Aw: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU eventually hangs my system

2018-08-22 Thread cts . private
One thing I forgot to mention: it's only happened so far, when I've been using my HDMI monitor. It never occurred in the 3/4 year before that, before I compiled with the AMDGPU facility. Thank you so much for your mention of the magik sysreq key and reisub. I didn't know about those. Now I

Re: [gentoo-user] /boot filesystem, SSDs, TRIM

2018-08-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The question should be if and why to use /boot at all on modern systems. Grub is able to boot from various system combinations. btrfs, lvm, mdraid, even encrypted disks (however, in the last case, it is not that trivial to install grub). So for me

Re: [gentoo-user] /boot filesystem, SSDs, TRIM

2018-08-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 01:58:19PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote > For a long time people recommended ext2 for /boot. The Gentoo wiki still > does. Is there any compelling reason to use ext2 for /boot (on a system > whose other filesystems are ext4) these days? AFAIK for systems that have > /boot on an

[gentoo-user] /boot filesystem, SSDs, TRIM

2018-08-22 Thread Adam Carter
For a long time people recommended ext2 for /boot. The Gentoo wiki still does. Is there any compelling reason to use ext2 for /boot (on a system whose other filesystems are ext4) these days? AFAIK for systems that have /boot on an SSD, ext4 makes more sense due to discard support, and for non-SSD

Re: [gentoo-user] No mouse on Lenovo T400

2018-08-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:34:34PM +0100, Mick wrote > Run 'usbdevices' on the other distro to see what driver it uses, > or perhaps diff the two kernel configs in case you missed something. Thanks. That got me going on the right track. I eventually traced it down to "Device Drivers ==>

Re: [gentoo-user] No mouse on Lenovo T400

2018-08-22 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:30:32 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > My "excellent adventure" continues. Having finally rebuilt python 3.6 > on the new install, I find no mouse either in X or in text mode (gpm). > Before anybody asks... > > 1) Yes I have OHCI and UHCI USB protocols selected. > 2) The

[gentoo-user] No mouse on Lenovo T400

2018-08-22 Thread Walter Dnes
My "excellent adventure" continues. Having finally rebuilt python 3.6 on the new install, I find no mouse either in X or in text mode (gpm). Before anybody asks... 1) Yes I have OHCI and UHCI USB protocols selected. 2) The mouse works fine when I boot another linux distro off a USB key. Any

Re: Aw: Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU eventually hangs my system

2018-08-22 Thread Daniel Salas Rodriguez
I have a similar problem with my machine. Ever since >=4.17.something I've had the mouse and keyboard stop working in X randomly, and usually reconnecting them fixes it, the glaring difference is my GPU is Nvidia. I noticed the system was not really hanging because one hang I tried doing a

Aw: Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU eventually hangs my system

2018-08-22 Thread cts . private
Thank you for the feedback. You have have a total hang but for mouse movements, is that correct? uname -r says: 4.9.76-gentoo-r1 Is that the kernel version? I wonder if I should try to get a newer kernel from gentoo... I wonder if anyone at gentoo could supply a maillist URL from the

Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU eventually hangs my system

2018-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 3:06 PM wrote: > > I finally got my kernel rebuilt with support for the AMDGPU. ... Then my > system started hanging. > I've had the same issues. On recent kernels like 4.17.17 it isn't too bad, but sometimes it will hang on boot or on shutdown. Hangs during running

[gentoo-user] AMDGPU eventually hangs my system

2018-08-22 Thread cts . private
Hi, I finally got my kernel rebuilt with support for the AMDGPU. Now my hp laptop can finally talk to the HDMI port and lighten the screen up to a readable. I really started to like it. Then my system started hanging. Actually, the very first time I brought up X with the new kernel, it also

[gentoo-user] libGL symlinks vs `eselect opengl`

2018-08-22 Thread Davyd McColl
The other day I installed Celestia for the entertainment of my son, who is delighted with anything stellar / planetary. Celestia wouldn't start up, and, long-story-short, I tracked down the issue to the symlinks: /usr/lib64/libGL.so /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 which ultimately point to

[gentoo-user] Slow emerge

2018-08-22 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi folks, recently, I searched for a reason why emerge --update is that slow. (And in my eyes, needless slow.) I found a thread[0] on gentoo forum where I found a really helpful hint. emerge --backtrack=0 ... Would do the same job in 99% of

Re: [gentoo-user] When a package is marked as stable or not?

2018-08-22 Thread Mick
On Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:24:35 BST Alarig Le Lay wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Thanks a lot for your explanation. It’s a bit clearer for me now :) On a practical level you can keyword the ~arch version of the package, or to carry on with your life as is at present add: --exclude

[gentoo-user] Re: chatty dhcpcd, or iproute2?

2018-08-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-08-22 10:12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Does everyone else also see low-level console output (looks like it > > may be from iproute2) when openrc runs dhcpcd? > > Do you have rc_verbose set in either /etc/rc.conf or /etc/conf.d? No: matica!18 ~$ fgrep verbose /etc/rc.conf /etc/conf.d/*

Re: [gentoo-user] When a package is marked as stable or not?

