Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 4/11/20 4:13 PM, antlists wrote: Which was also a pain in the neck because it was single-threaded - if the ISP tried to send an incoming email at the same time the gateway tried to send, the gateway hung. Ew. I can't say as I'm surprised about that, given the nature of SMTP servers in

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread antlists
On 11/04/2020 21:33, Grant Taylor wrote: On 4/11/20 2:08 PM, antlists wrote: Okay, it was a long time ago, and it was MS-Mail (Exchange's predecessor, for those who can remember back that far), but I had an argument with my boss. He was well annoyed with our ISP for complying with RFC's

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 4/11/20 4:41 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 4/11/20 2:17 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> Exchange used to do all manner of stupid things, but now that Microsoft >> is running it themselves and making money from O365, they seem to have >> figured out how to make it send mail correctly. > > I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 02:41:35PM -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 4/11/20 2:17 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Nowadays they prefer to cripple Outlook with non-Exchange protocols, so > > that our users complain about not having shared calendars when we've had > > CalDAV integrated with IMAP for

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 4/11/20 2:17 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Exchange used to do all manner of stupid things, but now that Microsoft is running it themselves and making money from O365, they seem to have figured out how to make it send mail correctly. I've found that Exchange / IIS SMTP is fairly standards

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 4/11/20 2:08 PM, antlists wrote: Okay, it was a long time ago, and it was MS-Mail (Exchange's predecessor, for those who can remember back that far), but I had an argument with my boss. He was well annoyed with our ISP for complying with RFC's because they switched to ESMTP and MS-Mail

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 4/11/20 4:08 PM, antlists wrote: > > Okay, it was a long time ago, and it was MS-Mail (Exchange's > predecessor, for those who can remember back that far), but I had an > argument with my boss. He was well annoyed with our ISP for complying > with RFC's because they switched to ESMTP and

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2020 14:08, Ashley Dixon wrote: After my thankfully-brief experience with the likes of Microsoft and their Exchange program, I always question how much impact the content of an R.F.C. actually has on an implementation. :-) Okay, it was a long time ago, and it was MS-Mail (Exchange's

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternate Incoming Mail Server

2020-04-11 Thread antlists
On 07/04/2020 11:53, Ashley Dixon wrote: Grant's mail server, I assume, is configured with the highest security in mind, so I can see how a mail server with a dynamic I.P.\ could cause issues in some contexts. I just wish my I.S.P.\ offered_any_ sort of static I.P.\ package, but given that I

Re: [gentoo-user] ...recreating exactly the same applications on a new harddisc?

2020-04-11 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 01:38:01 CEST schrieb Michael: > On Monday, 6 April 2020 22:15:20 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 22:02:04 +0100, antlists wrote: > > > > This isn't strictly true, the ESP must be vfat, but you can still > > > > have an ext? /boot. > > > > > > This isn't

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to disable fuzzy-search in emerge?

2020-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:37:56 -0400, Jack wrote: > Even eix often finds things I think are irrelevant, but I know it's > searching on a regexp, so I'll often do "eix ^string$ if I know the > package and am just looking for the info about it. Use eix -e if you want an exact match. -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to disable fuzzy-search in emerge?

2020-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 17:00:08 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > I don't know why it didn't occur to me to check for a make.conf > variable instead of an environment variable or USE flag. Of course > now that I know that make.conf variable's name, I have found it in few > other places in the