything like that with any other application so far so I'm curious if that's something in my settings, or

[gentoo-user] Xorg slow after upgrade

2009-10-29 Thread Krzysztof Poc
Hello I've recently upgraded my system and I found that Xorg redraws the screenvery slowly. "top" shows me that "X" process takes up around 95% of the CPUwhile I have Intel Core 2 Duo.What's wrong with my system ?I have the following installed:kernel 2.6.30.7 #3 SMP (without

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg slow after upgrade

2009-10-29 Thread Arnau Bria
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:28:28 +0100 Krzysztof Poc wrote: Hello I've recently upgraded my system and I found that Xorg redraws the screen very slowly. top shows me that X process takes up around 95% of the CPU while I have Intel Core 2 Duo. What's wrong with my system ? I have the

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg slow after upgrade

2009-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 11:28:28 Krzysztof Poc wrote: Hello I've recently upgraded my system and I found that Xorg redraws the screen very slowly. top shows me that X process takes up around 95% of the CPU while I have Intel Core 2 Duo. What's wrong with my system ? I have the

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-29 Thread Stroller
On 28 Oct 2009, at 16:36, Grant wrote: ... I'm hesitant to leave my mail server's user:passwd in plain text in /etc/make.conf. The question that springs to mind is WHY are you hesitant? If you don't want your user:pass stored ANYWHERE on the system then this rules out SSMTP to your ISP,

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg slow after upgrade

2009-10-29 Thread Philip Webb
On Thursday 29 October 2009 11:28:28 Krzysztof Poc wrote: Xorg redraws the screen very slowly. top shows me that X process takes up around 95 % CPU while I have Intel Core 2 Duo. I have the following installed: kernel 2.6.30.7 #3 SMP (without PAE) -- i have kernel 2.6.29

[gentoo-user] Re (DONE): kde4 upgrading

2009-10-29 Thread James
Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: I think that alternative methods of approaching system administration are sure to bring their own problems and require an investment of time to implement, but I don't see how upgrading machines one by one is sustainable. Honestly, it

[gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread James
Hello, I've decided to just completely remove kde4(sets) and install kde4-meta. Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? I have some kde-3.5.10 and dependent packages, I'd like to retain, so keep that in mind with any suggestions. (kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 and

[gentoo-user] hal greps my USB printer - help !

2009-10-29 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, on one of my identical (believed) machines, hal greps the USB printer and disables CUPS. I.e. on one machine hal-device | grep -i kyocera shows that hal has grepped it. On an identical machine (with a HP printer) hal_device shows nothing relevant to that printer and CUPS is working on that

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-10-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! Any idea why this happens? It's no problem, I'm just curious. r...@tanja src -- emerge -a @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild R ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-20071214 [ebuild R ]

[gentoo-user] Re: public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com writes: [...] So I need a relay somewhere along with ssmtp to get a message to an email address? Yes, and I know of at least one that will work for you. If you have a newsguy mail account, newsguy's smtp servers will allow you to connect regardless of your

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:04:47 + (UTC), James wrote: I've decided to just completely remove kde4(sets) and install kde4-meta. Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? The set and the meta-package pull in basically the same packages. Unmerge the set,

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-29 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just read the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ But I am aware that solving this

Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG?

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 01:48 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 2. (The usual case). Your ISP only accepts relay mail from their own IP address range. While travelling this is unlikely to work. To be honest, I pay for my email and almost forgot about ISP emails. Most people I know use Yahoo or

Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernet card not working, tried tulip drivers... [resolved]

2009-10-29 Thread Marcus Wanner
On 10/28/2009 8:09 PM, Dale wrote: Marcus Wanner wrote: On 10/28/2009 5:39 PM, Dale wrote: Marcus Wanner wrote: I booted up the livecd and ran lspci -v, it worked great. I got similar output to that above, and found out that I am using a 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-10-29 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 29 October 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! Any idea why this happens? It's no problem, I'm just curious. r...@tanja src -- emerge -a @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild R ]

[gentoo-user] Lenovo USB Keyboard

2009-10-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Got myself a Lenovo keyboard ... a ThinkPlus Enhanced Performance USB Keyboard wow, it looked much better online than it feels now ... *sigh* I want to use that keyboard with Gnome (2.26 right now). I googled how to use the multimedia-keys already, seems as if I have to face some serious

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:04:47 + (UTC), James wrote: I've decided to just completely remove kde4(sets) and install kde4-meta. Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? The set and

