I've only ever used systems with a single CPU. I'm looking for a new
host
for a dedicated server (suggestions?) and it looks like I'll probably
choose a machine with two or four CPUs. What sort of complications
does
that add to set up and/or maintenance with Gentoo?
none
also,
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
So if I have 2 physical CPU's with 4 cores each and I enable SMP, I'm using
8 cores? Can NUMA be either enabled or disabled when using more than one
physical CPU, or is it required?
NUMA is a hardware architecture.
Am 14.12.2012 08:49, schrieb Grant:
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server
concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the
same price point far outperforms it.
- Grant
So if I have 2 physical CPU's with 4 cores each and I enable SMP, I'm
using
8 cores? Can NUMA be either enabled or disabled when using more than
one
physical CPU, or is it required?
NUMA is a hardware architecture. It's how you access memory on a
hardware level: NUMA = Non Uniform
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server
concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the
same price point far outperforms it.
- Grant
Last time I did the calculation,
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
So if I have 2 physical CPU's with 4 cores each and I enable SMP, I'm
using
8 cores? Can NUMA be either enabled or disabled when using more than
one
physical CPU, or is it required?
NUMA is a hardware architecture.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012, at 19:22, Francesco Turco wrote:
I'm still not convinced. emerge(1) man page for portage-2.1.11.37
already contains the following command example:
emerge --update --newuse --deep @world
And:
emerge --update @world
But not a single example without the at sign.
Howdy,
I noticed eudev has hit the tree. Has anyone used it yet? If so, any
issues? Did you just uninstall udev and install eudev in one step or
some other way?
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy but curious
as to what others may have ran into.
Thanks much.
Dale
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:49:23PM -0800, Grant wrote:
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud server
from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server concept is
amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the same price
point far outperforms
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:39:03 -0600
Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:49:23PM -0800, Grant wrote:
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud
server concept is
Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability
compared to dedicated?
Perhaps at your price point through redundancy which could be applied
to dedicated all be it at higher cost and so potentially still more
reliable and certainly more secure and also tested in almost any
On 14/12/12 14:19, Dale wrote:
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
Huh?
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:00:54 -0800
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud
server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated
server at the same
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 14/12/12 14:19, Dale wrote:
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
Huh
Right now, I have /usr on a separate partition so I would need a init
thingy to boot. When I switch to eudev, that won't be required, from
what I have read anyway.
I
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:39:03 -0600
Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
My data is allergic to the cloud ... too much pixey dust.
If I get up from my desk, walk down the corridor and turn right, I find
myself
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:24:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability
compared to dedicated?
Potentially? Yes.
In reality? No.
It's not the virtualization that breaks, it's all the surrounding
infrastructure,
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:41:45AM -0600, Dale wrote:
Right now, I have /usr on a separate partition so I would need a init
thingy to boot. When I switch to eudev, that won't be required, from
what I have read anyway.
I didn't want the init thingy to begin with either.
Dale
Let me
Bruce Hill wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:41:45AM -0600, Dale wrote:
Right now, I have /usr on a separate partition so I would need a init
thingy to boot. When I switch to eudev, that won't be required, from
what I have read anyway.
I didn't want the init thingy to begin with either.
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I noticed eudev has hit the tree. Has anyone used it yet? If so, any
issues? Did you just uninstall udev and install eudev in one step or
some other way?
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:25:08AM -0600, Dale wrote:
Pretty much yea. I started making a init thing when they were talking
about not supporting /usr on a separate partition. Then about a month
ago eudev was announced which means we can boot with /usr on a separate
partition and no init
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I noticed eudev has hit the tree. Has anyone used it yet? If so, any
issues? Did you just uninstall udev and install eudev in one step or
some other way?
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I noticed eudev has hit the tree. Has anyone used it yet? If so, any
issues? Did you just uninstall udev and install eudev in one
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:48:12AM -0600, Dale wrote:
Well, it appears that one version is stable:
root@fireball / # equery list -p eudev
* Searching for eudev ...
[-P-] [ ] sys-fs/eudev-0:0
[-P-] [ ~] sys-fs/eudev-1_beta1-r1:0
[-P-] [ -] sys-fs/eudev-:0
root@fireball / #
The
Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system last
night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I may have to
buy a replacement system. I have external USB drive backups, but the only
other computer I have right now is an old Mac laptop which
On 2012-12-14 10:39 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
What Mark wrote you is golden. I might only add that if you put:
=sys-fs/udev-181
into
/etc/portage/package.mask
you will have the present stable udev from*before* those weirdos starting
messing it up, forcing
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:26:25 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/12/12 14:19, Dale wrote:
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
Huh?
