Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:28:27 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > Download the latest portage snapshot on B > > Unpack it on A > > Run emerge -ufp @world on A and capture the output > > Use that on B to download the files > > Copy them back to A and emerge -u @world > > > > That avoids the use of a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:05:35 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:38:13 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > > >> I suppose the database I'm looking for is /var/db/pkg, right? > > > > /var/lib/portage/world - this needs to be in sync in the two > > environments. > > Ok

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network

2016-01-18 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:05:35 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > If you don't mind a two step approach, you could > > Download the latest portage snapshot on B > Unpack it on A > Run emerge -ufp @world on A and capture the output > Use that on B to download the files > Copy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:38:13 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > > I have gentoo system A (~x86) on a network that does not allow portage > > access to internet due to some authentication issue. System B (~amd64) > > is on another network with no such restrictions. > > > > To bypass the restrictions

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network

2016-01-18 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:38:13 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > >> I suppose the database I'm looking for is /var/db/pkg, right? > > /var/lib/portage/world - this needs to be in sync in the two environments. > Ok but that's a 'static' snapshot of the packages; I also need to

[gentoo-user] Python3.4 to python3.5 in ebuilds

2016-01-18 Thread Stanislav Ch. Nikolov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 It seems like 3.4 and 3.5 are 100% compatible, and most ebuilds involving python in some way tolerate them both (any-of ( python_targets_python3_3 python_targets_python3_4 python_targets_python3_5)). Yet there are some that are still unhappy with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Thanks Nikos, thanks Neil. With your help I've managed to get rid of all 32bits libraries. I still unsure what to do for the "second step". If possible, I'd like to install any packages with abs_x86_32 which are required for dev-util/android-sdk-update-manager and app-text/acroread with a

[gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86="32' Hm. OK thanks for verification on the number. emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86="32'| wc -l 279 Same as:: EIX_LIMIT=0 eix -I --only-names | equery hasuse abi_x86_32 | wc -l 279 Anyway:: Why so many? The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/01/2016 15:31, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Thanks Nikos, thanks Neil. > > With your help I've managed to get rid of all 32bits libraries. > > I still unsure what to do for the "second step". > > If possible, I'd like to install any packages with abs_x86_32 which are > required for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:12:23 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> equery hasuse checks which packages respect the given USE flag, it pays >> no attention to whether it is actually set. Try >> >> emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86=32' > Sorry, that should be > > emerge -evp world

[gentoo-user] Handbook instructions for UEFI

2016-01-18 Thread Adam Carter
First attempt at a GPT/UEFI install. Instructions in the Handbook say that for a UEFI system, prepare the disk as; Partition Filesystem Size Description /dev/sda1 (bootloader) 2M BIOS boot partition /dev/sda2 ext2 (or vfat) 128M Boot partition to end up with;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 06:04:27 + (UTC), James wrote: > OK, so I run:: > EIX_LIMIT=0 eix -I --only-names | equery hasuse abi_x86_32 | wc -l > > and get '279'. Maybe I missed someting on how to determine the pacakges > installed that have 'abi_x86_32' set ? equery hasuse checks which

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook instructions for UEFI

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:13:25 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > First attempt at a GPT/UEFI install. Instructions in the Handbook say > that for a UEFI system, prepare the disk as; > Partition Filesystem Size Description > /dev/sda1 (bootloader) 2M BIOS boot partition > /dev/sda2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:12:23 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > equery hasuse checks which packages respect the given USE flag, it pays > no attention to whether it is actually set. Try > > emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86=32' Sorry, that should be emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86="32' -- Neil

[gentoo-user] *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread karl
# emerge -auDN @system ... [ebuild N ] virtual/dev-manager-0 How can I get rid of dev-manager-0 from @system ? Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57

Re: [gentoo-user] *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread Francisco Ares
2016-01-18 15:15 GMT-02:00 : > # emerge -auDN @system > ... > [ebuild N ] virtual/dev-manager-0 > > How can I get rid of dev-manager-0 from @system ? > > Regards, > /Karl Hammar > > --- > Aspö Data > Lilla

