Re: [gentoo-user] Sloppy sterm screen update over ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Dragostin Yanev
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:06:51 -0400 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:33:19AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I've recently noticed when ssh'ing into another machine that the xterm

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 07:48:59 +0200, jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote: I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the portage directory lives, but the handbook

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-03 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 02 Oct 2013 08:06:42 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-drivers again (as

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-03 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 02.10.2013 16:28, Alan McKinnon wrote: [ ... ] You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to a long-standing bug. Incidentally, do you know why the tree is in /usr? Because FreeBSD ports puts it there. Why did they do that? Because FreeBSD is not Linux; it is

[gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Does anyone of you use virt-manager to control QEMU/KVM-hosts? I do or try ... and I always get hickups when I edit VM-settings. Tried virt-manager-0.9.5, 0.10.0, 0.10.0-r1 ... same behavior, when I click Save for setting the disks properties it runs into a timeout or something. The

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:19, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/02/2013 09:06:42 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread William Kenworthy
On 03/10/13 17:18, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone of you use virt-manager to control QEMU/KVM-hosts? I do or try ... and I always get hickups when I edit VM-settings. Tried virt-manager-0.9.5, 0.10.0, 0.10.0-r1 ... same behavior, when I click Save for setting the disks

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 11:43, schrieb William Kenworthy: On 03/10/13 17:18, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone of you use virt-manager to control QEMU/KVM-hosts? I do or try ... and I always get hickups when I edit VM-settings. Tried virt-manager-0.9.5, 0.10.0, 0.10.0-r1 ... same behavior,

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Are you running stp. I was having a problem that when I did anything to libvirt it would disconnect the bridge and stp reconfigured. Turning it off fixed it (am using openvswitch) Could you specify where to turn that off? I don't know stp

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 11:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Are you running stp. I was having a problem that when I did anything to libvirt it would disconnect the bridge and stp reconfigured. Turning it off fixed it (am using openvswitch) Could

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... What is the significance of its date? I use reiserfs on my Atom box for /var, /var/cache/squid and

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-03 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10/03/2013 09:08:56 AM, Mick wrote: Curious, is there a reason you are not using the radeon driver instead of the ati proprietary drivers? -- I haven't checked recently but I remember that google-earth didn't work with the radeon drivers. Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 03.10.2013 11:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.10.2013 11:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Are you running stp. I was having a problem that when I did anything to libvirt it would disconnect the bridge and stp reconfigured.

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 13:42, schrieb Michael Hampicke: Did you restart libvirt after the change? virt-manager over ssh here works fine. Restarted, rebuilt ... which release do you use? Which USE-flags? I get closed client socket again right now.

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Kerin Millar: On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... What is the significance of its date? I use reiserfs on my Atom

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.10.2013 11:00, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: I apologize but I always thought that it's Linux that derives from ATT SysV (1983), while FreeBSD derives from ... BSD (1978). How come then Linux uses SysV init and BSD does not? ;) no, no and no.

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 03 Oct 2013 10:55:12 Kerin Millar wrote: In my view, ReiserFS is only useful for saving space through tail packing. Unfortunately, tail packing makes it slower still (an issue that was supposed to be resolved for good in Reiser4). If I remember aright, I started using ReiserFS

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... What is the significance of

[gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread James
William Hubbs williamh at gentoo.org writes: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other members of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: William Hubbs williamh at gentoo.org writes: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 03.10.2013 13:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.10.2013 13:42, schrieb Michael Hampicke: Did you restart libvirt after the change? virt-manager over ssh here works fine. Restarted, rebuilt ... which release do you use? Which USE-flags? Client side: [ebuild R]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/03/2013 08:57 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm not too sure about the kernel sources: is provided by Gandi and cannot be modified That's a GPL violation right there. The developer absolutely totally cannot do that. He/she may refuse to provide support if the kernel image is not what is