Once upon a time, not so long ago, Dale happened to try and make an
initrd. He followed the rules and the docs and
(Admittedly quick and dirty response)
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18 AM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system
last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I may
have to buy a replacement system. I have
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy,
I noticed eudev has hit the tree. Has anyone used it yet? If so, any
issues? Did you just uninstall udev and
Bruce Hill wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:48:12AM -0600, Dale wrote:
Well, it appears that one version is stable:
root@fireball / # equery list -p eudev
* Searching for eudev ...
[-P-] [ ] sys-fs/eudev-0:0
[-P-] [ ~] sys-fs/eudev-1_beta1-r1:0
[-P-] [ -] sys-fs/eudev-:0
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Long live Dale.
+1
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:26:25 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/12/12 14:19, Dale wrote:
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
Huh?
Once upon a time, not so long ago,
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:28:41AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote:
(Admittedly quick and dirty response)
Much appreciated. Gives me some hope ...
Pull out an old PS2 keyboard. Sometimes, that's the easiest way to get
things going.
I thought of that -- don't have any. They all got recycled a few
Am 14.12.2012 11:00, schrieb Grant:
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud server
concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated server at the
same price point far outperforms it.
-
Am 14.12.2012 17:18, schrieb fe...@crowfix.com:
Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64
system last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up
yet, but I may have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB
drive backups, but the only other
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:26:25 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/12/12 14:19, Dale wrote:
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
Huh?
Once upon a time, not so long ago, Dale happened to try and make an
initrd. He followed the
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
That's all true, hence my question. I'm not sure I want to use the very
first version so I thought it worth asking first. Since it is a fork,
one could think it would be safe enough but then again, it is the very
first one.
Michael Mol wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:26:25 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/12/12 14:19, Dale wrote:
I'm thinking of switching and getting rid of the init thingy
Huh?
Once upon a
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 07:29:21PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
SLAX is using KDE4 - and uses 200mb.
KDE is flexible. If you have lots of memory, it does use lots of
memory. If you don't it doesn't. So don't group it together with
'lets force mono unto our users - for a notes
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
That's all true, hence my question. I'm not sure I want to use the very
first version so I thought it worth asking first. Since it is a fork,
one could think it would be safe enough but then again, it is the
Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2012, 11:18:21 schrieb fe...@crowfix.com:
Something went haywire with my 8 or 9 year old dual Opteron ~amd64 system
last night. I may have a bricked system. I haven't given up yet, but I
may have to buy a replacement system. I have external USB drive backups,
but
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:20:05AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2012-12-14 10:39 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
What Mark wrote you is golden. I might only add that if you put:
=sys-fs/udev-181
into
/etc/portage/package.mask
you will have the present
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 06:22:10PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
how about a more stable kernel - like 3.4.X?
It was running 3.6.8 fine, and ~ kernels for ages before that.
The paranoid in me thinks it was 3.7.0, but I really don't know.
and yes, a confused bios can do a lot of strange
I'm updating a system that's probably gone 2 or 3 months since its
last update.
!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel has unmet
requirements.
- x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.20.13::gentoo USE=dri
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52:12AM -0600, Dale wrote:
I have the flu, nasty one at that, and I really don't need to add hal to
my list right now. That said, the Doctor called and the blood tests
said I was healthy as a horse, other than being sick as a dog. :/
Sort of like software,
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I'm updating a system that's probably gone 2 or 3 months since its
last update.
!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel has
Cloud services are often far more expensive, I work with someone who did a
fair amount of research of the various costs of clouds. They are good for
dynamic scaling of resources but if your concentrating on one server or
another its likely your server load isn't highly intensive and a single
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile
to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks and
keyboard? I will find out. My best guess right now is that booting
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:16:46PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:18:21AM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I will try some more desperate tricks today, like reconnecting the USB pile
to see if it at least boots the disks again - is my choice between disks
and
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:24:10PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
That's what I've been using.
But the hardware failure is illogical too; why would USB and SATA fail at the
same time? Or why would southbridge fail when it had been running perfectly
fine?
I don't really think it was
Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2012, 12:16:46 schrieb Bruce Hill:
Whatever you think of logic, it is entirely illogical that a kernel could
kill your BIOS, or any hardware ... at least, just booting into it.
emm, not, it isn't.