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Grant wrote: > > I am 100% web-based. I don't want to administrate machines outside of > my LAN so I can imagine a Chromebook would end up vulnerable > eventually. The whole point of chromebooks is that they auto-update in a timely

[gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network [SOLVED]

2016-01-18 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Raffaele Belardi wrote: >> I have gentoo system A (~x86) on a network that does not allow portage >> access to internet due to some authentication issue. System B (~amd64) >> is on another network with no such restrictions. >> >> To bypass the restrictions I made a copy

Re: [gentoo-user] *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread karl
Francisco Ares: > 2016-01-18 15:15 GMT-02:00 : > > > # emerge -auDN @system > > ... > > [ebuild N ] virtual/dev-manager-0 > > > > How can I get rid of dev-manager-0 from @system ? ... > Try updating to a new kernel. > > I'm saying this because of the output of equery d

[gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network

2016-01-18 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
Raffaele Belardi wrote: > I have gentoo system A (~x86) on a network that does not allow portage > access to internet due to some authentication issue. System B (~amd64) > is on another network with no such restrictions. > > To bypass the restrictions I made a copy of A on a removable media, >

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:44 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: >> >> You would have a full VM for each user? > > Yes > >> That would be a huge waste of resources, > > Diskspace and CPU can easily be overcommitted. >... > The biggest

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, January 18, 2016 06:07:33 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:44 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: > >> You would have a full VM for each user? > > > > Yes > > > >> That would be a huge waste of

[gentoo-user] OT:: GPU resource utilization

2016-01-18 Thread James
Hello:: Background:: Hadoop and Openstack are supported on Gentoo, probably the most noticeable of cluster code systems, and quite popular with most cloud vendors. Future:: Apache-Mesos is rapidly gaining ground and may surpass both Hadoop and Openstack in usability on Gentoo, during 2016.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Grant
>> Suppose you use a VPN connection. How do does the client (employee) >> secure their own network and the machine they're using to work remotely >> then? > > Poorly, most likely. Your data is probably not nearly as important to > them as their data is, and most people don't take great care of

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown through systemctl as a normal user

2016-01-18 Thread wabenbau
lukash wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm reading on the internet that systemctl poweroff should work for > normal user if he is the only one logged in, he is logged in locally > and his session is active. I seem to be meeting these conditions: > > # loginctl >    SESSIONUID

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread lee
"J. Roeleveld" writes: > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: >> "J. Roeleveld" writes: >> > On 17 January 2016 18:35:20 CET, Mick wrote: >> > >> > [...] >> > >> >>I use the icaclient provided by Citrix to

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread lee
writes: > lee wrote: > >> Rich Freeman writes: >> >> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:38 AM, lee wrote: >> >> Suppose you use a VPN connection. How do does the client >> >> (employee) secure their own network and the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread lee
Rich Freeman writes: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee wrote: >> Rich Freeman writes: >> >>> However, while an RDP-like solution protects you from some types of >>> attacks, it still leaves you open to many client-side problems like

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:57 PM, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee wrote: >>> Rich Freeman writes: >>> However, while an RDP-like solution protects you from some types of

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > All Joost is saying is that most resources can be overcommitted, since > all the users will not be using all their resources at the same time. > Don't want to sound like a broken record, but this is precisely

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:33 PM, wrote: > > Sharing files can be done via SCP/SFTP. If a VPN connection is used, > then even NFS or FTP are possibilities. I have 100 computers. I want a user on those 100 computers to be able to share a file on their computer with just me.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread wabenbau
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:33 PM, wrote: > > > > Sharing files can be done via SCP/SFTP. If a VPN connection is used, > > then even NFS or FTP are possibilities. > > I have 100 computers. I want a user on those 100 computers to be

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread wabenbau
Rich Freeman wrote: > I do sometimes wonder how the #1 server OS in the world somehow lacks > decent facilities for graphical remote login, and for sharing files > across the network. (For the latter NFS is a real pain to set up in a > remotely secure fashion - part of the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 01:46:45AM +0100, lee wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: > >> "J. Roeleveld" writes: > >> > On 17 January 2016 18:35:20 CET, Mick wrote: > >> > > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread wabenbau
lee wrote: > writes: > > > lee wrote: > > > >> Rich Freeman writes: > >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:38 AM, lee wrote: > >> >> Suppose you use a VPN connection. How do does the client > >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get rid of 32bits libraries

