Re: [gentoo-user] Does systemd work with mdadm?

2014-11-29 Thread Mark Pariente
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I decided I'm going to try systemd to see what all the hubbub is about. I know there are people on here that use it so I'm hoping someone's can alleviate my concerns on it with mdadm. I use an IMSM container (Intel

[gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Pandu Poluan
So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd': https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist?

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:11:20 +, Pandu Poluan wrote: So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd': https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html What do you think,

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-29 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:09:07AM +, Martin Vaeth wrote: So for non-developers, downloading with git does not necessarily make sense. That being said, please do not consider this as an argument against a change to git: For developers it has only advantages, and AFAIK, it is not planned

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 29/11/14 13:11, Pandu Poluan wrote: So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd':

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, everybody. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:09:07AM +, Martin Vaeth wrote: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Martin Vaeth: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: With rsync I believe you can exclude categories: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Exclude_categories_from_emerge_sync

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-29 Thread konsolebox
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hello, everybody. Good day. instead of conceptualising a branch (as you would do with Mercurial, Bazaar, Subversion, or even CVS), you need to think about commits reachable from a certain head (excluding commits reachable

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, konsolebox. On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 11:18:49PM +0800, konsolebox wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hello, everybody. Good day. instead of conceptualising a branch (as you would do with Mercurial, Bazaar, Subversion, or even CVS), you need

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist? Since Eudev has always been opensource under the GPLv2, like udev too, there's no need to /offer/ it. If they choose to use it, they can use it, no offer/questions

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-29 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 11/29/2014 09:28 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Speaking as a developer in a project which has just converted to git, I can assure you that git has tremendous disadvantages, even compared with cvs. It depends; they do different things. Depending on what I'm working on, I use either subversion

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-29 Thread hasufell
Alan Mackenzie: So that instead of conceptualising a branch (as you would do with Mercurial, Bazaar, Subversion, or even CVS), you need to think about commits reachable from a certain head (excluding commits reachable from some other head). [snipping everything that is not technical] How

[gentoo-user] TPM feature - do I need it?

2014-11-29 Thread Mick
I'm looking to buy a new PC and while looking at FM2+ MoBos I saw ASUS offers one with a TPM feature. It also sells it as a separate component it seems: http://us.estore.asus.com/index.php?l=product_detailp=5793 I recall reading in this list about it, but I am not sure if it offers any

Re: [gentoo-user] TPM feature - do I need it?

2014-11-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking to buy a new PC and while looking at FM2+ MoBos I saw ASUS offers one with a TPM feature. It also sells it as a separate component it seems: I can't get that page to load, but I can't imagine that you could find

[gentoo-user] OT somehow: experiences around linode

2014-11-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
fellow gentoo-users: Who has rent a virtual server at linode.com and what is your opinion? I find stuff like: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1101752 https://plus.google.com/+DiegoElioPettenò/posts/FbuwyVg79Eh Maybe they have learned since then? Any current opinions? I spent

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Marc Stuermer
Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist? After studying their home pages so far I came to the conclusion, that I cannot take Devuan serious. It still feels more like a prank to me than a serious thing. First

Re: [gentoo-user] TPM feature - do I need it?

2014-11-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Nov 2014 20:23:51 Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking to buy a new PC and while looking at FM2+ MoBos I saw ASUS offers one with a TPM feature. It also sells it as a separate component it seems: I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Marc Stuermer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: That's why I am skeptical about all of this created buzz around it and seriously doubt if they are going to be able to deliver. Systemd = buzz these days. There was a slashdot post about some kernel bug and it seemed

Re: [gentoo-user] OT somehow: experiences around linode

2014-11-29 Thread Al
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Who has rent a virtual server at linode.com and what is your opinion? I have two servers with Linode, one running Gentoo, and Debian on the other. My experience has been great so far. My only contact with support was an ipv6 issue that I ran into a few months ago,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT somehow: experiences around linode

2014-11-29 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 30.11.2014 um 00:57 schrieb Al: My experience has been great so far. My only contact with support was an ipv6 issue that I ran into a few months ago, and they quickly replied with a reference to a Gentoo bug which included the fix. So here's one vote for Linode. good to hear that

Re: [gentoo-user] flag details

2014-11-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 05:09:36PM +, James wrote: So, I use euse to read aobut flags. Sometimes the same flag has slightly, but significantly different meanings depending on the packages it is use on. A tool with perhaps more detail or that parse the ebuild/sources for even greater

Re: [gentoo-user] Does systemd work with mdadm?

2014-11-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 11/29/2014 12:19 AM, Mark Pariente wrote: mdadm works perfectly fine with systemd. I am running a 4-disk RAID-10 configuration and it gets assembled properly by systemd. I have the ARRAY ... definition in /etc/mdadm.conf and the /dev/mdXXX mount point in /etc/fstab and AFAICT that's all

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 30/11/14 07:30, Marc Stuermer wrote: Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist? After studying their home pages so far I came to the conclusion, that I cannot take Devuan serious. It still feels more

Re: [gentoo-user] TPM feature - do I need it?

2014-11-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rich, it seems not all modern MoBos have it. This doesn't: Interesting, I had really thought they were ubiquitous. If I enable this TPM thing, do I automatically open ports at pre/post-boot time giving access to

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I am already really annoyed that by default systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based systems. You're getting worked up about text files and filenames. I suppose you'll be really upset that

Re: [gentoo-user] Does systemd work with mdadm?

2014-11-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: So far, it's better than openrc in that there's a bug shutting down an imsm raid that's still not been addressed. It causes the array to do a rebuild next time it starts up and from my testing systemd doesn't have this

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:32:18 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I am already really annoyed that by default systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based systems. You're getting worked up about text

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-11-29 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:32:08 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist? Since Eudev has always been opensource under the GPLv2, like udev too, there's no need to /offer/ it.