Re: [gentoo-user] Installing a thingy that does not have an ebuild

2015-01-07 Thread thegeezer
On 07/01/15 06:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to install an engineering package by the name of Salome-meca. There is no ebuild for this. They claim to have a universal installer but I've spent too much time trying to get this thingy to work and can now confidently say it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon driver - blank console [SOLVED]

2015-01-07 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 01/07/2015 08:07:26 AM, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 06 Jan 2015 10:09:25 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 01/05/2015 02:49:04 PM, Florian Gamböck wrote: Am 05.01.2015 um 14:42 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Which (framebuffer?) kernel parameters have to set? Try compiling CONFIG_DRM_RADEON as

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 10:00:17 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: # # RAM disk for emerges # tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs uid=portage,gid=portage,mode=0775,size=8192M,noatime0 0 The above is all ONE line. This has worked fine for me. I have a machine with 16GB so I decided to go half/half on

[gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi All, I have been strugling with pulseaudio for a while now. The problem is that it selects as the only default output interface an HDMI (digital) port in the video card. How do I set it up to select the usual analog output as default (or even better, select both)? Thanks, Francisco

Re: [gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Jacques Montier
Hello, I had the same problem some months ago. Adding the line set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo analog-output-lineout to /etc/pulse/default.pa solved the problem. Hope that will help, *--* *Jacques* 2015-01-07 11:41 GMT+01:00 Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com: Hi All,

Re: [gentoo-user] block in emerge

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 16:12, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: I have a block, I'm not looking for a solution yet, just a correct interpretation of the error messages: [blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.16.2-r1 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.16.2-r1 is blocking app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.3.1-r1) * Error:

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2015-01-07 12:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* I managed to compile basic stuff already ... portage, gcc etc Now I get errors at emerging packages which is bad.

[gentoo-user] block in emerge

2015-01-07 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
I have a block, I'm not looking for a solution yet, just a correct interpretation of the error messages: [blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.16.2-r1 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.16.2-r1 is blocking app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.3.1-r1) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.01.2015 um 13:13 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:01:34 +0100, Tomas Mozes wrote: Try to fetch some older portage snapshots http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/snapshots/ and update in steps, not as a 4 year giant leap. Try to fetch

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Thanks for any pointers! I *think* I solved it by fixing the binutils-setting ... just testing ... seems solved for now! Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Alan McKinnon: The tricky one is going to be that persistent interface names from udev 18 months or so back. When you get to that, you'll probably want to re-read the huge threads from that time, as you only get one chance to get it right. One addition: at the

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: openrc should be seamless. I forget the exact timelines, but IIRC you will also hit baselayout-2 migration. That one was very smooth and well documented so you shouldn't have much trouble. If it is already running

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 14:28 schrieb Rich Freeman: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: openrc should be seamless. I forget the exact timelines, but IIRC you will also hit baselayout-2 migration. That one was very smooth and well documented so you shouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 7 January 2015 13:16:03 GMT+00:00, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Personally, I wouldn't bother, there is not that much of a gain when using tmpfs, so if you want to keep all the working files after

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 15:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 07.01.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Alan McKinnon: The tricky one is going to be that persistent interface names from udev 18 months or so back. When you get to that, you'll probably want to re-read the huge threads from that time, as you only get

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 21:06, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2015-01-07 13:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 08.01.2015 um 00:02 schrieb Alan McKinnon: In my opinion, ansible almost always beats puppet. Puppet is a) complex b) built to be able to deal with vast enterprise setups and c) has a definition language I never could wrap my brains around. It always felt to me like puppet was never a

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 22:30, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 07.01.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Tomas Mozes: Strange, I only have successful stories with upgrading old gentoo machines. If you have a machine which you update regularly then you know all the issues during the time and so upgrading per partes

[gentoo-user] Re: meld 3.12 can't save settings

2015-01-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-01-07, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Meld 3.12.2 went stable a couple weeks ago and got upgraded from 1.8.5. After the 1.8-3.12 upgrade, the application preferences no longer worked. They neither affect the application nor do they get saved. If I block meld 3.x and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:25:52 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Not as a general FS, but as a specific choice for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR it may be worth testing. XFS was designed for an environment that used temporary files that

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Tomas Mozes: Strange, I only have successful stories with upgrading old gentoo machines. If you have a machine which you update regularly then you know all the issues during the time and so upgrading per partes leads to no surprises but the same challenges

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.01.2015 um 21:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: That's not what I meant, but I see your point about using --reflink if making copies. My thought was to forget the whole tmpfs and copying think, set KEEP WORK in FEATURES and use XFS for

