[SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Blacklist one of the pool's rsync server?

2018-02-27 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 01:25:27AM +, Grant Edwards wrote > Is there any way for me to "blacklist" a pool rsync server so that > emerge --sync won't try to use it? How about an iptables rule to block the bad address? BTW... [d531][waltdnes][~] nslookup rsync.us.gentoo.org Server:

[gentoo-user] Re: Blacklist one of the pool's rsync server?

2018-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-02-28, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> Is there any way for me to "blacklist" a pool rsync server so that >> emerge --sync won't try to use it? >> >> I'm using the sync-url rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage, but >> one of the pool's servers is barely

Re: [gentoo-user] Blacklist one of the pool's rsync server?

2018-02-27 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > Is there any way for me to "blacklist" a pool rsync server so that > emerge --sync won't try to use it? > > I'm using the sync-url rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage, but > one of the pool's servers is barely usable for me. I don't know if > it's a server problem or

[gentoo-user] Blacklist one of the pool's rsync server?

2018-02-27 Thread Grant Edwards
Is there any way for me to "blacklist" a pool rsync server so that emerge --sync won't try to use it? I'm using the sync-url rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage, but one of the pool's servers is barely usable for me. I don't know if it's a server problem or if traffic between my and that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/27/2018 03:30 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > --with-bdeps=n. Once a package is installed, it doesn't matter what > happens to its build deps. FWIW, the rationale for enabling bdeps by default for "upgrade" actions is that the old build deps are already installed; so if there's a major

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 18:08:48 +0100, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > A combination of --changed-deps, --with-bdeps=y and --deep is bound to > > result in plenty of unnecessary re-emerging. > > Hi Neil, > > .andwhat do you suggest instead? --with-bdeps=n. Once a package is installed, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-02-27 12:45, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I use --with-bdeps=n because I really don't care that much about >> build-time deps, other than stuff that is going to get updated anyway >> like gcc. These packages don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Dale
Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-02-27 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> A combination of --changed-deps, --with-bdeps=y and --deep is bound to >> result in plenty of unnecessary re-emerging. > So, what _is_ the recommended set of emerge flags for regular daily or > weekly updates (assuming no binary

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-27 12:45, Rich Freeman wrote: > I use --with-bdeps=n because I really don't care that much about > build-time deps, other than stuff that is going to get updated anyway > like gcc. These packages don't even need to be installed for software > to work correctly, and if a dev does miss

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > > If I emerge a new utility program (such as lame), I will change my > global flags to tell other programs to use it. That is what > --changed-deps is for - so the programs that were originally compiled > without

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/02/18 17:43, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > The --changed-deps flag, on the other hand, is a crutch for when > developers make in-place edits to ebuilds and don't make the necessary > revision bump. I believe the --changed-deps flag is ALSO for USERS who want to change settings on their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 02/27/2018 12:05 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> When I read this, I realize I don't understand the difference between >> these two options. Or to be more accurate, I know that --deep means >> looking at dependencies

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-02-27 16:44, Paul Colquhoun wrote: > >> > > Yes, I use --deep. I've run into cases many times in the past >> > > where portage was skipping updates unless I used --deep. >> > >> > You might want to avoid

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/27/2018 12:05 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > When I read this, I realize I don't understand the difference between > these two options. Or to be more accurate, I know that --deep means > looking at dependencies beyond the first level; but isn't that just a > superset of those found by

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-27 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > A combination of --changed-deps, --with-bdeps=y and --deep is bound to > result in plenty of unnecessary re-emerging. So, what _is_ the recommended set of emerge flags for regular daily or weekly updates (assuming no binary packages)? -- Please don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread tuxic
On 02/27 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:15:24 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > >> luky you...I got 462 packages to recompile... > > > > > > Ooh! Bloat warning! > > > > It got even worse just today. > > > > Arch Linux is starting to look really, really tasty right

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-27 16:44, Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > Yes, I use --deep. I've run into cases many times in the past > > > where portage was skipping updates unless I used --deep. > > > > You might want to avoid combining both --deep and --changed-deps. When I read this, I realize I don't understand

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world and package.mask ?

2018-02-27 Thread Steven Dürl
Am 27.02.2018 um 14:29 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > I don't understand portage (any more). > > I want to keep dev-qt/qt-meta-4.8.6 (QT4) which requires > > media-libs/phonon[qt4] > > I do have media-libs/phonon-4.9.1-r1[qt4,qt5] installed here. > And in /etc/portage/package.mask I have >>

[gentoo-user] emerge @world and package.mask ?

2018-02-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I don't understand portage (any more). I want to keep dev-qt/qt-meta-4.8.6 (QT4) which requires media-libs/phonon[qt4] I do have media-libs/phonon-4.9.1-r1[qt4,qt5] installed here. And in /etc/portage/package.mask I have media-libs/phonon-4.9.9 media-libs/phonon-vlc-4.9.9 But still,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:15:24 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> luky you...I got 462 packages to recompile... > > > > Ooh! Bloat warning! > > It got even worse just today. > > Arch Linux is starting to look really, really tasty right about now... A combination of --changed-deps,

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 27/02/18 01:55, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 26 February 2018 18:42:33 GMT tu...@posteo.de wrote: Hi Peter, luky you...I got 462 packages to recompile... Ooh! Bloat warning! It got even worse just today. Arch Linux is starting to look really, really tasty right about now...