[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-27 Thread Martin Vaeth
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: With rsync I believe you can exclude categories: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Exclude_categories_from_emerge_sync That is uninformed. I think he is right. check the --depth option of git. You can even clone specific tags with --depth=1. Every tag

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) will have a choice of giving in or moving to Slackware or Gentoo. Many of them may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Some devs take this stuff too personally. Only the devs? LOL

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-27 Thread James
hasufell hasufell at gentoo.org writes: I still don't see a good argument why we made our system so inflexible, that obviously needed change needs such high amount of work, PR and proof. I think that most folks appreciate your efforts and insightful ideas on how to open up development,

[gentoo-user] Python Installation

2014-11-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I have python2.7 and python3.4 installed here. I'd like to emerge any packages which use python only for python3.4 unless this package can only be installed for python2.7. Currently, I have the following in /etc/portage/make.conf and with this configuration, packages which can be

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar (along the lines of the second bullet) to systemd in the future Doesn't matter

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 11/23/2014 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Also, I'll wager it likely won't be implemented in such a way as to be perceived by its user base as being shoved down their throats. Clarification -

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:05:16 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:22 +0200, Gevisz wrote: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the upper-left

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different desktop seems like

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Marc Stuermer
Am 27.11.2014 um 12:00 schrieb Tom H: I wouldn't bet to much on that. One of the most vocal anti-systemd Debian users tried either Gento or Funtoo and reported that installation and maintenance were difficult. Binary distros do make things rather easier, especially if you start to play with

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Marc Stuermer
Am 27.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Tom H: Lennart made some design choices that I wish that he hadn't made but I'm not losing any sleep over this; and I don't understand why anyone else should. Three frequently brought up issues: 1. Lennart Poettering does not exactly have a track record of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Marc Stuermer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 27.11.2014 um 12:00 schrieb Tom H: I wouldn't bet to much on that. One of the most vocal anti-systemd Debian users tried either Gento or Funtoo and reported that installation and maintenance were difficult. Binary

[gentoo-user] nginx ssl

2014-11-27 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello, has someone here running nginx with comodo ssl? I try it yet since few hours but nginx say something what i can not understand. nginx -t nginx: [emerg] SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(/var/www/de/etc/ssl/de.key) failed (SSL: error:0B080074:x509 certificate routines:X509_check_private_key:key

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: And Sabayon uses systemd, of course. Holy moly... never noticed that this happened.

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: And Sabayon uses systemd, of course. Holy moly... never noticed that this happened. Sabayon started rolling systemd in April 15, 2013[1]. By Sabayon 14.01, it was

Re: [gentoo-user] nginx ssl

2014-11-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/27/2014 01:45 PM, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: Hello, has someone here running nginx with comodo ssl? I try it yet since few hours but nginx say something what i can not understand. nginx -t nginx: [emerg] SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(/var/www/de/etc/ssl/de.key) failed (SSL:

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Paige Thompson
so we pretty much established that dropping openrc isn't in the plans for gentoo right? Probably gonna be an option like bootloaders right? On 11/27/14 21:46, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Paige Thompson
I think im just going to go to sleep. I really don't care if they drop support for it I'll just make my own ebuild / systemd emulation for whatever I need in spite of it, fork it and call it you can have it when you pry it from my cold dead hands linux. good night -Paige On 11/27/14 22:56,

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Paige Thompson erra...@yourstruly.sx wrote: I think im just going to go to sleep. I really don't care if they drop support for it I'll just make my own ebuild / systemd emulation for whatever I need in spite of it, fork it and call it you can have it when you

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:46:06PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: It sounds really cool Sabayon, I should probably try it one of these days. I'd say it's my favorite distro. Sadly, equo still doesn't know how to depclean. -- Nicolas Sebrecht

Re: [gentoo-user] Python Installation

2014-11-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, I have python2.7 and python3.4 installed here. I'd like to emerge any packages which use python only for python3.4 unless this package can only be installed for python2.7. Currently, I have the