2018-08-22 Thread Alarig Le Lay
Hi Rich, Thanks a lot for your explanation. It’s a bit clearer for me now :) -- alarig

[gentoo-user] Re: Running 3rd party apps intended for Ubuntu/RedHat

2018-08-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-08-22, Gerrit Kühn wrote: > Some years ago I used a tool called ermine for something similar. Looks > like it still exists (although I don't know if it will be of any use for > you today): This is pretty off-putting: Pricing When you have decided what

[gentoo-user] Re: Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread nunojsilva
On 2018-08-22, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > I have a Gentoo machine, which has not been updated for a while. Quite > a long while, actually. > > Now I needed to install a package, and I did so. It went up, no > problem. Except that it relies on a newer version of openrc than > what's on the system. From

[gentoo-user] Re: Running 3rd party apps intended for Ubuntu/RedHat

2018-08-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-08-22, (Nuno Silva) wrote: > This is something I would like to do as well (grabbing all the required > libraries for a given binary). Unfortunately, so far I didn't have > enough time to look into it. But here's a link from my bookmarks, which > might (or not...) be useful to you: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] When a package is marked as stable or not?

2018-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:02 AM Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > I’m a little curious about the way a package is considered as stable or > ~arch. > Packages always start out in ~arch and sometimes become stable. A package version CAN be made stable if: 1. It has been in ~arch for 30 days (exceptions

[gentoo-user] When a package is marked as stable or not?

2018-08-22 Thread Alarig Le Lay
Hi, I’m a little curious about the way a package is considered as stable or ~arch. For exemple, app-office/libreoffice-bin is tagged stable but breaks updates on my system since weeks; but on the other hand net-misc/bird is ~arch but I never had major issues with hit (either running and building

Re: [gentoo-user] Running 3rd party apps intended for Ubuntu/RedHat

2018-08-22 Thread Gerrit Kühn
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:25:18 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote about [gentoo-user] Running 3rd party apps intended for Ubuntu/RedHat: > I've been thinking about trying to automate this by installing the app > on an Ubuntu or RedHat system and then running a bash script that uses > ldd et alia to

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 12:12, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Which version of tar do you have? > > This looks like a really old system and you can expect a long journey to > update it. Large amounts of patience, caffeine and man page reading will > be needed. I would suggest downloading the ebuild for

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:42:34 +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > > That's too much to try to do in one go, what do you get with just a > > basic system update? > > > > emerge -up @system > > $ emerge -up @system > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies...

[gentoo-user] Re: Running 3rd party apps intended for Ubuntu/RedHat

2018-08-22 Thread nunojsilva
On 2018-08-21, Grant Edwards wrote: > There are a handful of 3rd party, closed-source apps that I run on my > Gentoo systems. Often they're available for RedHat or Ubuntu, > sometimes for "generic" Linux. > > The apps for "generic" Linux usually run without too much trouble, > since they tend to

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Zoltán Kócsi
Neil, > That's too much to try to do in one go, what do you get with just a > basic system update? > > emerge -up @system $ emerge -up @system These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all !!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Corentin “Nado” Pazdera
August 22, 2018 11:16 AM, "Zoltán Kócsi" wrote: > Corentin, > >> What does emerge -vuDN --verbose-conflicts --with-bdeps=y world say? > > $ emerge -vuDN --verbose-conflicts --with-bdeps=y world > > !!! Invalid news item: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:15:54 +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > > What does emerge -vuDN --verbose-conflicts --with-bdeps=y world say? > > $ emerge -vuDN --verbose-conflicts --with-bdeps=y world snipped lots of output. That's too much to try to do in one go, what do you get with just a basic

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:24:43 +1000, Zoltán Kócsi wrote: > I have a Gentoo machine, which has not been updated for a while. Quite > a long while, actually. > > Now I needed to install a package, and I did so. It went up, no > problem. Except that it relies on a newer version of openrc than >

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Zoltán Kócsi
Corentin, > What does emerge -vuDN --verbose-conflicts --with-bdeps=y world say? $ emerge -vuDN --verbose-conflicts --with-bdeps=y world !!! Invalid news item: /usr/portage/metadata/news/2017-11-21-old-wine-versions-moving-to-overlay/2017-11-21-old-wine-versions-moving-to-overlay.en.txt !!!

Re: [gentoo-user] chatty dhcpcd, or iproute2?

2018-08-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 22:01:51 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Does everyone else also see low-level console output (looks like it may > be from iproute2) when openrc runs dhcpcd? I see that > /etc/init.d/dhcpcd already has a line > > command_args=-q > > so trying to stuff it somewhere won't help.

Re: [gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Corentin “Nado” Pazdera
August 22, 2018 10:25 AM, "Zoltán Kócsi" wrote: > I have a Gentoo machine, which has not been updated for a while. Quite > a long while, actually. > > Now I needed to install a package, and I did so. It went up, no > problem. Except that it relies on a newer version of openrc than > what's on

[gentoo-user] Update circle

2018-08-22 Thread Zoltán Kócsi
I have a Gentoo machine, which has not been updated for a while. Quite a long while, actually. Now I needed to install a package, and I did so. It went up, no problem. Except that it relies on a newer version of openrc than what's on the system. From here it's all downhill: emerge openrc: -