--
#163933
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt?
Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or
the rescue DVD would take over.
Yes, your southbridge chipset could just happened to have failed
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt?
Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or
the rescue DVD would take over.
Yes,
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:43:01PM -0500, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:34:49PM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
Boot with SystemRescueCd and you can't get to a prompt?
Currently can't even boot -- it hangs wit a blank screen at the point grub or
the rescue DVD would take
Sorry, you're right, I'll go back to sleep now... ;)
I spoke without looking, and indeed my mask is set to =181
On 2012-12-14 12:34 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:20:05AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2012-12-14 10:39 AM, Bruce
I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it
did.
It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the hint,
grab a clue, and start researching a replacement.
--
Felix Finch, a la mode
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it
did.
It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the hint,
grab a clue, and start researching a replacement.
I think you'll find
Am 14.12.2012 18:56, schrieb Mark Knecht:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I'm updating a system that's probably gone 2 or 3 months since its
last update.
!!! The ebuild selected
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
If you don't miss features I say good riddance to xorg.conf.
Regards,
Florian Philipp
Yeah, I agree in general, but in this case how does one determine that
on a remote machine? I run KDE, my dad runs Gnome. How
Bruce Hill wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52:12AM -0600, Dale wrote:
I have the flu, nasty one at that, and I really don't need to add hal to
my list right now. That said, the Doctor called and the blood tests
said I was healthy as a horse, other than being sick as a dog. :/
Sort of
Michael Mol wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:51 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I finally ran out of excuses to not reboot after a night powered off, and it
did.
It's all running normally now, but I think it's time for me to take the
hint, grab a clue, and start researching a replacement.
I
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:53:35 -0800
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess the other question that's lurking here for me is why do you
have /usr on a separate partition? What's the usage model that drives
a person to do that? The most I've ever done is move /usr/portage and
/usr/src
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 03:19:53PM -0600, Dale wrote:
I did some math, my new rig is almost 8 times faster/powerful than my
old rig but pulls much less than half the power even when fully loaded.
I might add, I think the old rig was idle when I measured that.
My next box will be a commodity
Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud
server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated
server at the same price point far outperforms it.
- Grant
Last time I did
So if I have 2 physical CPU's with 4 cores each and I enable SMP, I'm
using
8 cores? Can NUMA be either enabled or disabled when using more than
one
physical CPU, or is it required?
NUMA is a hardware architecture. It's how you access memory on a
hardware level: NUMA = Non
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 09:16:58AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
* The last thing I’m going to set up is filesystem encryption, at least
for ~.
I already know/think that AES would be the best choice due to limited
CPU
power, but what else is there to heed besides key size?
On Thursday 13 Dec 2012 14:13:56 Bruce Hill wrote:
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 08:44:45AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
NUMA is also an option in the kernel. Should also be fully transparent.
I got one machine with NUMA and only had to set an option for it.
Does anyone know how to check it's
Thanks Michael. I'd like to have more control over when the commands
are run. Maybe the system crontab (cronbase) should be used when that
control isn't necessary or to allow programs to add stuff to a crontab,
and a user crontab should be used when more control is necessary?
I
So if I have 2 physical CPU's with 4 cores each and I enable SMP,
I'm
using
8 cores? Can NUMA be either enabled or disabled when using more
than
one
physical CPU, or is it required?
NUMA is a hardware architecture. It's how you access memory on a
hardware level:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
So if I have 2 physical CPU's with 4 cores each and I enable SMP,
I'm
using
8 cores? Can NUMA be either enabled or disabled when using more
than
one
physical CPU, or is it required?
NUMA is a
I think you're right about that. Can I configure eclean to wait a
certain number of days since a package was removed before cleaning it?
Even if I only run it once per week, it could remove a package that
was updated yesterday that I find out I need tomorrow.
- Grant
-t,
Hello,
The file
/etc/conf.d/net
reports that I can seen an example format at this location:
/usr/share/doc/openrc/net.example
On my machine that example file does not exist. Did I do something
wrong or is this just a documentation oversight?
Thank you,
Chris
PS: I'm trying to find a
Chris Stankevitz wrote:
Hello,
The file
/etc/conf.d/net
reports that I can seen an example format at this location:
/usr/share/doc/openrc/net.example
On my machine that example file does not exist. Did I do something
wrong or is this just a documentation oversight?
Thank you,
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