[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But whether it is on tmpfs or just regular memory doesn't matter. Once emerge starts, everything is in ram including portages work directory which would be on tmpfs here. That's why it doesn't matter if portage is on tmpfs or not. Once emerge loads up the files,

[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But this is what you guys are missing too. If you want to use tmpfs, you have to have enough ram to begin with. Whether you use tmpfs or not, you have to have enough ram to do the compile otherwise you start using swap or it just crashes. Having ram is a

[gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross

[gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-07 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 07/09/12, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: There is another flaw in your assumption above. I already had the tarballs downloaded BEFORE even the first emerge. This is not a flaw in assumption. This is negligible. Fixing myself: s/negligible/out of the scope/ -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name...

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I probably broke my GCC Problem is following: When i try to emerge ANY package it fails with this : checking whether the C

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hello yesterday I

[gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Tanstaafl
This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current one breaks. I am NOT a happy

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:24:44 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? Since always if both versions are in the same slot, which is what I would expect for a simple upgrade. A major version step would be in a different slot

Re: [gentoo-user] static IP issue

2012-09-07 Thread pat
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 00:14:00 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 02:13:04PM +0100, pat wrote On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:00:22 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote Please post contents of /etc/conf.d/net -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 5: Twelve-ounce pound cake

[gentoo-user] Re: GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/09/12 14:24, Tanstaafl wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as something to fall back on if the current

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Markos Chandras
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my prior GCC around for a while, if not until the next upgrade, just as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-07 Thread Dale
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But this is what you guys are missing too. If you want to use tmpfs, you have to have enough ram to begin with. Whether you use tmpfs or not, you have to have enough ram to do the compile otherwise you start using swap or it just crashes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-07 Thread Dale
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: The 06/09/12, Dale wrote: But whether it is on tmpfs or just regular memory doesn't matter. Once emerge starts, everything is in ram including portages work directory which would be on tmpfs here. That's why it doesn't matter if portage is on tmpfs or not. Once

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior GCC install??? I have *always* kept my

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Markos Chandras
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Markos Chandras
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC

[gentoo-user] Re: GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-09-07, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: This always happens if the gcc your are upgrading to is in the same slot as the previous one. Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-09-07 9:12 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Well, I've been managing this gentoo server since I installed it over 8 years ago, and I don't *ever* recall a GCC upgrade removing my prior version.

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-09-07 9:22 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just ignore it. And calling someone who is trying to help you stupid is not very

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-09-07 9:22 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Don't be stupid. I see that all the time... if you don't like it just

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I guess the only explanation if what you guys are saying is correct is that I've never done a minor upgrade for the version in the current slot... Basically any slotted package works this way. Upgrades within the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:46 AM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49,

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: On 2012-09-07 11:49, Andrey Moshbear

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 13:04, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 12:46 +0200, Samuraiii

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 18:09, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 18:03, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:37, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:04 AM, William Kenworthy

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 07.09.2012 14:53, schrieb Tanstaafl: On 2012-09-07 7:44 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: This has never happened to me before... Since when did a simple GCC upgrade *automatically* REMOVE my prior

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 18:09, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 17:44, Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Samuraiii

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo? Google doesn't seem to give any usable answers (I don't need configure binhost yet) While I can make a binpkg for gcc:{4,5,4.6,4.7} or glibc-2.15-r2 on my c2d-penryn

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Fix for getting libxml2 compiled!

2012-09-07 Thread Doug Hunley
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roland Häder r.hae...@web.de wrote: Weird, I'm on 2.8.0-r1 and didn't have to do any hoop jumping to get there (~amd64). Yes, it is really weird thing. :/ I use x86 (i686, my laptop does only support 32 bit; it is a Thinkpad R51). Did you check b.g.o to see

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

2012-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:25:42 -0500, Dale wrote: Since when you run emerge it loads everything into ram, regardless of whether portages work directory is on tmpfs or not, it doesn't matter. This test is NOT about portage loading things into ram WHILE emerging, it was about having the work

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:26:40 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: Well, then this simple little command should help you refresh your memory. It shows every install and uninstall of gcc on your system. With 8 years of emerge.log you are good to go genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-07 19:38, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo? Google doesn't seem to give any usable answers (I don't need configure binhost yet) While I can make a binpkg for

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 07.09.2012 21:52, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:26:40 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: Well, then this simple little command should help you refresh your memory. It shows every install and uninstall of gcc on your system. With 8 years of emerge.log you are good to go

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:14:05 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And this week's prize for unnecessary use of pipes and grep goes to... genlop -u sys-devel/gcc Nope, we not only need the time when gcc was unmerged (-u), but also when it was

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade from 4.5.3 to 4.5.4 automatically removes 4.5.3???? Wtf???

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Hampicke
2012/9/8 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:14:05 +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote: genlop -ul | grep 'sys-devel/gcc-[0-9]' And this week's prize for unnecessary use of pipes and grep goes to... genlop -u sys-devel/gcc Nope, we not only need the time when gcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Broken GCC

2012-09-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-09-07 19:38, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Samuraiii samurai.no.d...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any tips for gentoo amd64 with core2duo? Google doesn't seem to give any usable

[gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses readline USE flag

2012-09-07 Thread Walter Dnes
I updated world yesterday, and discovered that bash functionality was severly degraded on my machine. No up-arrow to scroll through history, no tab-completion, etc, etc. A bit of Google searching turned up the fact that bash no-longer uses an internal readline library, but now depends on the