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:45:54 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? The set and the meta-package pull in basically the same packages. Unmerge the set, emerge kde-meta then do a depclean to catch any stragglers. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Lenovo USB Keyboard

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 17:42 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Got myself a Lenovo keyboard ... a ThinkPlus Enhanced Performance USB Keyboard wow, it looked much better online than it feels now ... *sigh* I want to use that keyboard with Gnome (2.26 right now). I googled how to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Lenovo USB Keyboard

2009-10-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Albert Hopkins schrieb: GNOME has a settings for keyboard shortcuts. Usually you just have to assign an even to a key if it's not already assigned. Sure, I tried that but those keys don't generate an event there (within gnome-keybinding-properties). I use the evdev managed keyboard. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re (DONE): kde4 upgrading

2009-10-29 Thread Stroller
On 29 Oct 2009, at 14:59, James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: I think that alternative methods of approaching system administration are sure to bring their own problems and require an investment of time to implement, but I don't see how upgrading machines one

[gentoo-user] comparing two complex directories

2009-10-29 Thread James
All, I'm trying to find a good way to compare two complex directory structures to see what files differ. I've looked at a few different options: - rsync dry run (someone said this should work, but I'm having trouble getting good information out of this) - diff -rq (this works, but it's

[gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-29 Thread James
I have a cluster of Gentoo boxes I'd like to update all at once, along with emerging specific packages to the servers simultaneously. Does anyone have any experience(s) with a good utility for doing this? I've seen a few scripts online for accomplishing this but I'm not sure how these scripts

Re: [gentoo-user] comparing two complex directories

2009-10-29 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:35 AM, James j...@nc.rr.com wrote: All, I'm trying to find a good way to compare two complex directory structures to see what files differ. I've looked at a few different options: - rsync dry run (someone said this should work, but I'm having trouble getting

[gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Dan Johansson
Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the following: 8-- # emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use --with-bdeps y world --pretend --tree These are the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:39:27 schrieb Dan Johansson: Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the following: 8- - # emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall

Re: [gentoo-user] Lenovo USB Keyboard

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
I'm going to guess that the keyboard driver or something is interfering with the evdev driver? Or you don't have proper evdev support in the kernel? Or is your xorg.conf telling X to use a different driver? I don't have access to a Gentoo machine right now, but when I look at a similar machine

Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 20:36:27 James wrote: I have a cluster of Gentoo boxes I'd like to update all at once, along with emerging specific packages to the servers simultaneously. Does anyone have any experience(s) with a good utility for doing this? I've seen a few scripts online for

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Dan Johansson
On Thursday 29 October 2009 19.52:52 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:39:27 schrieb Dan Johansson: Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the following: 8--- --

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 17:04:47 James wrote: Hello, I've decided to just completely remove kde4(sets) and install kde4-meta. Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? A set is nothing more than a list of packages. You can even think of it as

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:45:54 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? The set and the meta-package pull in basically the same packages. Unmerge the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 21:08:27 Dan Johansson wrote: On Thursday 29 October 2009 19.52:52 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:39:27 schrieb Dan Johansson: Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the following:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re (DONE): kde4 upgrading

2009-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 16:59:24 James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: I think that alternative methods of approaching system administration are sure to bring their own problems and require an investment of time to implement, but I don't see how upgrading

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 29 October 2009 21:17:23 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:45:54 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: Are there any tricks to remove all of kde4, or do I have to do it manually? The set and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: On Thursday 29 October 2009 19.52:52 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:39:27 schrieb Dan Johansson: Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the following:

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:16:24 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: RDEPEND=media-libs/jpeg =media-libs/lcms-1.13 media-libs/tiff =x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.0 You don't have a choice. With ufraw you are going to get gtk+. Unless he keywords ufraw-0.16: RDEPEND=

[gentoo-user] Re: hal greps my USB printer - help !

2009-10-29 Thread walt
On 10/29/2009 08:11 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, on one of my identical (believed) machines, hal greps the USB printer and disables CUPS... Could you be more specific about 'disables'? I use an HP USB printer on a machine running cupsd and hal, and it works perfectly:

Re: [gentoo-user] removing kde4(sets)

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:17:23 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: Sorry, that's what I meant. I was thinking that unmerging a set was like unmerging a meta-package, that only the set itself would go. Ah, okay, we meant the same thing then. :) AFAK emerge -C @set will remove everything in @set but

[gentoo-user] Linux Magazine tests Gentoo performance

2009-10-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
I suppose this is interesting to most Gentoo users. Linux Magazine performed a detailed benchmark of Gentoo, comparing it to Ubuntu 9.04: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7574/1 The conclusion (Gentoo clearly outperforms Ubuntu) is no surprise, but it's still an interesting read. Before you