2016-01-18 Thread Dale
James wrote: > Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > >> emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86="32' > Hm. OK thanks for verification on the number. > > emerge -evp world | grep 'ABI_X86="32'| wc -l > 279 > > Same as:: > EIX_LIMIT=0 eix -I --only-names | equery hasuse abi_x86_32 | wc -l > 279

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, January 18, 2016 09:45:28 PM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 01:46:45AM +0100, lee wrote: > > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: > > >> "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > >> > On 17 January

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 01:46:45 AM lee wrote: > "J. Roeleveld" writes: > > On Monday, January 18, 2016 02:02:27 AM lee wrote: > >> "J. Roeleveld" writes: > >> > On 17 January 2016 18:35:20 CET, Mick > >> > wrote: > >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, January 18, 2016 08:35:20 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 7:57 PM, lee wrote: > > Rich Freeman writes: > >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee wrote: > >>> Rich Freeman writes: > However,

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 01:57:38 AM lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, lee wrote: > >> Rich Freeman writes: > >>> However, while an RDP-like solution protects you from some types of > >>> attacks, it

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-01-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 02:15:17 AM lee wrote: > writes: > > lee wrote: > >> Rich Freeman writes: > >> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 6:38 AM, lee wrote: > >> >> Suppose you use a VPN connection. How do does the client

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown through systemctl as a normal user

2016-01-18 Thread Willie Matthews
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:31:39 +0100 lukash wrote: > On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 20:00 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > > lukash wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm reading on the internet that systemctl poweroff should work > > > for normal user if he is

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown through systemctl as a normal user

2016-01-18 Thread lukash
On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 20:00 +0100, waben...@gmail.com wrote: > lukash wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm reading on the internet that systemctl poweroff should work for > > normal user if he is the only one logged in, he is logged in > > locally > > and his session is active. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/01/2016 23:05, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > boxc...@gmx.net: >> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:48:58 +0100 (CET) >> k...@aspodata.se wrote: > ... >>> What info is there on @system ? >>> I can change what's in @world, it seems to be the content of >>> /var/lib/portage/world. Is there a similar file for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread karl
Alan McKinnon: > On 18/01/2016 23:05, k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... > > I found a workaround in the sys-fs/static-dev package. > Let's be clear: static-dev is NOT a workaround. It is a full proper > solution for the case when a dynamic device node solution is not desired. Ok, fine with me (the

Re: [gentoo-user] Python3.4 to python3.5 in ebuilds

2016-01-18 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
Hi, On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 04:07:03PM +0200, Stanislav Ch. Nikolov wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > It seems like 3.4 and 3.5 are 100% compatible, and most ebuilds > involving python in some way tolerate them both: > (any-of ( python_targets_python3_3

Re: [gentoo-user] *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread karl
Karl Hammar: > # emerge -auDN @system > ... > [ebuild N ] virtual/dev-manager-0 > > How can I get rid of dev-manager-0 from @system ? Ok, found workaround with sys-fs/static-dev. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update gentoo without network [SOLVED]

2016-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:39:50 +0100, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: > Just tested, it works: > > 1. cp -a /var/db/pkg from system A to removable media > 2. chroot ; emerge-webrsync ; emerge --fetchonly -uDvN world > 3. cp -a /usr/portage from removable media to system A > 4. next week, goto 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread karl
boxc...@gmx.net: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:48:58 +0100 (CET) > k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... > > What info is there on @system ? > > I can change what's in @world, it seems to be the content of > > /var/lib/portage/world. Is there a similar file for @system ? > > It's in

[gentoo-user] Re: *dev-less gentoo

2016-01-18 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:48:58 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Francisco Ares: > > 2016-01-18 15:15 GMT-02:00 : > > > > > # emerge -auDN @system > > > ... > > > [ebuild N ] virtual/dev-manager-0 > > > > > > How can I get rid of dev-manager-0 from @system ? > ... >