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 17:08 schrieb Rich Freeman: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It's worth repeating: the customer caused this, he must now feel the pain and not you. So, if he made an informed choice and that is what he chose, then that is how it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:25:52 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Not as a general FS, but as a specific choice for $PORTAGE_TMPDIR it may be worth testing. XFS was designed for an environment that used temporary files that didn't need to be committed to disk, so its caching doesn't write to disk

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 13:47 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you are already experiencing the full

[gentoo-user] meld 3.12 can't save settings

2015-01-07 Thread Grant Edwards
Meld 3.12.2 went stable a couple weeks ago and got upgraded from 1.8.5. After the 1.8-3.12 upgrade, the application preferences no longer worked. They neither affect the application nor do they get saved. If I block meld 3.x and go back to 1.8.5, everything works fine again. On the meld mailing

[gentoo-user] USB mouse query

2015-01-07 Thread Philip Webb
Checking out my stand-by machine for another reason, I discovered that it won't talk properly to my monitor, so I tested my 2003 machine, which I haven't used for a long time. It woke up ok, but it doesn't recognise either of my mice, even with a adapter, so I want to get it to use them via USB.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 21:36:42 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 07.01.2015 um 21:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: That's not what I meant, but I see your point about using --reflink if making copies. My thought was to forget the whole tmpfs and copying think, set KEEP WORK in FEATURES and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:22:46 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: That's not what I meant, but I see your point about using --reflink if making copies. My thought was to forget the whole tmpfs and copying think, set KEEP WORK in FEATURES and use XFS for PORTAGE_TMPDIR. That way most of the work is

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It's worth repeating: the customer caused this, he must now feel the pain and not you. So, if he made an informed choice and that is what he chose, then that is how it has to be. However, if I were in the position

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 14:19:27 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: at the reboot time a fellow IT-guy will be there in front of the console so if the NIC doesn't come up correctly I will be able to instruct him to get the box up and reachable for me. I also use to disable persistent names for

[gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: On 7 January 2015 13:16:03 GMT+00:00, Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk wrote: Personally, I wouldn't bother, there is not that much of a gain when using tmpfs, so if you

[gentoo-user] Re: another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread James
Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Thanks for any pointers! best, Stefan If the server is 5 years old (or more) surely there is an additional system

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2015-01-07 13:47, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you are already experiencing the full reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 17:38 schrieb James: Stefan G. Weichinger lists at xunil.at writes: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Thanks for any pointers! best, Stefan If the server is 5 years old (or

Re: [gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Jacques Montier jmont...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I had the same problem some months ago. Adding the line set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo analog-output-lineout to /etc/pulse/default.pa solved the problem. Please don't top-post. That

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:12:28 + (UTC), James wrote: That's why I thought XFS may help. Reports of the speed gain from tmpfs are quite mixed, but I do use it myself. I'm moving to btrfs and eventually ceph, so xfs

[gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* I managed to compile basic stuff already ... portage, gcc etc Now I get errors at emerging packages which is bad. Still no openrc installed and the udev-upgrade also

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:01:34 +0100, Tomas Mozes wrote: Try to fetch some older portage snapshots http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/snapshots/ and update in steps, not as a 4 year giant leap. Try to fetch snapshot 2011, then upgrade, then 2012, upgrade... It takes more time, but it should work.

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 14:56, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 07.01.2015 um 13:47 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your

Re: [gentoo-user] tip ou pulseaudio

2015-01-07 Thread Francisco Ares
2015-01-07 8:51 GMT-02:00 Jacques Montier jmont...@gmail.com: Hello, I had the same problem some months ago. Adding the line set-sink-port alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo analog-output-lineout to /etc/pulse/default.pa solved the problem. Hope that will help, *--*

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you are already experiencing the full reason why). Backup data and configs, reinstall

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Jan 7, 2015, at 14:47, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/01/2015 13:52, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am in the process of upgrading an old (~2010) gentoo server. The customer never wanted updates ... and now he wants ... *sigh* Don't waste your time (you are

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Personally, I wouldn't bother, there is not that much of a gain when using tmpfs, so if you want to keep all the working files after compilation, the extra overhead and complexity of copying to hard disk would make it not

Re: [gentoo-user] another old box to update

2015-01-07 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 07.01.2015 um 14:44 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 07/01/2015 15:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Seems as if the biggest problems are solved right now? if you ran emerge -avuND world and portage goes ahead and does it without blockers, then I'd agree - the major problems are solved. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs

2015-01-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:12:28 + (UTC), James wrote: That's why I thought XFS may help. Reports of the speed gain from tmpfs are quite mixed, but I do use it myself. I'm moving to btrfs and eventually ceph, so xfs is not on my roadmap Not as a general FS, but as a specific