[gentoo-user] Re: Linux Magazine tests Gentoo performance

2009-10-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/29/2009 10:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I suppose this is interesting to most Gentoo users. Linux Magazine performed a detailed benchmark of Gentoo, comparing it to Ubuntu 9.04: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7574/1 Btw, I think this is a very nice example of why per-package CFLAGS

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage strangeness with imagemagick

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 20:08:27 schrieb Dan Johansson: On Thursday 29 October 2009 19.52:52 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:39:27 schrieb Dan Johansson: Today when I do an update world on one of my serves I get the following:

Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 19:36:27 schrieb James: I have a cluster of Gentoo boxes I'd like to update all at once, along with emerging specific packages to the servers simultaneously. Does anyone have any experience(s) with a good utility for doing this? Try out the debian (cough)

Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-29 Thread James
Thanks for the response, Alan. I haven't posted on this alias in many months, so it wasn't me who asked 2 days ago. ;) (nor do I see a similar thread from two days ago, but it may have been sent to the bit bucket, so I can't be certain) Thanks! -j On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-29 Thread James
I'll definitely take a look at this, Dirk. I just took a look at the dsh site and it looks pretty interesting. I'll have to try various different solutions (clusterssh, dsh, etc.) to get a good feel for the pros and cons of each. -j On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Dirk Heinrichs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linux Magazine tests Gentoo performance

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/29/2009 5:13 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/29/2009 10:45 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I suppose this is interesting to most Gentoo users. Linux Magazine performed a detailed benchmark of Gentoo, comparing it to Ubuntu 9.04: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7574/1 Btw, I think this is a

[gentoo-user] memory(gray matter) needs jog

2009-10-29 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group, A while back I needed help with an ext2 file system that required checking every boot before mounting. The drive suffered from errors involving 'non-contiguous files'.The solution was to run (this is where things get hazy) e2fsck option option on the offender. I keep thinking it's '-i

Re: [gentoo-user] memory(gray matter) needs jog

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:54 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: Hi group, A while back I needed help with an ext2 file system that required checking every boot before mounting. The drive suffered from errors involving 'non-contiguous files' I'm not sure what your problem was but this wasn't it.

Re: [gentoo-user] executing commands on lots of servers at once

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:44:57 -0400, James wrote: I'll definitely take a look at this, Dirk. I just took a look at the dsh site and it looks pretty interesting. I'll have to try various different solutions (clusterssh, dsh, etc.) to get a good feel for the pros and cons of each. There's also

[gentoo-user] Re: memory(gray matter) needs jog

2009-10-29 Thread walt
On 10/29/2009 03:46 PM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:54 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: Hi group, A while back I needed help with an ext2 file system that required checking every boot before mounting... I'm not sure why your system needed to be checked for each boot... Boy, my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: memory(gray matter) needs jog

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 17:05 -0700, walt wrote: I'm not sure why your system needed to be checked for each boot... Boy, my 'little gray cells' need a tonic, too. I've been using ext3 (i.e.with journaling) for so long I can't even remember using ext2. Wasn't it normal in the old days to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: memory(gray matter) needs jog

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 20:21 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: It's only if you force a fsck (e.g. with -f or /forcefsck) that it will run fsck on a clean filesystem. I stand corrected, it also forces a fsck after the user-tunable maximum time between fscks. -a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry Makovey
William Kenworthy wrote: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA ah, the magic word: GMA :) Thanks for the reference I have started applying advises from there so we'll see what will I end up with. Welcome to our world of pain :( it is quite surprising considering that Intel has

Re: [gentoo-user] Kgpg (KDE4) and missing menu items

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry Makovey
Mick wrote: Over here the keys export, keys sign and keys reload are present in the drop down menu under Keys as icons, but the textual description is missing. Same with the main menu buttons. keys export, keys sign are shown but there are no tooltips when you hover over them. Otherwise

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?

2009-10-29 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 19:50 -0600, Dmitry Makovey wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA ah, the magic word: GMA :) Thanks for the reference I have started ... which intel driver do you use? Mine's 2.8.1 and I wonder if bumping to 2.9.1 that is in

[gentoo-user] EeePC network problem

2009-10-29 Thread Philip Webb
I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA . There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet controller, which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci'). I'm using 'install-x86-minimal-20091020.iso' on a USB stick; it has 2 drivers atl1e/atl1e.ko atlx/atl1.ko in