Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 02 Aug 2016 00:33:57 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 01:11:24AM +0200, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote > > > Does it make sense to compile your own versions of these packages > > and then binary merge, when portage already contains binary ebuilds > > for these packages?

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 01:03 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:49 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: Sure this part is only related to transaction processing as there was much more to the "five 9s" legacy, but imho, that is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread waltdnes
On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 01:11:24AM +0200, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote > Does it make sense to compile your own versions of these packages > and then binary merge, when portage already contains binary ebuilds > for these packages? (firefox-bin/libreoffice-bin/google-chrome) I've got an underpowered

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 11:49 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: On 08/01/2016 02:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:31 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, August 01, 2016 11:01:28 AM Rich Freeman wrote: >> Neither my employer nor the big software provider >> in question is likely to attract top-notch DB talent (indeed, mine has >> steadily gotten rid of anybody who

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > So the original article very much seems to have been written with a skewed > bias and wrong focus. That's bias as in "shifted to one side as used in > math" not bias as in "opinionated asshat beating some special

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2016 17:01, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 10:21:20PM +0100, Mick wrote: > > I think libreoffice, chromium and firefox will be compiled in a chroot from > now > on and then emerged as binaries. This is the difference for libreoffice: > > Sat Aug 29 06:09:09 2015 >>> app-office/libreoffice-4.4.4.3 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 18:57:53 Mick wrote: > On Monday 01 Aug 2016 17:32:58 Mick wrote: > > On Monday 01 Aug 2016 12:19:41 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > > What chroot() actually does is fairly simple, it modifies pathname > > > > lookups for a process and its children so that any reference to

[gentoo-user] SSD over the SAS controller

2016-08-01 Thread Raphael MD
Hi, I've a question about using SATA's SSD over the SAS controller on the workstation motherboards. I didn't find any benchmark comparing the CPU/Memory load, for example. I suppose, that installing a SSD over the SAS controller, my CPU/Memory load will be lower and I will get better

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:49 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: > >> Sure this part is only related to >> transaction processing as there was much more to the "five 9s" legacy, >> but imho, that is the heart of what was the precursor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 17:32:58 Mick wrote: > On Monday 01 Aug 2016 12:19:41 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > What chroot() actually does is fairly simple, it modifies pathname > > > lookups for a process and its children so that any reference to a path > > > starting '/' will effectively have

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 01, 2016 11:01:28 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: > On 08/01/2016 02:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon > > > > wrote: > >>> On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 12:19:41 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 04:46:24PM +0100, Mick wrote > > > On Monday 01 Aug 2016 11:23:03 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > I recommend going with one of 3 "cheats"... > > > > > > 1) A 32-bit chroot in a 64-bit machine > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compile attempt

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 16:49:15 Mick wrote: > Thank you Peter, I seem to have posted a few seconds before I received your > message. From what you're showing above I seem to have not performed a > correct mount of the chroot fs. I better rinse and repeat ... Hmm ... I followed the handbook this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread waltdnes
On Mon, Aug 01, 2016 at 04:46:24PM +0100, Mick wrote > On Monday 01 Aug 2016 11:23:03 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > I recommend going with one of 3 "cheats"... > > > > 1) A 32-bit chroot in a 64-bit machine > > > > 2) A QEMU (or VirtualBox) 32-bit guest on a 64-bit host > > > > 3) If

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compile attempt

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 16:31:18 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 01 Aug 2016 14:51:02 Mick wrote: > > Given Andrew's steer I had another look and found this guide: > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:AMD64/32-bit_Chroot_Guide > > > > Is this approach still valid, or have things moved on

Re: [gentoo-user] How to correctly handle multiple Qt versions (qt4 X qt5)

2016-08-01 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/01/2016 08:17 AM, Francisco Ares wrote: > Hi all. > > In thys Gento system, there are packages that still need Qt-4, while newest > KDE, for instance, needs Qt-5. > > Even inserting entries in "/etc/portage/package.use" for the packages that

[gentoo-user] Re: [was cross-compile attempt] 32bit chroot

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 11:23:03 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > I recommend going with one of 3 "cheats"... > > 1) A 32-bit chroot in a 64-bit machine > > 2) A QEMU (or VirtualBox) 32-bit guest on a 64-bit host > > 3) If you have a spare 64-bit machine, install 32-bit Gentoo on it > > I use

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compile attempt

2016-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 14:51:02 Mick wrote: > Given Andrew's steer I had another look and found this guide: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:AMD64/32-bit_Chroot_Guide > > Is this approach still valid, or have things moved on since this article > was authored (2012) and different

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compile attempt

2016-08-01 Thread waltdnes
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 07:40:37PM +0100, Mick wrote > Hi All, > > I am dipping my toe into cross-compile territory, in order to build i686 > binaries for a 32bit box, which is too old to do its own emerges. I am using > an amd64 box which is significantly faster to do all the heavy lifting

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop oddity

2016-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 01 Aug 2016 10:03:53 John Blinka wrote: > Glad to see that someone else has experienced the same thing, and I'm not > going crazy (although some might argue this is hardly proof...) No, but it'll do as a bit of evidence pro tem. :) -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database design and > usage. I've read it. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop oddity

2016-08-01 Thread John Blinka
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > How is it possible for genlop's reported ETA to increase while its time > spent so far also increases? Could the concurrent gnutls merging have > affected it? Surely not. I've noticed the same oddity recently

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compile attempt

2016-08-01 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 Jul 2016 23:31:29 you wrote: > On Sunday 31 Jul 2016 23:18:00 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:40:37 +0100 Mick wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I am dipping my toe into cross-compile territory, in order to build i686 > > > binaries for a 32bit box, which is too old

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 02:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I

[gentoo-user] How to correctly handle multiple Qt versions (qt4 X qt5)

2016-08-01 Thread Francisco Ares
Hi all. In thys Gento system, there are packages that still need Qt-4, while newest KDE, for instance, needs Qt-5. Even inserting entries in "/etc/portage/package.use" for the packages that need qt4, the emerge still fails, arguing that the package needs Qt-4. On this system, "qtchooser" has

Re: [gentoo-user] Partition of 3TB USB drive not detected

2016-08-01 Thread james
On 08/01/2016 01:45 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Sunday, July 31, 2016 03:37:55 PM Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi, for my backups I use a 3TB USB drive (one big ext4 partition) without any problems. Just plug in the cable, mount it and perform the backup. The partition (sdi1) is detected an mountable

Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop oddity

2016-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 31 Jul 2016 18:52:23 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: --->8 > Just out of curiosity what are the differences between the original genlop > calculation and yours, and how long did it actually take? and what is the > output of 'genlop -t '. $ genlop -t gcc -f /mnt/rescue/var/log/emerge.log

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, July 30, 2016 06:38:01 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: > >> Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. > >> I am > >> running both DBs on

Re: [gentoo-user] Partition of 3TB USB drive not detected

2016-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, July 31, 2016 03:37:55 PM Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi, > > for my backups I use a 3TB USB drive (one big ext4 partition) without any > problems. Just plug in the cable, mount it and perform the backup. The > partition (sdi1) is detected an mountable without any problems: > >