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Michael Hampicke: Server side: [ebuild R ~] app-emulation/libvirt-1.1.2-r3 USE=caps libvirtd lvm macvtap nls numa python qemu udev vepa virt-network -audit -avahi -firewalld -fuse -iscsi -lxc -nfs -openvz -parted -pcap -phyp -policykit -rbd -sasl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Dragostin Yanev
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:57:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: William Hubbs williamh at gentoo.org writes: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2013 16:09, Dragostin Yanev wrote: On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:57:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: William Hubbs williamh at gentoo.org writes: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 3, 2013 9:26 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some very

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 16:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Michael Hampicke: Server side: [ebuild R ~] app-emulation/libvirt-1.1.2-r3 USE=caps libvirtd lvm macvtap nls numa python qemu udev vepa virt-network -audit -avahi -firewalld -fuse -iscsi -lxc -nfs -openvz

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Maybe my bridge-setup is wrong? # cat /etc/systemd/system/bridge.service [Unit] Description=network bridge for KVM After=network.target [Service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network_systemd ExecStart=/sbin/brctl addbr ${bridge_name} ExecStart=/usr/bin/tunctl

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 09:39:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I chuckle at what s6's author wrote about systemd: http://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svscan-not-1.html Yes, I saw that too. I don't know anything about D-Bus, so I can't comment specifically about it, but I tend to agree quite a

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 17:15, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Maybe my bridge-setup is wrong? unlikely ... I use the same setup on at least 2 others systems w/ QEMU/KVM and systemd. compared USE-flags ... same. The main difference is the connection ... IPSEC and stuff ... I tested and edited a VM on a

[gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: I think you are misreading that sentence out of it's context. The context as I read it states that the hosting server is a VPS leased by Gandi and they don't have control over the kernel (openvz, lxc, containers, etc..). Michael cleared

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread joost
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... What is wrong with getting younger? pedantThat's an opposite, not an alternative/pedant -- Neil Bothwick For

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-03 12:10 PM, jo...@antarean.org jo...@antarean.org wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... What is wrong with getting younger? pedantThat's an

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:10:19 +0200, jo...@antarean.org wrote: I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... What is wrong with getting younger? pedantThat's an opposite, not an alternative/pedant What would the alternative be then? Think about

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Kerin Millar
On 03/10/2013 13:08, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 03.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Kerin Millar: On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... What is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 03:32:40PM +, James wrote: Well, these minimalist-- embedded distros have finely tuned kernels and that is a quintessential characteristic. If the upstream kernel is availble in source form, with some docs, then why does the (mini) distro just make provisions for

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/10/2013 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: Rsync mirrors don't grow on trees, man. People pay good

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.10.2013 18:32, schrieb Kerin Millar: On 03/10/2013 13:08, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 03.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Kerin Millar: On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2013 18:57, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/10/2013 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: [snip] You

[gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration?

2013-10-03 Thread Grant Edwards
Let's say you wanted to configure routing of TCP packets based on destination port like in this example: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html [which contains a series of 'ip' and 'iptables' commands to get packets destined for port 25 to use a specific gateway.]

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread joost
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:10:19 +0200, jo...@antarean.org wrote: I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... What is wrong with getting younger? pedantThat's an opposite, not an alternative/pedant What

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration?

2013-10-03 Thread Kerin Millar
On 03/10/2013 20:27, Grant Edwards wrote: Let's say you wanted to configure routing of TCP packets based on destination port like in this example: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html [which contains a series of 'ip' and 'iptables' commands to get packets

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Out of sheer curiousity, what common software would break under uclibc? My first gues would be stuff like Schlockwave/Trash and Nvidia

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 04.10.2013 00:32, schrieb Walter Dnes: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Out of sheer curiousity, what common software would break under uclibc? My first gues would be

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 17:32, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 03.10.2013 17:15, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Maybe my bridge-setup is wrong? unlikely ... I use the same setup on at least 2 others systems w/ QEMU/KVM and systemd. compared USE-flags ... same. The main difference is the